Ex Ts Katia In The UK - Chat Thread 3

[richardc1983]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036158/Hurricane-Katia-UK-Worst-storms-15-years-bring-blackouts-chaos.html some decent pictures on there of the damage and power of the winds.

Roofs ripped off houses and huge 30ft waves!

[Liam J]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036158/Hurricane-Katia-UK-Worst-storms-15-years-bring-blackouts-chaos.html some decent pictures on there of the damage and power of the winds.

Roofs ripped off houses and huge 30ft waves!

And there was members who said this storm would only move wheelie bins about!! They sound very silly now, obviously not clued up enough to know how damaging 70-80mph winds can be.

[Coast]

Still a bit of wind around today for central and Northern areas, dying down towards dusk:

The remnants of the hurricane brought fearsome 80mph-plus winds yesterday - with a second day’s hammering today expected to halt weakened transport networks, damage homes and topple trees. With winds expected to reach 75mph in the north again today weathermen warned the country is not out of the woods yet, saying many Brits would never have seen a storm as powerful as Katia. There were warnings that the giant waves which pounded seafronts yesterday will breach sea walls today as Katia coincides with a period of high tides and the full moon.

Flooding is also possible as Scotland is swamped by further heavy rain after downpours yesterday.Yesterday saw a catalogue of disruption including the M6 being shut in Cheshire, ferries cancelled across the Irish Sea and English Channel, roads closed as trees toppled, fears over house damage and power cuts and the axing of a Tour of Britain cycle race stage.

The country’s worst hurricane-based storm since 1996’s Hurricane Lili ploughed through the UK with winds up to 82mph - with gusts of up to 75mph due today before the torment blasts across the North Sea to Norway.

The brunt of Katia - with winds of up to 80mph - was felt across a 300-mile wide strip of the UK, from mid-Wales to central Scotland in the west, across to Lincolnshire up to north-east Scotland in the east. But winds were up to 60mph in all other parts of the country, as the hurricane scored a direct hit on the UK after being blown across the Atlantic over the weekend by the jet stream.

Worryingly, the Met Office warned today’s winds risk halting damaged road, rail and ferry transport networks, dislodge loose slates and masonry on houses and topple trees weighed down by leaves yet to fall. The Met Office extreme weather warning for today read: “Strong winds will affect central Scotland, Northern Ireland and northern England, particularly to the east of high ground.

“Persistent rain over western Scotland may lead to localised flooding. “The public should be aware of the continued risk of disruption to transport and of the possibility of further damage to trees and structures already in a weakened state.”

Met Office forecaster Helen Chivers said: “There will be strong wind gusts again on Tuesday, which could cause further damage - particularly with trees more vulnerable as they are still in leaf. “Gusts of up to 70mph are expected in the morning in exposed parts of northern England and southern Scotland, with 50mph inland - and with 50-60mph gusts in exposed parts in the afternoon.

“The Midlands will see 30-40mph gusts, with 40mph on the south coast. “There is a continued risk from great big waves crashing onto sea fronts from north Wales to southern Scotland, and although waves will be slightly lower than Monday, high tides and the full moon mean there is a higher risk of tidal flooding. “Monday saw winds reach 81mph in the morning in Capel Curig, north Wales, and increase all the time further north, with 75-80mph gusts expected on coasts and in exposed areas across northern England, southern Scotland and Northern Ireland. “Exposed areas north of a line from mid-Wales to Lincolnshire were due 65-75mph gusts on Monday, with 50-60mph inland. “The south was due for 50-60mph gusts in exposed parts, with 30-40mph inland.”

http://www.telegraph...iant-waves.html

[Coast]

Ireland got quite a bashing:

Thousands of homes were left without power, dozens of trees were felled and travel was severely disrupted yesterday as the powerful remnants of Hurricane Katia swept across Ireland. Winds gusting to more than 100kmh hit Ireland as the tail-end of the destructive hurricane took its toll mainly on the western and north-western counties. The highest gust of 137kmh was recorded on Arranmore Island in Co Donegal, where three schools were forced to close for the day. More than 13,000 homes in six different counties had electricity cuts -- with half of these in Donegal.

