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19°C and sunny.I've dodged all the showers, not sure how long that will last?! And, it is windier today than yesterday.
Yeah those kind of temps before noon are already making a complete mockery of all those moaning gits on here saying how chilly/wet it will be, I think alot of places will miss any showers this week and it will be rather pleasant, summers aren't cold in the UK, September onwards is when we will see a proper atlantic cool, wet and windy spell.
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Doubt a meteorologist would make that claim TBH.
May and September belong to the 'Extended Summer'
Mays average temps aren't much higher than October so I definitely wouldn't call that extended summer as snow isn't unheard of in the north just like I wouldn't call November part of the extended winter as its still too mild, September you maybe right but the long nights and potentially foggy mornings don't feel like summer to me more like early autumn.
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LOL, where's all your cold windy weather Costa, felt as sultry as ever last few nights, hope you don't mention cold windy weather again as we won't be getting any with all the warm air dominating our latitude.
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After mid August the chance of 30C+ in the midlands is drastically reduced, even in high summer we struggle to manage it, seems the SE London especially has its own climate compared to the rest of the UK, September maybe a summer month in the south but in central england it's definitely not a summer month to me because the days are too short especially late month which is the same day length as mid to late March and nobody in their right mind would call that summer, nights are noticeably cooler in September in the midlands, can get very cold in low lying valleys area's and days don't have that intensity of warmth that July does.
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Not really conor, 23C is widespread, you do know the average max is around 22C for central/southern england in late July so hardly much above average today.
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no hot weather on models good!
but I do feel a bit like the Gaz1985 of summer, but I'm not on to wind heat lovers up, can understand people liking summer, most I know do
According to Stodge's scale we haven't had any hot weather this summer at all
Morning all
Before I look at the models, one of the problems on this Forum is the use of subjective terminology such that one man's "Hot" is another man's "Warm" and throwing terms like that around without context often causes misunderstandings.
So, for me the following scale applies:
20-25c: Average to Warm
25-30c: Warm to Very Warm
30-35c: Very Warm to Hot
35-40c: Hot to Exceptionally Hot
40c+: Which way is the fridge ?
Back to the output and a confused and confusing picture this morning as the established pattern shifts around so let's see what the new month brings:
http://modeles.meteo...gfs-0-132.png?0
GFS 00Z Operational for next Friday afternoon and a very shallow LP over the country so a likelihood for downpours but still warm enough. The Azores HP is in full retreat.
http://www.meteociel...1-144.GIF?27-12
ECM 00Z Operational at a similar time. Not good for sun and heat fans to be honest but storm fans could do well from that.
http://modeles.meteo...em-0-132.png?00
GEM 00Z - different again, winding up quite a little storm to the SW which would bring a lot of rain and possibly even gales,
http://www.meteociel...44-21.GIF?27-07
UKMO - closest to ECM at that time.
All in all, looking unsettled - not cool in the south but with rain or showers never too far away. Oddly enough, I've seen comments that August can be a very wet month.
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LOL, some very dodgy temperature recordings in here, 28C was the highest today in the west/north midlands, officially 30C hasn't been reached in this spell for us.
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Maxed out at 27.4c here making it the warmest day of the year thus far, luckily a bit more of a breeze than yesterday & the weekend not looking as bad/quick breaking down as it did yesterday thankgoodness!
LOL, good old telford even NW Scotland records higher max's
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Alot of people are looking forward to some cooler fresher but still warm weather, nobody is hardly going to suffer with daytime temps of 22C/23C.
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Haven't noticed it at all in the evening but in the morning I definitely noticed it in the past week, 4 weeks ago around the solstice it's light just after 4 am its now still pretty dark just after 4 am.
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Another warm one, autumn is just becoming an extension of summer nowadays, first half anyway.
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Temps though still very warm look like taking a dip in the coming week from current high levels with more pleasant humidity especially at night, don't think we're in for an August 1995 repeat, the high looks like establishing itself to our NE we need it to our SE to drag the proper hot air (>15C 850 hPa) our way.
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Well Conor you don't really expect perfect sunshine living in the west midlands all summer long do you, I think we've done brilliantly for sunny weekend's since May, the only really wet day I can remember i think was June 4th when it was cold and wet all day long, just 11C max in the Solihull area, apart from that since March its been very dry indeed, exceptionally so and almost sunny all the time since May, you really don't have much to complain about if you ask me.
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I have to say, we really are thundering through 2014 extremely quickly. We are already approaching mid-Summer (not the festival of Midsummer, but the middle day of meteorlogical Summer) and then we enter the worst season of all.
