when will the rain stop?

[Stu_London]

Mr D

Is there still several mm to be added on as Hadley is running higher?

[Summer of 95]

So August now needs less than 100mm to take the May-Aug record: if the forecasts are right for the next few days it'll probably only need 75mm at most. To see 2007 in the top 20 wettest May-Augs whilst still in July is a really damning indictment of this so-called "summer".

As for the wettest summers; it seems to be within one depression of 1980 (288mm) and 1985 (293mm) and 2004 (290.4mm); and seemingly it's now beaten 1992 (262.3mm)- so it's almost certain to be the wettest of my lifetime (and of anybody else around my age's).

[Weather-history]

Mr D

Is there still several mm to be added on as Hadley is running higher?

I suspect so.

Another title 2007 could claim is the wettest January-July period on record.

Wettest summers on record for England and Wales

409.7 1912

409.2 1879

396.3 1829

370.8 1860

362.2 1768

355.9 1828

351.2 1839

347.3 1775

345.7 1817

344.3 1848

337.8 1782

337.0 1852

336.8 1927

331.1 1956

329.1 1797

324.1 1799

321.1 1830

318.4 1931

316.8 1888

316.2 1834

314.8 1792

311.6 1816

309.5 1958

309.5 1903

306.7 1954

303.7 1872

303.0 1875

302.9 1917

302.8 1882

297.7 1946

295.6 1789

293.9 1776

293.5 1784

293.0 1985

290.9 1877

290.7 1777

290.4 2004

289.3 1853

288.0 1980

287.9 1881

287.8 1891

284.6 1997

284.1 1924

283.0 1960

279.4 1779

278.9 1880

278.5 1769

274.0 1968

273.8 1966

272.6 1950

271.6 1845

271.6 2007

Edited July 27, 2007 by Mr_Data

[Mark Bayley]

How much would it need to be the wetest year on record?

Actualy looking at you post above it would be very unlikely so ignor my qustion

Edited July 27, 2007 by mark bayley

[kold weather]

Mr.Data, just out of intrest what is the wettest such Jan-July period?

It would be truely amazing to break that given we only really had 5 months of rainfall given April was very dry and added only a smal lamount to the total!

[Weather-history]

Mr.Data, just out of intrest what is the wettest such Jan-July period?

It would be truely amazing to break that given we only really had 5 months of rainfall given April was very dry and added only a smal lamount to the total!

The figure I found is 675.9mm back in 1782 but I need to check for any others just in any case but it certainly in the top 5, its about 671mm or so now

As for wettest year that was 1872 with 1284.9mm, it would need another 620mm to beat that.

Edited July 27, 2007 by Mr_Data

[kold weather]

Interesting, one final question Mr.Data, what is the driest year ever and could we beat that with 4-5 months remaining??

[Weather-history]

Interesting, one final question Mr.Data, what is the driest year ever and could we beat that with 4-5 months remaining??

Impossible

That was 1788 with 612.0mm (May-July 2007 is wetter than Jun-Dec 1788)

We already wetter than the 3 driest years on record

1788: 612.0

1921: 629.0

1887: 669.3

Edited July 27, 2007 by Mr_Data

[Gray-Wolf]

The figure I found is 675.9mm back in 1782 but I need to check for any others just in any case but it certainly in the top 5, its about 671mm or so now

As for wettest year that was 1872 with 1284.9mm, it would need another 620mm to beat that.

I take it each of these old record daily totals were in inches (or parts thereof) and then converted to metric at a later date.

Having worked in inches at infants/junior school I know how hard it was to take the measure so maybe the 18th century figures are a best guess rather than an accurate record?

[The PIT]

I take it each of these old record daily totals were in inches (or parts thereof) and then converted to metric at a later date.

Having worked in inches at infants/junior school I know how hard it was to take the measure so maybe the 18th century figures are a best guess rather than an accurate record?

That will apply to all earlier measurements in fairness.

