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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl

Reef

Sorry I didn't mean to say whether your figures are representative of the CET that was a mistake. Your explanation of your location clears up my wonder about your figures.

As for the CET a downward trend from tomorrow onwards for the foreseeable future, perhaps not so cool at night as thought early on in the week with cloud likely to be a feature.

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  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.

Latest CET is 17.0ºC. Yesterday was 18.9ºC (max 22.7ºC, min 15.1ºC).

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
Latest CET is 17.0ºC. Yesterday was 18.9ºC (max 22.7ºC, min 15.1ºC).

My thinking is that we are at the highest peak in the CET for the month, downwards for the next week or so, then a probable stutter with perhaps room for some upwards adjustment in the latter part of the month but nothing akin to what happened in July and therefore not enough to breach the 17 degree mark again.

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  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
My thinking is that we are at the highest peak in the CET for the month, downwards for the next week or so, then a probable stutter with perhaps room for some upwards adjustment in the latter part of the month but nothing akin to what happened in July and therefore not enough to breach the 17 degree mark again.

With last night registering at 14.6ºC and today (probably) low 20s, I reckon we may rise to 17.1ºc tomorrow, before the inevitable slide. I agree that once this occurs, it will prove difficult to rise higher than this as August is a cooling month.

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  • Location: Teston, Kent (3mls SW of Maidstone)
  • Location: Teston, Kent (3mls SW of Maidstone)

We have recorded an above average first week in August with Hadley updating at 17.2C today. This is 0.5C above the running average for 1971-2000 and a full degree above the average 1971/2000 CET for the whole of August.

It is fair to say the next 7 days will rather cooler and disappointingly unsettled for holidaymakers. Possibly back to average by mid month.

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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

Ensemble monitering suggests that the CET will be in the low 15C range by the 23rd.

Current CET is 16.9C according to Phillip Eden.

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  • Location: Just north of Cardiff sometimes Llantrisant.
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snow. Summer: Hot and Dry
  • Location: Just north of Cardiff sometimes Llantrisant.

ArE the charts showing a heatwave at the moment?

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  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent

Provisional Hadley CET is 16.8C to the 9th

Certainly a below average week to come although no really cold days or nights so I would expect the next 7 days to pan out around 15.0c - 15.5c - that would give us a CET of about 16.0C-16.2C in a weeks time at the half way point.

Ensemble data suggest that conditions will move towards average after this point, however at this range it cannot be taken too seriously.

16C give or take half a degree would appear to be the most likely landing point, so at this early stage another month close to average looks farily likely.

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  • Location: W. Northants
  • Location: W. Northants

Its really high minima that is keeping the CET at a reasonable level at the moment. If we do see a build in pressure later in the month, as seems likely, we may start to get some much cooler nights, so the CET may fall more later in the month, despite being under an anticylonic influence?

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  • Location: Skirlaugh, East Yorkshire
  • Location: Skirlaugh, East Yorkshire
Its really high minima that is keeping the CET at a reasonable level at the moment. If we do see a build in pressure later in the month, as seems likely, we may start to get some much cooler nights, so the CET may fall more later in the month, despite being under an anticylonic influence?

Indeed, its been quite a strange month so far, the opposite of February (which as Mr Data mentioned is sunnier so far) in that the month had a very high maxima and close to average minima.

August here is currently running at 17.9°C (+1.3°C) but when you break it down, you realise the effect of the minima.

Figures here at the moment:

August 1-10 Mean Max: 21.0°C (-0.1°C)

August 1-10 Mean Min: 14.9°C (+2.6°C)

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam

For England and Wales as a whole, it is going to wetter than last August for certain and the way things are going it could end up the wettest August since 2004 (156.5mm)

Aug 2005: 62.5mm

Aug 2006: 85.9mm

Aug 2007: 57.5mm

As for sunshine, it looks like being duller than the first half of February 2008.

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  • Location: Teston, Kent (3mls SW of Maidstone)
  • Location: Teston, Kent (3mls SW of Maidstone)

Provisional Hadley continues its slide downwards and now stands at 16.6C up to the 12th.

