Noctilucent Cloud season 2022

[Raindrops]

5 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

Still early days yet to kick off a new season thread

although the newest post from here caught my attention

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nlcaroundtheworld

Not NLC`s for me

 

Anyway with the high possibility of no AIM daisy`s to aid us in some kind of forecasting

I have been trying to find a Japanese/ Korean NCL forum site (see the reason in the above post)

I`ve only been searching Google, but to no avail

I don`t tweet -  so was wondering if peoples who do, can search 

If anything happens, you'll find it on spaceweather.com

SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids

WWW.SPACEWEATHER.COM

 

Edited May 11, 2023 by Raindrops

[Dreckly]

Kiwi Weather – Track, Capture & Release – Satellite Data

KIWIWEATHER.COM

 May help with forecasting

http://www.spaceweather.org/ISES/rwc/rwc_ko.html

Korean page with various links to different pages.

Still looking for a dedicated NLC site

[Dreckly]

Maybe more useful information here

http://www.iugonet.org/product/

[Dreckly]

Optical Mesosphere Thermosphere Imagers (OMTI)

STDB2.ISEE.NAGOYA-U.AC.JP

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Observed Data Distribution

 

 

[Raindrops]

Noctilucent clouds – IRF

WWW.IRF.SE

 

[Jamie M]

2 hours ago, Arnie Pie said:

Still early days yet to kick off a new season thread

although the newest post from here caught my attention

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nlcaroundtheworld

Not NLC`s for me

Anyway with the high possibility of no AIM daisy`s to aid us in some kind of forecasting

I have been trying to find a Japanese/ Korean NCL forum site (see the reason in the above post)

I`ve only been searching Google, but to no avail

I don`t tweet -  so was wondering if peoples who do, can search 

is a tweet search even a thing

I don't have a Japanese or Korean NLC forum site but I do have the German NLC forum.

Leuchtende Nachtwolken (NLC) - AKM e.V. Forum

FORUM.METEOROS.DE

 

[Arnie Pie]

Thanks for all the replies

I`m looking through the relevant information as we type

I`m trying to find the Japanese site`s because if there spotted from there, then 2 day`s later the same clouds would be located over the UK axis

hope that makes sense 

Edited May 11, 2023 by Arnie Pie

[mushymanrob]

12 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

Thanks for all the replies

I`m looking through the relevant information as we type

I`m trying to find the Japanese site`s because if there spotted from there, then 2 day`s later the same clouds would be located over the UK axis

hope that makes sense 

we will leave it to you to start this years thread... if i may speak for us all.. lol..

[Arnie Pie]

The closest i`ve come to finding out anything out on Google is this article

Dreamily glowing noctilucent clouds provide a clue to elucidate the mechanism of global warming | Meiji.net:Meiji University

ENGLISH-MEIJI.NET

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Are you familiar with the phenomenon of noctilucent clouds? It refers to a type of cloud formation that exists at an altitude of approximately 85 km i ...

to which they do not seem to be  a big deal in Japan

If no other relevant information can be found

then I intend to send an e-mail to prof SUZUKI Hidehiko

apparently Brummie and Japanese are a similar language

[Arnie Pie]

3 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

we will leave it to you to start this years thread

Yes Bob just started over-thinking the subject

1 minute ago, Raindrops said:

Don't forget Russia.

with my ethics I would prefer to

[mushymanrob]

37 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

 

with my ethics I would prefer to

yes... i felt dirty viewing their cams last summer..

[Arnie Pie]

7 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

yes... i felt dirty viewing their cams last summer..

Maybe us old farts have DNA memories of a similar dictator

[Dreckly]

Links to NLC pages etc, may be useful

NLC Links

WWW.MCEWAN.CO.UK

 

[Dreckly]

Out of interest there are some good Japanese and Korean cameras on Webcam Taxi, they always seem to have good selection of cameras.

https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/

[Iceman2606]

OSWIN radar is back!

OSWIN - Mesosphäre - Forschung - Leibniz-Institut für Atmosphärenphysik, Kühlungsborn

WWW.IAP-KBORN.DE

[Sprites]

In the Glendale Aurora I've just clicked the NLC reports button by mistake , not sure how to remove it. 

[Jamie M]

19 minutes ago, Sprites said:

In the Glendale Aurora I've just clicked the NLC reports button by mistake , not sure how to remove it. 

Just have to click on another option and it'll go  

[Arnie Pie]

A little more overthinking and searching on the subject of how to forecast Noctilucent clouds without the use of the Aim satellite daisy

Using the fact that the clouds trans-navigate the Artic circle every 5 days in a clockwise direction, which equates to 72° Longitude every day

So we could expect to see NCL`s over the UK axis( prime meridian),
 if they are seen the night before at a longitude of 72°E and 2 nights before at a longitude of 144°E,
3 nights before at a longitude of 144°W,
4 nights before at a longitude of 72°W

Using all of the links which you supplied i have found a few North facing web cams, on or around these Longitudes, which may help us.
My idea about a Japanese cams did not come to fruition
None of the cams on the North island of Japan were pointing Northwards

