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  1. 4 minutes ago, Gustywind said:

    In terms of temperatures the Feb 05 spell which took place in the last week of Feb is the closest comparison I can think of. 

    If temps are same as back then, some will be disappointed. Here in Birmingham we averaged temps of 4-5c in sunshine on the coldest days (when 850s were circa -10), climbing to 6c when 850s rose back up to -6 or so towards the end of the week.

    Those temps were in full sunshine I should add. It was quite a snowy week but snow struggled to settle in daytime hours due to the high temps and sunshine, so accumulations only took place at night. 

    That was a milder winter than this one though and Europe had been very mild in the run up.

    Fed 05 gave me over a foot of snow, but yes the temps where a little higher than one would expect, this was in part due to some warm air getting mixed in the flow from the south east.

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    The issue was the surface flow rather than the uppers.

     

  2. 15 minutes ago, trickydicky said:

    I haven't got my head around the new BBC TV graphics fully but they seemed to show a large area of snow in the area this evening from the incoming front. Their app however is having absolutely none of it. What's the Bobby Moore?

    All the apps have reduced the snow risk but the TV forecast this morning had a large area of snow overnight,

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  3. 18 minutes ago, Hocus Pocus said:

    That’s exactly what I’m referring to by dumbing down for the masses. If it’s frosty and icy outside no amount of warnings will stop people from having accidents, back in the day warnings were only issued when bad weather was imminent not that it may or may not happen.

    Except when Joe B stated his journey there was no ice, but a few miles up the road there was and he had an accident that put pressure on the NHS.

  4. 1 hour ago, The Wolf said:

    Nothing here. Another non event it seems.

     

    1 hour ago, BleakMidwinter said:

    Just starting to try to snow here with very small powder coming down at a sharp angle from NW. Not settling on anything, and only intermittent but radar looks promising...

    These are two post in the Midlands thread...... From non event to snow actually falling.

    Both presumably in the warning zone..... Once again warnings are for a risk of a certain hazard not a guarantee. 

    Showers do not equate to 100% snowfall for everyone.

    Even frontal activity can vary from location to location.

  5. 9 minutes ago, Hocus Pocus said:

    I come from a generation that didn’t have all this nonsense thrusted upon them and yet somehow we still managed to get on with it. I understand the warnings system but there really is no need for it but then we live in a safe space sort of world these days.?

    And people died..... i think its your generation that demanded the changes we now see. 

  6. Just now, SP1986 said:

    I'm not talking about me.. I'm talking about the general wider public who are already very sceptical of weather forecasting. How many people do you hear say "they can't forecast the weather for tomorrow never mind a week" . The public attitude to weather forecasting is already one of little faith. This doesn't help.

    How many people talk about yellow warnings?  

    The warning are not only for the public but for local authorities etc

  7. Just now, SP1986 said:

    No but what happens when people are fed too many warnings for thing that have always been trivial.. then a big event comes and public complacency sets in.. because they'll say.. not another one.. nothing happened last time so we'll just ignore it. 

    When something big comes along the warning will not be yellow and the news will lead with it.

    Do you think anyone reads those things anyway, away from forums like these and maybe hobbyist like fell walkers and other outdoor activities? 

  8. 14 minutes ago, chris78 said:

    But most of the recent warnings are be aware yellow warning, its only us snow nuts that read that as a promise of snow, for instance todays warning states a medium likelyhood, so when people say they got it wrong, they didnt.     When they go orange and red and still nothing happens maybe they have a case to answer, but its not their fault if people expect an event that they have said only has a medium chance of occurring.

    Indeed ad if anyone wants to look at the warning Matrix its only in the 2nd category of likely to happen.  

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