Midlands Cold Spell Discussion - Part 15

[cold stoke]

We've had nothing but rain and sleet this afternoon; yesterday's light cover of snow had all gone by 2pm, even in the shade. Must have been at least 5C this afternoon (couldn't even see my breath outside at one point)- what the hell is going on?? The forecast was for a max of 2 and snow showers.

here at stoke we had alot of snow not far away

[weather_it_will]

Hi xanadu - you're near me. We have rain right now and temps are too high for snow.

Hi Serendipity.

Dewpoints are marginal, and here dewpoint is 0.1°C with temp of 2.8°

Looking at the radar, about where you are is currently the changeover point from rain to snow.

No precipitation here yet, but I see the very dark clouds approaching out the window.

[azores92]

what do we reckon for tuesday and wednesday? there is a chance of a slow moving front moving down from the north on tuesday night/wednesday, which could give significant accumulations in central areas.

[Summer of 95]

here at stoke we had alot of snow not far away

I know, was listening to the saga of the York coach on the radio . I see it snowed in Ellesmere too, that's even closer and no higher than here. What caused it to be rain/sleet THIS time???

Although we did still record a snow-lying day this morning, but once the sun rose higher I was amazed how mild it became- felt like March the way the snow/ice all vanished.

[andy_leics22]

Wow, what a strange day! Just been to watch Leicester beat Swansea 2-1 which was good But through the whole game all that was falling was rain and sleet. I expected any PPN to be snow here today, how wrong I was! It certainly felt cold enough for snow though, it was absolutely bitter out there, so so cold.

[Costa Del Fal]

That trough from the North later isnt going to be much if its like it is now. Much of it is very light or light.

[I remember Atlantic 252]

what do we reckon for tuesday and wednesday? there is a chance of a slow moving front moving down from the north on tuesday night/wednesday, which could give significant accumulations in central areas.

not sure the strength of it, but looks good, but maybe rain/sleet or weak too far out yet, wednesday looks good, low to the SE, and ecm looks fantastic for convective snow from the E, gfs has the high further S so dry on gfs for end of week

[Nick L]

That trough from the North later isnt going to be much if its like it is now. Much of it is very light or light.

After it gets torn to pieces by the Pennines and the Peak District I think we will be lucky to get very light, let alone light!

Anyway, another belter ECM for us next week, heavy and frequent snow showers piling in off the North Sea.

Edited January 2, 2010 by nick2702

[dvdfjojo]

I used to live down the road from you in Baddesley Ensor!

Nice little fish & chip shop in Baddesley

[loopydreamer]

arghhhhh! the temp is bloody 2.5 and d/p is 1

i need colder air for god sake

[I remember Atlantic 252]

After it gets torn to pieces by the Pennines and the Peak District I think we will be lucky to get very light, let alone light!

Anyway, another belter ECM for us next week, heavy and frequent snow showers piling in off the North Sea.

yeah great ecm, what did you have today? i had sleet then heavy wet snow, slippy out there but temp now rising 0.6C

[Nick L]

yeah great ecm, what did you have today? i had sleet then heavy wet snow, slippy out there but temp now rising 0.6C

Haven't a clue, was visiting family in Birmingham, where it was just cold rain and a bit of sleet!

Very slippy down my road as well, will be an ice rink in the morning.

[echobase]

Wow, what a strange day! Just been to watch Leicester beat Swansea 2-1 which was good But through the whole game all that was falling was rain and sleet. I expected any PPN to be snow here today, how wrong I was! It certainly felt cold enough for snow though, it was absolutely bitter out there, so so cold.

Linz was sent home due to snow a Waltham! ( It has the elevation and always has snow if its offered! )

We had some heavy showers (whilst at work in Oakham) from the Cheshire thang, which probably gave us 2cm but then within half an hour we lost it all to sleet!

[Serendipity]

So what areas are still to see lying snow this winter? We had a sprinkling one day but it was less than 0.1cm lol. I would have LOVED my children to have had snow to play in this holiday!

[cold stoke]

stoke as snow and more to come tonight

[hilldweller]

So what areas are still to see lying snow this winter? We had a sprinkling one day but it was less than 0.1cm lol. I would have LOVED my children to have had snow to play in this holiday!

Loads here in Buxton

I reckon today we had about 4-5" on top of what was already laying

Kind regards,

K Walker

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Edited January 2, 2010 by keviwal

[Summer of 95]

Right just looked at the Metoffice reports- Shawbury reached 4.6C this afternoon (so probably was 5 in Shrewsbury) while Leek Thorncliffe was 0.0 at the same time. There is only 30 miles between them and about 220m altitude difference. 4.6C in 200m??? That can't be a normal lapse rate- comes to about 18C per km!

[dvdfjojo]

So what areas are still to see lying snow this winter? We had a sprinkling one day but it was less than 0.1cm lol. I would have LOVED my children to have had snow to play in this holiday!

We've had the same as you, Serendipity - it's so frustrating to see it all around you, isn't it? The fax charts for early Tuesday show a slow moving front coming down the county so I think the midlands should do pretty well from that if it comes off. Hopefully, they'll get their day off school to play out in it.

[Rich_T]

So what areas are still to see lying snow this winter?

Buxton and the Northern parts of Derbyshire may have had lying snow, but for the Southern parts of Derbyshire, especialy round the Trent Valley.

My definition of lying snow is a covering, not just a few random flecks lodged in a clump of grass in a green and mud brown field that you have to search for in order to find.

[NiikAURA]

Right just looked at the Metoffice reports- Shawbury reached 4.6C this afternoon (so probably was 5 in Shrewsbury) while Leek Thorncliffe was 0.0 at the same time. There is only 30 miles between them and about 220m altitude difference. 4.6C in 200m??? That can't be a normal lapse rate- comes to about 18C per km!

Haha, that's about 3 times the average lapse rate, interesting!

[MKN]

just had a light snow shower here so looks like anything later will be snow

[cold stoke]

what do you think about this front coming from the north will it be snow or rain and how far south will it get?

[butler_son]

Well, this winter's certainly shaping up to be the coldest one so far this decade!

[I remember Atlantic 252]

It suddenly makes it really serious, so everyone take care because the way they're talkin, this is serious. I've never seen anything like it

http://null.co.uk/?p=235

Makes it a bit scary really

Take care people

lol that says 5th-6th DECEMBER now that is FI

[Serendipity]

what do you think about this front coming from the north will it be snow or rain and how far south will it get?

It doesn't look very exciting! It's not destined for me in the west mids anyway but I think if it carries on losing intensity the east midlands will do well to get even a shower from it!