The ESB worked hard to restore customers but yesterday evening, as customers in the north-west had their power restored, high winds cut supplies across Meath and north Dublin. "Our repair crews have been dispatched and are working to restore supply to these customers," an ESB spokeswoman said. Travel was also severely disrupted as trees were blown over in several locations in Galway, Sligo, Leitrim, Cavan, Longford and Mayo. The N59 Galway to Clifden route was closed for a number of hours at Oughterard after a large tree fell across the road, while two other trees were blown over at Killanin. In Galway city, early-morning motorists had a narrow escape when a large tree fell across the Monivea Road, close to the Thermo King plant.

The AA reissued warnings to motorists last night as flying debris was a major cause for concern on the N18 Galway-Limerick road throughout the day. Motorists were also warned not to tailgate during the stormy weather and drivers of HGVs and buses were warned to take care as they were more at risk in strong cross winds due to the height of their vehicles. Ferry crossings, flights and coastal rail services were also disrupted. P&O Ferries cancelled a number of crossings between Irish ports and Britain. Some Dart services to Bray and Greystones were disrupted because of damage to power lines. Flights were also affected at Shannon Airport, where winds reached speeds of 85kmh at times. An Aer Lingus flight from London Heathrow was forced to abort one landing after the crew received a wind-sheer alert in the cockpit.

Two Dublin-bound Ryanair flights were forced to divert to Shannon because winds in Dublin were reported to have reached 116kmh. The west coast was locked down as high winds raged. Most of the western fishing fleet was tied up at Rossaveal, Co Galway, while others remained berthed at Galway harbour. Galway Harbour Master Captain Brian Sheridan said the storm was Category 10 to Category 13, which gave it hurricane status. He described the situation as "pretty severe".

Meanwhile, a number of people were injured yesterday after they ignored warnings about the dangerous conditions at the Cliffs of Moher and ended up being swept off their feet. Management at the popular attraction had advised visitors not to venture up around the cliffs because of the "extremely hazardous conditions". Several people ignored the management's warnings, however, and as a result a number of people suffered falls and sustained minor injuries on the cliffs. Met Eireann says conditions will be stormy again today, particularly in the west and north west with gusts of up to 80kmph

http://www.belfastte...l#ixzz1XoVA8woU

[Snowangel-MK]

Katia winds bring death and chaos

A motorist died and an 11-year-old boy was taken to hospital after the remnants of Hurricane Katia brought 80mph winds to Britain. But although further blustery conditions are expected, the winds will not be as strong as they were on Monday, forecasters said. Thousands were left without power on Monday night as gusty weather caused damage to buildings and resulted in travel disruption around the UK. In County Durham, a driver died when a tree hit a car on the A688 at Dunhouse Quarry, between Staindrop and Barnard Castle.

Durham Police said a passenger in the car was taken to hospital in Darlington with injuries which are not thought to be life threatening following the incident at about 3pm. Meanwhile, an 11-year-old boy was taken to hospital in Bradford after he was hit by a roof blown off a garage. West Yorkshire Fire Service said the boy was rescued from the debris in Roper Lane, Queensbury, by fire fighters and taken to hospital by ambulance. The boy was taken to Bradford Royal Infirmary but his injuries are not believed to be life-threatening. Fire fighters in West Yorkshire said they were called to a number of other weather-related incidents including two in which telegraph poles came down, setting fields on fire.