To summarise the almost-first half of Summer 2014, I have to say it's been fairly uneventful but pleasant, but that's what Summer should genuinely be. June overall was decently warm and sunny, at least for my area and the first week of July, bar Friday, has been very nice indeed. As I've said before, it doesn't need to be 30C with wall to wall sunshine to make me happy, though I would certainly like that! I'm perfectly happy with low-to-mid twenties with decent sunny breaks - enough so that it actually feels summery. Cold Atlantic drizzle is not good for anything and is depressing.
So overall, not a bad first half to Summer, what does the second half hold?
Isn't that Winter Scott
Cold Atlantic drizzle, hopefully. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
You will be feeling warm and fuzzy but not from any cold atlantic drizzle that's for sure.
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Yes Tony27 is right, we don't need 30C, even modest temps of 22C to 25C in summer feel scorching if you're out and about in very strong sunshine, was out in rural areas today and got attacked by swarms of large flies, not sure how people find the attraction in that and also overgrown footpaths so you cant go walking unless you like getting stung, pretty horrid out there in the countryside to be honest, just want cold dry conditions with no bleedin flooding in winter, only good thing about this time of year is it's dry.
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whilst i broadly agree with you, the gfs 06z is bonkers! it has no support especially from its own anomaly chart which suggests high pressure over us, not retrogressing northwestwards.now im not saying that what the 06z depicts cannot happen, but its on its own with no support and unless any other model or run supports it, it should be read, but put on the shelf of 'improbability'.
That is not true, there are some runs on the GFS 06Z ensembles that support GFS 06Z OP in a weeks time, I certainly wouldn't be so dismissive over such a scenario occurring especially as GEM/ECM were toying with that idea just a few days ago, with the temperamental state the models have been in lately I wouldn't be writing it off, probably wouldn't pull that much northwestwards in actual reality but still not sinking to our SE where most want it, a breakdown will come eventually, weeks on end of HP aren't common in the UK.
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Yes a dreadful forecast by the BBC, I thought today wouldn't bring much rain just lots of cloud around, I feel the plume will bring similar weather, cloudy and very humid but not much in the way of exciting thunderstorms, not for us in the midlands anyway, SE'ers might be more lucky.
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Already looking forward to the Autumn 2014 thread ,,,,, if the past week is what's on offer this summer it can bugger off, mild, stagnant and cloudy is no good to anyone, at least autumn offers some interesting contrasts.
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Another day of grey, damp skies and a sweltering 13C max here. Absolutely horrendous. At least we're not the only ones suffering, much of NW Europe is just as crap. I do hope we will get some warm, sunny days to balance this rubbish out.
Yes and today brought more of the same but even cooler feeling, really dark now, incredible for just past 6 pm in late May, this weeks weather really makes a mockery of posts like this from last week,
There will be some rain around at times but in any sunnier periods it should feel quite warmIt's felt anything but warm this week.
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Just shows you how useless GFS 2M temp charts are for a few days out, was going to be 16C/17C today just a few days ago but now GFS is saying 12C which is correct, 12C in very late May is pathetic for a mild easterly, arctic northerlies deliver higher temps, looks like more easterly crap later next week on GFS 12Z just more humid and heavier rain, sick of easterlies to be honest.
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Looks very black over towards Coventry, think I heard a clap of thunder, not sure though might just be my air con unit
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Disappointing day, no storms anywhere near forecasted and now no yellow warnings for the west midlands, charts look good for activity though not sure if its of the stormy kind and just wet overcast days, really need some rain now the beautiful Warwickshire countryside is turning into a dust bowl.
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A summer where people don't call temperatures of 22C to 24C scorching would be nice
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Yes this year and most of last year were dreadful for snowfall, still think though that Januaries and Februaries zonal weather was colder than you usually get as it never felt that mild with more PM air than TM air you usually get in zonal weather, December did feel very mild at times unlike Jan/Feb though, whats remarkable to me though was the mildness of this Spring, it's felt incredibly humid at times and the past week was hell to sleep at night, last night was so much better, Jan/Feb felt much colder than this spring that's for sure.
Model Banter, Moans and Ramps Spring/Summer 2014
in Forecast Model Discussion
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I guess June/July don't count then, pretty significant if you ask me for consistent warmth, never known a summer like it for lack of fresh weather even 76/95 had some fresher nights unlike this one until this week.
Doesn't matter what the rest of August brings to most people this summer has been great.