So there are a couple of webcams in Russia (which are at a more favourable Latitude than Japan to view NCL`s)

1 Day out at 72°E
camera from starvisor ru
Link; https://starvisor.ru/nur/  which is located at 76°E

2 days out at 144°E
Camera from Geocam.ru
link; https://www.geocam.ru/en/online/lensk-webcam/ at 115°E
or
https://www.geocam.ru/en/online/kamchatka-volcanoes/  at 158°E
( still looking for one in between these camera`s)

3 days out at 144°W
Camera from explore.org
link; https://explore.org/livecams/zen-den/aurora-cam  at 147°W

4 days out at 72°W
camera from metroblue.com
link; https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/quebec_canada_6325494
or
https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/quebec_canada_6325494  both at 71°W

I am sure that we will be using the local European webcams for 'Now' forecasting, however it`s still nice to have a couple of days notice of any events
feel free to add to any webcams on these longitudes.

I hope this image below helps explain

 

[mushymanrob]

15 hours ago, Arnie Pie said:

A little more overthinking and searching on the subject of how to forecast Noctilucent clouds without the use of the Aim satellite daisy

Using the fact that the clouds trans-navigate the Artic circle every 5 days in a clockwise direction, which equates to 72° Longitude every day

So we could expect to see NCL`s over the UK axis( prime meridian),
 if they are seen the night before at a longitude of 72°E and 2 nights before at a longitude of 144°E,
3 nights before at a longitude of 144°W,
4 nights before at a longitude of 72°W

Using all of the links which you supplied i have found a few North facing web cams, on or around these Longitudes, which may help us.
My idea about a Japanese cams did not come to fruition
None of the cams on the North island of Japan were pointing Northwards

So there are a couple of webcams in Russia (which are at a more favourable Latitude than Japan to view NCL`s)

1 Day out at 72°E
camera from starvisor ru
Link; https://starvisor.ru/nur/  which is located at 76°E

2 days out at 144°E
Camera from Geocam.ru
link; https://www.geocam.ru/en/online/lensk-webcam/ at 115°E
or
https://www.geocam.ru/en/online/kamchatka-volcanoes/  at 158°E
( still looking for one in between these camera`s)

3 days out at 144°W
Camera from explore.org
link; https://explore.org/livecams/zen-den/aurora-cam  at 147°W

4 days out at 72°W
camera from metroblue.com
link; https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/quebec_canada_6325494
or
https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/quebec_canada_6325494  both at 71°W

I am sure that we will be using the local European webcams for 'Now' forecasting, however it`s still nice to have a couple of days notice of any events
feel free to add to any webcams on these longitudes.

I hope this image below helps explain

 

excellent piece of research arnie
ive been viewing the russian cams over the last few nights, they are beginning to look tastey!... no nlcs yet, but a bright light band which with a camera might just reveal something?.. 

im kicking off TAWs season on Monday... in preparation.

 

[Arnie Pie]

Just to clarify one of the links in my earlier post.

The 4 day out from Quebec seems to be confusing and does not take you diectly to the cam
if you go to the site via the link, click on any cam link
when the page comes up there are a list of other cams at the bottom of the page where the relavent cams can be found

The Two cams are
Neuville › North
Aéroport › North-West: JeanLesageIntl

These are not live but updated images

[Jamie M]

27 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

Just to clarify one of the links in my earlier post.

The 4 day out from Quebec seems to be confusing and does not take you diectly to the cam
if you go to the site via the link, click on any cam link
when the page comes up there are a list of other cams at the bottom of the page where the relavent cams can be found

The Two cams are
Neuville › North
Aéroport › North-West: JeanLesageIntl

These are not live but updated images

Will add em to the map I created last year.

MAARSY spewed out a couple of interesting echos at 85 km so a good sign things will be starting soon

[Arnie Pie]

7 hours ago, mushymanrob said:

excellent piece of research arnie
ive been viewing the russian cams over the last few nights, they are beginning to look tastey!... no nlcs yet, but a bright light band which with a camera might just reveal something?.. 

im kicking off TAWs season on Monday... in preparation.

They have been sighted towards the end of May in recent years, so were close

I expect that the first we will know is via social media, although I'm finding myself beginning to have a cheeky look at the webcams : Just in case

3 hours ago, Jamie M said:

Will add em to the map I created last year.

MAARSY spewed out a couple of interesting echos at 85 km so a good sign things will be starting soon

Cheers Jamie

Looks like the ingredient are starting to collect in the Mesosphere

[mushymanrob]

15 hours ago, Arnie Pie said:

They have been sighted towards the end of May in recent years, so were close

I expect that the first we will know is via social media, although I'm finding myself beginning to have a cheeky look at the webcams : Just in case

Cheers Jamie

Looks like the ingredient are starting to collect in the Mesosphere

i seem to remember someone saying the earliest in the uk was may 21st.... i dont know if this is an accurate memory or where they were seen... russian cams were cloudy last night. ill not bother with flensburg until they have been sighted.

[Jamie M]

 

[Arnie Pie]

maybe just maybe from Russia

i recognize the White balance to be set @tungsten

 

Edited May 19, 2023 by Arnie Pie