However the most notable thing this month as Mr Data mentions above is the lack of sunshine. This of all the stats is most conducive to the weatherwise feel bad factor.

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The CET seems to be holding up very well, I'm surprised it's not in the low 16.* by now or even high 15.*, especialyl with most if not all areas in the CET zone being below average temps.

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  • Location: G.Manchester
  • Location: G.Manchester

It's because of night time minima. It always starts of high then dips down later in the month as Autumn closes in.

Mean maxima as of today stands at 19.7c which is 0.6c below 61-90 average. If minima was the same the mean temperature would stand at 15.2c.

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  • Location: Yorkshire Puddin' aka Kirkham, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
  • Weather Preferences: cold winters, cold springs, cold summers and cold autumns
  • Location: Yorkshire Puddin' aka Kirkham, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
It's because of night time minima. It always starts of high then dips down later in the month as Autumn closes in.

Mean maxima as of today stands at 19.7c which is 0.6c below 61-90 average. If minima was the same the mean temperature would stand at 15.2c.

The minima are surprisingly high considering were in cold sectors in the westerly airstream. They must be well modified by the nearby warm SST anomalies.

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  • Location: Teesdale,Co Durham. 360m asl
  • Location: Teesdale,Co Durham. 360m asl
The minima are surprisingly high considering were in cold sectors in the westerly airstream. They must be well modified by the nearby warm SST anomalies.

Probably more to do with higher humidity and cloud cover than SST's.

Mark

Teesdale,Co Durham

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  • Location: G.Manchester
  • Location: G.Manchester

...Or more to do with the fact we're still on the summer side of the season. As I said, the big change for nights will come during the second half. That's when the nights become appreciably cool and noticeably so. That's when naturally the minima will correct itself.

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

Nights seem to of started to cool off starting from last night the first single figure of 9.5c here and tonight looks similar a below average august looks easily possible to me now, especially looking at the models.

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
...Or more to do with the fact we're still on the summer side of the season. As I said, the big change for nights will come during the second half. That's when the nights become appreciably cool and noticeably so. That's when naturally the minima will correct itself.

Yes if we do see hogh pressure build from an atlantic origin source then nights would be appreciably cool due to the time of year. Clear nights in the second half of August usually mean very cool ones.

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam

Will summer make a last minute rescue?

Thats the subtitle of this thread. It looks more like nailing down the coffin and burying this summer.

Just look how poor August is compared to last August at this stage for England and Wales. Its already wetter than the whole of last August and sunshine figures are way down.

http://www.climate-uk.com/graphs/200808.htm

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  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine, convective precipitation, snow, thunderstorms, "episodic" months.
  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire

I was thinking that myself- it's looking increasingly like August will be the month that secures Summer 2008's position, in the memory of most, as a distinctly poor one, particularly for southern and south-eastern England which fared fairly okay in June and July.

The August CET still being kept up by warm nights I notice, so I don't think the CET is going to be anything exceptional, though it may threaten "lowest diurnal range" records, the way it's going. However, I think if this keeps up, high rainfall and low sunshine records certainly look under threat, especially with the dull wet weather projected to start on Saturday.

I went for 16.6C CET in my long range forecast, which is still a possibility, but around 16.0 looks a more likely landing spot.

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
I was thinking that myself- it's looking increasingly like August will be the month that secures Summer 2008's position, in the memory of most, as a distinctly poor one, particularly for southern and south-eastern England which fared fairly okay in June and July.

How can it be distinctly poor if June and July was ok ?. The summer at worse has been average with a bit more rain B) . June cet just below average ,Cet for July and August above average, the final CET for August might turn out to be around average (depends on the last week)

Its been a very average summer, yes poor if you like 30c + heat but nothing unusual

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  • Location: G.Manchester
  • Location: G.Manchester

Exactly. The summer hasn't been that poor, selective memory if you ask me. Just had the best May in a long long time for England and Wales, June was average and nothing exceptional. July was generally poor but the last week was the est summer spell since 2006. August so far has been distinctly poor, especially by day though.

Could be a summer which has remnants of 1979 in it. June and July 1979 had exactly the same CET as this year. Although May was cold, 3.4c below this years.

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