Press Association – 4 hours ago

[Robbie Garrett]

LONDON LUTON - EGGW 130458Z 1306/1406 24013KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 1310/1319 25020G30KT 5000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1311/1316 3000 +TSRA

LONDON/CITY - EGLC 130802Z 1309/1318 23011KT 9999 SCT035 TEMPO 1310/1318 24018G28KT 5000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1310/1315 3000 TSRA

LONDON/GATWICK - EGKK 130459Z 1306/1412 24013KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 1310/1318 25018G28KT 7000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1311/1315 TSRA

LONDON/HEATHROW - EGLL 130459Z 1306/1412 24015KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 1310/1318 25018G28KT 7000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1311/1315 TSRA

LONDON/STANSTED - EGSS 130458Z 1306/1412 24013KT 9999 SCT040 TEMPO 1310/1319 25020G30KT 5000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1311/1316 3000 +TSRA

LYDD - EGMD 130802Z 1309/1318 24018KT 9999 SCT035 TEMPO 1309/1310 24020G30KT TEMPO 1310/1318 24022G34KT 5000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1311/1315 3000 +TSRA

EGKB 130802Z 1309/1318 24014KT 9999 SCT035 TEMPO 1310/1318 24018G28KT 5000 SHRA PROB30 TEMPO 1311/1315 3000 +TSRA

MetOffice Ammendement ISOL CB012-030 with ISOL 3000m +SHRA/TSRA in area C1 (Trough) Frontal Zones valid at 131200z

Edited September 13, 2011 by Robbie Garrett

[Liam J]

GFS & NAE 06z runs show potential for a narrow swathe of very strongs winds later today courtesy of the shortwave tightening the isobars up over SW Scotland parts of Northern Ireland then Northern England. Gusts possible to over 60mph - hence why the weather warnings still stand over Northern Britain.

Edited September 13, 2011 by Liam J

[shedhead]

An interesting evert overall for sure and without question severe in a number of places (most of which were well forecasted), but still nothing out of the ordinary to my mind. Did it live up to it's billing? No in my opinion, but that is simply a reflection of it's billing and not it's ultimate/actual affects.

Edited September 13, 2011 by shedhead

[Liam J]

I recorded my strongest gust since January 2005 of 75mph yesterday , other events have came close with Janaury 2007 69mph and Nov 2010 producing a 72mph gust..

I agree it was not exceptional like for example January 2005 When I recorded 88mph, but it was severe by any standards - out of the ordinary I would say yes as gusts over 70mph are not regular events for the majority of the British Isles - yes severe depressions during autmn and winter can produce these gusts but it's not as if we experience these wind strengths each month or week of the year which IMO makes it out of the ordinary.

[Luton Weather]

We're getting heavy rain and strong winds right now.

Edited September 13, 2011 by Luton-Weather

[Backtrack]

Not memorable for me. A top speed of 41.7mph is hardly strong.

[Lauren]

On another forum people have been asking where the hurricane was and that it was all a bit of a fuss about nothing. Yes, I was telling you this but seemed reluctant to want to hear it.

[Harry]

Not memorable for me. A top speed of 41.7mph is hardly strong.

It's memorable for the family who's father, son, husband and no doubt somebody's good friend, perished under a falling tree!

The storm was never going to be notable everywhere - nearly every warning issued related to Scotland and Northern Ireland, where even here it was for localised occurrences of severe weather (namely coasts and high ground in particular)

[chionomaniac]

Personally, I think that this storm has delivered more or less what one would have expected. It has been strong enough to bring trees and weakened structures down but not the amount of wanton destruction that some on here may have craved. Katia did look at some points that she was likely to affect us more than she did, but it was worth noting that at some points on some models she also looked to affect us less than she did. Ex Katia was a very notable early autumn storm especially for September. The main areas that Katia was at her severest were those more used to dealing with more severe winter storms and the perception therefore will be that Katia was note particularly noteworthy when compared to these storms.

However I would like to compare Katia to an early Autumn snowfall. It may not cause a huge amount of disruption but the timing of it is certainly noteworthy.

Edited September 13, 2011 by chionomaniac

[Coast]

Yep, seemed to be pretty well where it was supposed to be, a little later and longer perhaps but about as strong as expected in the places it hit.

As always, any loss of life is sad and those decrying the storm as weak, unexciting, not as hyped up etc etc ,should remember that what is a mere hobby or interest to us, has been a tragedy and loss to others. We should also remember that this was never going to be an extreme and widespread event and that the places that did get something are generally places that experience this sort of thing more often, but perhaps not this early in the season. For us in more Southern areas who didn't experience huge gusts - well we were never due to get them anyway!

