Froze were the Days

Cause the good ol' MetO 30 dayer forecast says from 'mid-month' (as if they've been that accurate this late Autumn/Winter).

Injury time winner...will lightning strike twice if we're struggling come February? I doubt it.

The winter of the 3 P's ..Potential, Patience and Pee'd off Ecm showed some potential yesterday and numerous times post day 10 earlier this month ...have we got anywhere?...answer no. Makes me smirk now the date 15th January is etched in everybody's heads, I wonder how realistically it will be that we'll get cold conditions around that date?

Seriously nothing now I'd like to see more than to see that Atlantic absolutely do one...GFS now spewing out Xmas dinner left overs of chewed sprouts and regurgitated turkey. The model obviously doesn't believe in a season for all men!

To be honest watching the GFS currently is really starting to bore me - next!

and the Azores high STILL there although displaced somewhat, so I'm not seeing any great changes.

Now if we can get anywhere near that 240z chart then some fun and games could start - a big 'if' though...

What amuses me a while back a few posters were saying why are the GFS stat charts being shown always at 384 h?...and the general response was if showing at range that you could count it down like clockwork whether displacement or split, certainly not the case with this GFS episode!

I know this comes up a lot at this time of year...I'd give the model watching a break (I know it's addictive at this time of year) - have a few beers and enjoy Xmas and come back in a couple of days, the Strat update by then should be a bit clearer but we might see a difference in some NWP outputs?

I just hope we don't have to endure weeks of the limpet high close to the UK or just to the south of us and then see a pattern change back to the Atlantic rather than colder conditions...if so many global models and forecasts for January onwards will be bust!

'So poor thing, after looking after the elderly all day, she has to come home and look after this 'ole Raspberry, bless her!! Colette is ten years younger than me and in our wedding photo, it looks more like I should be her Father, giving her away'!! - hahahhaha! - that made me chuckle Tom, sorry to hear you've been having your own health problems and hope all is okay and looks like your a happy and content man now! Shotski - totally agree, the model output is dire currently and it's only the SSW that's keeping hopes up. See Mr Murr on the strat thread is positive with timings/split etc. (just hope he's more accurate than with some of his LRF's (no slant intended as he's a fairly intelligent fellow).

My father had an aneurysm which ruptured and more or less died in my arms, paramedics and ambulance were here in hasty time but by the time he was off to hospital his time was up. We discussed it but opted not to have an op 2 years ago due to his age (82 at the time) and his other background ailments and thought it would have been touch and go if he made it through. Sorry Tom to hear the similarities with you...is that your current wife in your avatar? I might be making the odd post but wish everybody a happy Xmas and a happy snowy healthy New Year!...well healthy New Year anyway I was pushing it a bit far!... On another note isn't this weather just dire

Yes I wondered that as well...maybe it's an American thing!

another woeful cloudy damp mild and miserable day to add to the number we've had since November...

Utterly miserable weather! compounded by losing my father yesterday in the early hours...

Split?...don't see one but I do see an old man playing basketball.

Been a pretty poor December so far, 2 slight ground frosts and the coldest day had a max of 5.1c (which is nothing to write home about)...surely January has to be better than this damp squib of a month and get me my first air frost of the season? (talk about lowering the bar).

Some similarities with Mid-Jan or so 91' there - keep an eye for pressure to develop further north or north east in a few days time?

Largely cloudy I should think, maybe some frost towards the north east as posted by Karlos a page back...a lot of Tm air getting into the mix unfortunately.

Some really boring model output currently (other than yesterdays gfs 12z which now looks like a complete rogue run)...Xmas day looks cloudy and quiet which looks like being about as excitable as this December, as for today been outside in my sleeveless top and didn't even feel cold despite the breeze. Well Santa so far ain't bringin' any Xmas cheer meteorology wise other than the dangled carrot that is a possible SSW and it's effects into the New Year!

The position of the high allows to much Tm air in the mix so probably would be largely cloudy and has looked that way for the last day or so...

1 run don't get to over excited...the predictions were for model mayhem once we get into the range of the SSW down welling (post Xmas) - so early mayhem perhaps?

Not sure either 76' or 78' was that cold or snowy, post 78 before New Year we all know about but Xmas Eve to Boxing Day I don't think so...

'further into January'...hmmmmm, it will be February next (in the updates towards the New Year)

Opened this thread up just in time...some of the worst FI output for a few months now showing just as we enter winter proper with that dreaded SW/NE jet revving up, you couldn't make it up! (I swear I say something like this practically every winter).