I've noticed the Met office have pushed the rain further North again on Sunday. This shows much uncertainty even such a short time period.

[tinybill]

That will apply to all earlier measurements in fairness.

I've noticed the Met office have pushed the rain further North again on Sunday. This shows much uncertainty even such a short time period.

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoplus/t...splay=raincloud

just looking at that for next week should make people depressed

[The PIT]

Another 138.2mm to make it the wettest Summer ever. Now if Sunday drops a load in the CET area it's still going to take a lot to beat it. Now there was a very large eurption June 1912 which may have helpded it on the way. Can't see one for 1879 though.

[tinybill]

http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=2...1&bliksem=0

looking at that there something brewing over N -France and Cornwall this afternoon looks like more rain

[cheeky_monkey]

raining again here!!!

[tinybill]

raining again here!!!

there is some rain forming in that area as john said not looking good this week end at all

[johnholmes]

the rain you can see, as my post on the other thread is not likely to give any concern to the flooded areas. That will happen from about 0100-1000 on Sunday.

The present rain will flirt with the south ocast counties as it moves east.

[tinybill]

the rain you can see, as my post on the other thread is not likely to give any concern to the flooded areas. That will happen from about 0100-1000 on Sunday.

The present rain will flirt with the south ocast counties as it moves east.

thk john

[Weather-history]

Wettest May-June-July periods for England and Wales

2007 394.3

1789 349.1

1879 342.1

1828 329.5

1782 329.4

Wettest June-July periods for England and Wales

2007 273.7

1768 270.6

1839 267.8

1879 260.7

Wettest May to August periods.....and this is before August has even started

1879: 490.6

1912: 466.3

1860: 463.8

1817: 447.1

1797: 438.6

1828: 428.3

1830: 421.2

1829: 412.9

1931: 411.9

1768: 408.3

1924: 406.5

1792: 401.5

1852: 399.2

1958: 394.7

1903: 393.2

2007 392.2

Edited July 28, 2007 by Mr_Data

[johnholmes]

those last set of figures are even more staggering than the first two, given, as you say, August has yet to start.

[kold weather]

Yeah they are quite amazing aren't they John. We are destroying the previous record for rainfall between May-July, by the end of the month no doub tit'll be quite a large outlier compared to the other wet months, its going to up there on its own without anything even close...and we still have another wet day to come yet which will probably take us upto 400MM+.

[Anti-Mild]

Yeah they are quite amazing aren't they John. We are destroying the previous record for rainfall between May-July, by the end of the month no doub tit'll be quite a large outlier compared to the other wet months, its going to up there on its own without anything even close...and we still have another wet day to come yet which will probably take us upto 400MM+.

Even if we get above 400mm for July then to break the May-August record would still require August to have 90mm of rain to break the record set in 1879 which although not uncommon might be a stretch (hopefully) after 3 very wet months.

[Turnedoutniceagain]

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wm/...t_warnings.html

More fun & games for tonight/tomorrow. Just as I was about to get the garden chairs out of the stable !!

[cheeky_monkey]

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wm/...t_warnings.html

More fun & games for tonight/tomorrow. Just as I was about to get the garden chairs out of the stable !!

damn..i got a bbq this evening! :lol:

[Weather-history]

and we still have another wet day to come yet which will probably take us upto 400MM+.

I think we are over 400mm now. The Met Office value was 387.6mm by the 22nd July, Philip's July rain total when added suggested 371.6mm for same time.

We may have to add as much as 16mm to the provisional total which suggest its about 410mm now.

We'll have to wait and see.

If that rainfall total fell during an actual season rather than overlapping then it would be ranked as following for the following seasons (thats the 394.3mm figure)

Winter: 5th wettest

Spring: wettest

Summer: 4th wettest

Autumn: 12th wettest

[Turnedoutniceagain]

damn..i got a bbq this evening! :lol:

mmmm, wet hot dogs :lol:

You may be taking slightly more water in your whisky than you'd anticipated.