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Model output discussion - here comes the beast!
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
T144 is fine watch that pool of -28c air ( approx 488 dam ) - still has a nice wave with it! - its trapped & has nowhere to go - -
Model output discussion - here comes the beast!
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The UKMO had the -24c isotherm making a quick beeline SE towards the UK for 168 in the form of an open wave - Also UKMO 144 - you would expect the Scandi high to seesaw a little into 168 - the west 'end' lifting somewhat & the eastern end 'dropping' by the same degree- The reverse happens over Europe where the net effect forces cold west wards - That cold pool is travelling at such a pace ( driven by the high ) that if the flow remains clean ahead of the wave - The trajectory would bring it in towards the UK, slightly moderated -18/-20c- Let see how close it gets on the ECM & JMA.... S -
Model output discussion - here comes the beast!
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
This will not be a dry easterly with scattered snow showers as per ukmo 120-144 - there will be non stop snow in the East & SE , NE up to about Newcastle & this will push across England & become more broken / spread - so yes if you live in the west It wont be quite as good to start with. As mentioned now by me / Nick L etc etc this is lake effect snow. 1 day of perfect allignment will bring ~20-40 cms of snow in the best areas - up to 10 on average- The flow looks to be sustained 2-4 day poss longer.... do the maths.... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
On the tarmac @Gatwick- ECM looks poorly resolved @120 over scandi- out of kilter with GFS / UKMO blend- but post day 5 still gets there The wave that the models have at about 168/192 coming west through Europe is perfect timing to reinforce the cold -- Also bringing heavy snow from the east- something that never happens these days- If any of these model land them the snow totals for the UK will be epic s -
SE and East Anglia general weather discussion 11/02/2018 onwards
SMU replied to Captain Shortwave's topic in Regional
If everything stays the same Expect the amber warnings up Thurs ish - Then poss red sat / sun - -
SE and East Anglia general weather discussion 11/02/2018 onwards
SMU replied to Captain Shortwave's topic in Regional
Morning All Off on hols now- will be dropping in though - As of today 04:30z the best & coldest overnight runs ever modelled since the dawn of the internet with the best highlighted below... S -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
lol - High res GEM @Retron @Nick L @TEITS @bluearmy @lorenzo @nick sussex Looking at the GEM anomaly chart@850 NW france / SE UK has biggest -VE in the NH @204 at -16 to -20c... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
If you was to mock up the snowiest Easterly you could imagine then the GEM 00z has saved you the job - feet of snow in England on that run.. -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Stay on the GEM lol sub -28 into scandi 180 -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Cold due Sun AM - therefor banked Thurs 12z for 100% security but Weds 12s will still be a strong signal 80-90% if no change- -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yep the mean now out to 240 down to -8c so when you see the ENS graph its going to be sub -8c for at least 6 days etc etc The upgrades are extending well into the 200s now with the formidable Greenland block.... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
GFS maxes for London next week Sun 0c Mon -1c Tues -3c Weds -3c. !!!! Rural areas probs about 1-2 less tues / weds ( Stanstead was -8c on 12 jan 1987 in -20c air ) So -5 seems to be the landing zone... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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SE and East Anglia general weather discussion 11/02/2018 onwards
SMU replied to Captain Shortwave's topic in Regional
The nose of the Eastery at just 78 hr now The chris fawkes tweet just underpinning what we already new... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
nice Also the operational 1 day behind the mean for -10c line! ignore that op slower to bring in the cold ! -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Model doesnt know convection rates. Lake effect snow. -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
if ECM lands then 40-50cm widely over Kent 70-80 over the downs- snow widespread elsewhere East facing coasts - but streamers penetrating way inland also Ireland hit 30cm in an easterly the other year - S -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
watching the pool of -28c air SE Scandi @168 - The wave associated with that is heading SE... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ECM is better but not quite there with the flow allignment over scandi @96- but at least ita on the move ! -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
SMU replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Use meteociel GFS ensemble click on tabeaux then click the UK map to east kent shows you all the ENS temps the ascendent