Moans, ramps and banter

[*Stormforce~beka*]

 East Lancs Rain WOW! That's jsut the worst!!!

[cheeky_monkey]

here is everyone watching the models desperate for snow..there was me yesterday watching the radar desperate for the forecast snow to miss ..i lost out in the end and got dumped on late yesterday and overnight 

Edited February 5 by cheeky_monkey

[raz.org.rain]

BBC Weather says "yellow warning for snow" on Thursday and Friday, despite forecasting it'll rain on both days. Google says the best we can hope for is rain with some sleet, ah the joys of winter... although I have to say, with a few weeks to go before spring, I've not had to "eat my hat" as someone so nicely put it back in November.

[Methuselah]

 raz.org.rain My newspaper has snow at 8-9C on Saturday. I guess warm snow is better than cold rain, eh? 

[lassie23]

I think this up-and-coming one-day cool spell will rival the great sleet event of 1998 when sleet fell for a full 40 minutes. I can just imagine the headlines in the papers this coming weekend 

[raz.org.rain]

 lassie23 but but it's the end of February that was always the favourite to deliver!!

 Methuselah a few more degrees and it may as well be hailstones, at least hail hangs around on the ground for longer.

[lassie23]

 raz.org.rain is that Feb 2025 lol

[In Absence of True Seasons]

Genuinely vile spell of weather coming up. Brace yourselves folks...

The theme of 2023 continues for now. Cloudy, windy and wet.

Is this something to do with El Nino? Don't think I've seen a spell of weather like this. Because since July it's been these type of conditions predominantly, with brief interludes here and there (September warm and dry spell, and then January cold and dry spell just gone). 

[raz.org.rain]

 In Absence of True Seasons hence why I despair at any suggestions of the upcoming spring and summer being the same. This is not the weather we'd want at any time of year, nevermind spring and summer.

[Robbie Coldrain]

Looks like even the cold rains events have been downgraded to mild rain events for the south. Stay safe people! 

[raz.org.rain]

It seems there's some disagreement among the models, with the GFS going off on a mild tangent. Thing is, isn't the GFS usually correct when it does that?

[Methuselah]

I think today's MAD thread treatises can be summarised thus:

North a bit; south a bit; west a bit; east a bit. Bernie, the bolt: 

[Metwatch]

Jealous of south east France and eastern Spain the last few days, they see a frost in the morning and maybe fog in the valleys, then by the afternoon warms up to the high teens with a few places reaching the low 20s away from the inversion further west, superb diurnal ranges. I think the odd spot touched 24-25C.

Meanwhile here it's cloudy, dull and almost the same temperature night vs day recently. Only plus is it's been drier, but even so, the rain (even cold rain or sleet on Thursday) is making a comeback in the next few days. The most boring climate and day to day weather you can get in central England but at least it's not impactful

1 hour ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:

Is this something to do with El Nino?

Not enough correlelation to say for sure but I think ENSO neutral years, or the years that are longest in neutral are usually drier, stronger El Nino or La Nina events will make it wetter for northern Europe, but again it's rather ambiguous. I think years that start with strong Nino but weaken or turn Nina, don't seem to be as wet looking through the rainfall data and then the ONI so that could be the saving grace.

You can pick out any trends from these, yearly average EWP is like 970mm. ENSO data starts from 50s.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/data/seasonal/HadEWP_seasonal_totals.txt

https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php

 

Edited February 5 by Metwatch

[raz.org.rain]

 Metwatch I think some spots managed to reach 27° too. It reminds me of an early spring heatwave here... hot mid-20s during the day, chilly and cold at night.

[ANYWEATHER]

If you want snow ,go to another country ,looks like the snow threat is going Tit's up again....

[East Lancs Rain]

2 hours ago, *Stormforce~beka* said:

WOW! That's jsut the worst!!!

 

8 hours ago, Alderc 2.0 said:

hands down the worst weather is cold rain just a few degrees above freezing. Plain grim. 

What about freezing rain? That stuff turns the roads and pavements into an ice rink.

[*Stormforce~beka*]

 East Lancs Rain Never had that here so don't know

[raz.org.rain]

 ANYWEATHER I was told I would be "better off going to Spain" for wanting actual summer weather in summer! Not something I could take seriously from someone chasing an Arctic style deep freeze when tickets to Norway were so cheap.

[HurricaneSteve]

The Met Office App, seems to favour a heck lot of sleet or rain symbols at the moment

Better head for the hills, if you want the white stuff

[East Lancs Rain]

 *Stormforce~beka*

 

I remember one morning having it and as soon as I walked out of the front gate and I fell over on my backside! Very hazardous and dangerous weather. Thankfully it rarely happens in this country.

[Wingman Blue]

I don’t bother with the models anymore, they seem to be too hit and miss.

As of this morning the changing Jetstream is again slightly forward, now early Thursday with main action at the weekend.

Back to Azores feed by Tuesday.

I expect a Nor’Nor’Westerly Friday-Saturday.

 

we shall see.

Edited February 5 by Wingman Blue
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[Robbie Coldrain]

You have to admit it's rather disconcerting when the chances of a nuclear winter are higher in the UK than a natural one!   

[Wingman Blue]

 Robbie Coldrain

Maybe you need to move to an elevated rural location?  We’ve had this winter, amongst the rain and wind, at least half a dozen days where it barely got much above freezing in the sun, with the shaded pond frozen for nearly a week!

[markyo]

15 minutes ago, Wingman Blue said:

Maybe you need to move to an elevated rural location?  We’ve had this winter, amongst the rain and wind, at least half a dozen days where it barely got much above freezing in the sun, with the shaded pond frozen for nearly a week!

Again that doesn't make a Winter of any kind.Winter is a 90 day period, not 8 or 10. Just the same as we are remined in the Summer months over and over and  over again that a month doesn't make a summer

[lassie23]

I am currently standing on a termite mound, hopefully that gives me some elevation to see a snowflake