[knightrider]

44mph recorded at 3 seperate locations not far from me so it was quite a windy day here but nothing out of the ordinary, sounds like Scotland and Northern Ireland had it quite bad with 70-80mph gusts recorded quite widely and the strongest reported gust was 98mph so I wasn't far off there with my strongest gust prediction. Still generally gusts where between 60 and 70mph which whilst is quite bad isn't anything which people in the North-Western quarter of the UK arn't quite used to, something you'd expect to see at least once every couple of years I would have thought if not then on pretty much a yearly basis.

[The PIT]

Second strongest since mar 11th this year when 66 mph was reached. Only damage round here was one tree which split and is in a fairly sheltered area so the gust that took that was probably between 40 and 50 so the tree was possibly ready to come down due to it's age. Apart from that no visible damage when driving about i.e ridge tiles and slates off fences down.

Strongest gusts this year

66 mph 11th Mar

64 mph 7th Feb

60 mph 5th Feb

60 mph 8th Feb

59 mph 12th Sep

58 mph 4th Feb

56 mph 24th May

53 mph 16th Jan

51 mph 1st Apr

[knightrider]

The media have got hysterical about this as per normal saying it's the biggest storm to hit the UK in 15 years since we got the tail end of Hurricane Lili, what aload of nonesense lol There's been several storms in the last 15 years that where worse then Katia including Lili herself.

[karl_32]

just got higher winds in a squall half an hour ago than we got all day yesterday . Only lasted 5 minutes but was way more exciting

Edited September 13, 2011 by karl_32

[Harry]

The media have got hysterical about this as per normal saying it's the biggest storm to hit the UK in 15 years since we got the tail end of Hurricane Lili, what aload of nonesense lol There's been several storms in the last 15 years that where worse then Katia including Lili herself.

Indeed that does strike me as some what ridiculous!! There's been loads of deep depressions/storms since which have killed many people.

Here's some sensationalism if ever you've heard it...

http://www.weather.com/weather/videos/news-41/top-stories-169/watching-the-tropics-6584#loc=62/436/21873

[karl_32]

The media have got hysterical about this as per normal saying it's the biggest storm to hit the UK in 15 years

and people have fell for it hook line and sinker . Someone on youtube yesterday claimed he was excited as he had never experienced a hurricane before. i politley said "and nor will you ever as you live in the uk"

He went on to call me an idiot and because he got 80mph winds it was a cat 1 hurricane and the 87 storm was a cat 4 hurricane

Someone getting their gusts mixed up with their sustained

[bobbydog]

i wish people would stop banging on about how 'disappointing' and 'over-hyped' this storm was. what some people either forget or fail to realise is that weather forecasting is dynamic. this means it is ever-changing and updated as data is received and processed. in situations of severe weather, forecasters have to go with the 'worst-case scenario' potential of a weather system, in order to give warnings and make people aware of the dangers. in this situation, the storm did not end up as bad as it could have been. as i said, the weather is dynamic and could just as easily have gone the other way and created a large amount of damage and loss of life.

people should know by now that the media will always over-hype the potential of severe weather because it makes a good story.

my advice is to ignore the media and listen to the forecasters, bearing in mind, they will always err on the side of caution where bad weather is concerned.

Edited September 13, 2011 by bobbydog

[AndyLincs]

Consistently gusty all day today and continues to remain that way. It gets to a point where 25mph mean speeds and 40mph gusts begin to get slightly oppressive e.g. lovely sunny evening but not pleasant to be outside

[Liam J]

Wind picking up again here courtesy of the shortwave, gusting to 50mph most of the day. Heavy showers coming through.

[Chris D]

When they say it was the worst storm for 15 years, what storm are they referring to in 1996? And they are presuming people have very short memories - forget the Jan 2005 (Erwin) & 2007 (Kryill), they don't matter despite the fact that they more way more destructive and deadly... I can't believe they think the public are that stupid

Edit: Ah yes it was the "last hurricane to strike the British Isles" in 1996 - Lili. Of course

Edited September 13, 2011 by chris93