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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
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This is a wave not a cloud and its not photo shopped! This happened today in Cornwall !

 

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Footage of the Hercules storm hitting Sennen Cove........

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfZRh8bjvv8&feature=youtu.be

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  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
  • Weather Preferences: Cool not cold, warm not hot. No strong Wind.
  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
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Meanwhile over in the intellectual thread (model discussion)

 

" what's cold rain ?"

 

"rain that's cold"

 

"isn't all rain cold?"

 

"so is sleet cold rain or warm snow? "

 

 

Brilliant !

so what is hail?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(and no one say "Bopp")

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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so what is hail?

 

 

 

pellets of frozen rain which fall in showers from cumulonimbus clouds Posted Image

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  • Location: Caterham-on-the-hill, Surrey, 190m asl (home), Heathrow (work)
  • Location: Caterham-on-the-hill, Surrey, 190m asl (home), Heathrow (work)
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This is a wave not a cloud and its not photo shopped! This happened today in Cornwall !

 

Posted Image1517683_10202645567125854_1952618500_n.jpg

 

 

Footage of the Hercules storm hitting Sennen Cove........

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfZRh8bjvv8&feature=youtu.be

 

Surf's Up!

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  • Location: west croydon (near lombard)
  • Location: west croydon (near lombard)
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Meanwhile over in the intellectual thread (model discussion)

 

" what's cold rain ?"

 

"rain that's cold"

 

"isn't all rain cold?"

 

"so is sleet cold rain or warm snow? "

 

 

Brilliant !

 

i got a better question

 

what is snow? Posted Image

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  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
  • Weather Preferences: Cool not cold, warm not hot. No strong Wind.
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pellets of frozen rain which fall in showers from cumulonimbus clouds Posted Image

smart a45e Posted Image

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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The day after tomorrow... Today in Michigan .....

 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534548/Michigan-lighthouse-transformed-giant-icicle-freezing-storm.html

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  • Location: Caterham-on-the-hill, Surrey, 190m asl (home), Heathrow (work)
  • Location: Caterham-on-the-hill, Surrey, 190m asl (home), Heathrow (work)
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Incredible seeing the images of the Somerset Levels turned into one big lake

 

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Really feel for those living here ...

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  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
  • Weather Preferences: Cool not cold, warm not hot. No strong Wind.
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Incredible seeing the images of the Somerset Levels turned into one big lake

 

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Really feel for those living here ...

Yes BBC news have been just showing that (but had seen it this morning on breakfast news just as I set out),  shocking levels of flooding.  Good lick to them all there.

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  • Location: Rayleigh, Essex
  • Location: Rayleigh, Essex
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i got a better question

 

what is snow? Posted Image

Something imaginary that I don't believe will ever exist any more round these parts.

so is there any chance the polar vortex or the cold in America comes this way?

Ha can you imagine the UK trying to cope with -35'C temperatures?! That'd be quite something to see considering we can't cope with -3.5'C :D

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  • Location: Aldborough, North Norfolk
  • Location: Aldborough, North Norfolk
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There's a lot of ice there, the weight must be a huge strain on the structure

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  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
  • Weather Preferences: Cool not cold, warm not hot. No strong Wind.
  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
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Look East just announced further flood warnings in cambs (nene) and at Cogenhoe (nene),  all near me Posted Image , but I am safe here (high and away), but my nearby local valley I often walk round will be affected.

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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so is there any chance the polar vortex or the cold in America comes this way?

 

I was reading some very good explanations about this on Facebook here they are....

 

"We will get the snow the US is getting".

A myth that we always get the same weather the US gets but a few weeks later.

A system bringing snow to the US is not going to track thousands of miles over warm ocean and dump snow on the UK. If we do see snow it will be from completely different and unrelated systems.

The systems bringing snow to the US and eastern Canada are actually tracking across the Atlantic and bringing the UK our rain and strong winds (not snow unless you live on high ground in the north) as they interact with the Jet Stream which drives them toward us whilst causing them to deepen and intensify. 

We are getting the same systems they are but they do not bring the deep cold with them.

Pressure patterns and positioning of the Jet Stream over the US can influence our weather and can occasionally bring us similar conditions to those across the US but it is a complete myth that we always get the US' weather a few weeks later!

It does look like turning calmer and less stormy after the early part of next week. Some rain/showers and breezy conditions at times but nothing on the scale of what has been seen in recent weeks.

Mid January looks to bring more settled and possibly cooler/colder conditions but this does not necessarily mean deep cold or snow and if we do see snow it will have nothing to do with the snow storms that have been affecting the US and Canada.

 

 

What is the Polar Vortex?

Relevant to my posts regarding the myth that the UK always gets the US' weather a few weeks later, SSW's (Sudden Stratospheric Warming) and the weather prospects further ahead for the UK.

Since the media have started banding about the term "Polar Vortex" without having a clue what they're talking about (What else is new?) I thought it worth doing a brief explanation.

The Polar Vortex simply refers to areas of low pressure that are dominant over the Arctic and keep the coldest air locked up in here. When the Polar Vortex is disrupted by warming of the Arctic stratosphere (i.e a SSW) and high pressure building in the Arctic region this allows some of that deeply cold air to bleed down into the mid latitudes. Where the cold weather goes to exactly depends on where exactly warming of the stratosphere and building of the high pressure occurs. 

There are signs of a SSW occurring which may increase the chances of cold for the UK (see the SSW post) but it doesn't guarantee it and if we do see cold and snow it will have NOTHING to do with the systems that have brought blizzards to the US and Canada.

 

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  • Location: West Barnes, London, 18m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Warm and sunny; chilly and sunny; thunderstorms; extreme
  • Location: West Barnes, London, 18m ASL
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i got a better question

 

what is snow? Posted Image

I dont believe in this thing they call "snow" any more, its pure make believe.

But i believe in father christmas (he was in our local shopping centre).

I''m 50/50 on the tooth fairy.

In answer to the earlier query i think hail is just hard, cold rain. If you put some in the blender you might get "snow". Close as we are going to get to "snow" it seems.

Im just bitter because i finished my Ark and its stopped raining.

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  • Location: Stevenage - Herts (110m ASL)
  • Location: Stevenage - Herts (110m ASL)
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TypicalJust putting the finishing touches to my ArkAnd they say it'll stop raining

 

 

...and what shall I do with all these animals I've rounded up?

 

Pleased to say it's stopped raining here.

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Im just bitter because i finished my Ark and its stopped raining.

 

I think you must have used the wrong kind of wood preserver on your Ark fd ......

 

 

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  • Location: Alresford, Near Colchester, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: As long as it's not North Sea muck, I'll cope.
  • Location: Alresford, Near Colchester, Essex
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I don't like the murmurings about tomorrow night's possible heavy rain for the SE. :( I wonder if we'll see an amber warning tomorrow, for a part of the region?

 

I hope not and hope the rainfall ends up being less intense than appears may be the case, at this point.

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  • Location: N.Bedfordshire, E.Northamptonshire
  • Weather Preferences: Cool not cold, warm not hot. No strong Wind.
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I don't like the murmurings about tomorrow night's possible heavy rain for the SE. Posted Image I wonder if we'll see an amber warning tomorrow, for a part of the region?

 

I hope not and hope the rainfall ends up being less intense than appears may be the case, at this point.

Still no firm direction for that, even at this short time frame, but it is looking more likely than not :(

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