Snow And Ice In The Northern Hemisphere Autumn/Winter 2014

[Metjet]

Link is working again! Snow cover has definitely melted significantly in Western Russia as expected but still decent for the time of year I believe 

[BornFromTheVoid]

Still mostly positive anomalies. I'd expect the northern hemisphere snow extent to be in the top 3 largest on record this month.

[MKN]

havent been on this thread for some time looks exceptional tbh, hopefully it results in a good winter this time

[meathead]

What was the snow cover like this time last year?

[Ice Day]

What was the snow cover like this time last year?

 

Here you go, 29th October 2013 vs 2014

 

 

 

Other than Scandinavia, looking very good this year

Edited October 29, 2014 by Ice Day

[Iceni]

Who's got an invitation to stay with some very old friends in Pratteln Switzerland then? MEEEEEE

 

At least I'm going to get some snow action in the Northern Hemisphere in the near future. Haven't even looked it up on Google Earth yet — daren't in case it's going to be a disappointment. So if anyone knows the place is ok tell me now. Otherwise ignorance is bliss.

 

Can this be snow?

 

http://www.gga-pratteln.ch/ext_cams/augst.png?1414775990821

Edited October 31, 2014 by Iceni

[karyo]

What is the latest update now that we reached the end of the month?

[Dancerwithwings]

Enjoy you vist to Pratteln Iceni, Sorry but it's to early in the season, today was 16c and sunny, even in the next 14 days temps may drop to 10c - 11c.

Nights will be chilly though    but none of the white stuff I'm afraid.

[Crocodile23]

151020142930251.pnghttp://weerwoord.be/includes/forum_read.php?id=2026137&tid=2026137

 

According to the creator of this graphic, Rutger, the SAI 2014 will be around 2,4. Significant higher than 2009 and 2012 with 1,5-7. Amazing!.

 

What do you mean by 1.5-7 in the "Significant higher than 2009 and 2012 with 1,5-7." ?

 

[Polar Continental]

Hi, possibly not the right thread but...

What on Earth is this, has anyone else noticed the change in graphic, why the change in colours to SST anom, looks as though the northern hemisphere is heading in to the next Ice Age. Is it me or can anyone else understand?

 

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif

 

pc

[Ninman]

Hi, possibly not the right thread but...

What on Earth is this, has anyone else noticed the change in graphic, why the change in colours to SST anom, looks as though the northern hemisphere is heading in to the next Ice Age. Is it me or can anyone else understand?

 

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif

 

pc

Or its several degrees warmer than average?

[Sandri13]

Hi, possibly not the right thread but...

What on Earth is this, has anyone else noticed the change in graphic, why the change in colours to SST anom, looks as though the northern hemisphere is heading in to the next Ice Age. Is it me or can anyone else understand?

 

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif

 

pc

Use this one.

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/anomaly/

Edited November 1, 2014 by Sandri13

[TomDav]

When will the final SAI figure be released?

[Midlands Ice Age]

 

Or its several degrees warmer than average?

 

Could be either.

Thank UNISYS seem to have got some errors in the Northern Hemisphere. Our sister blog is saying it looks to be something to do with seasonality adjustments.

Doesn't look good though.

MIA

[Midlands Ice Age]

 

Use this one.

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/anomaly/

 

I find this chart interesting ...

It shows all the southern hemisphere above the ice cap as well below average SST's. Could this be why the Antartic Ice is so large this year?

It also shows that major areas of the tropics and equatorial regions at average values ( or just positive).

During the summer the Northern hemisphere mid latitudes were showing large positive anomalies.

These appear to be rapidly being eaten away, particularly in the northern pacific.

Also in the mid atlantic we seem to be getting a classic tripole being set up. Good for coldies I am told.

In and around the Arctic we see that the large positive anomalies of the summer are again being eaten away, with just a positive anomaly left around northern scandinavia and Svalbard.

All in all it just shows how quickly anomalies in SST's can change!!

MIA

[snowmore]

Hi, possibly not the right thread but...

What on Earth is this, has anyone else noticed the change in graphic, why the change in colours to SST anom, looks as though the northern hemisphere is heading in to the next Ice Age. Is it me or can anyone else understand?

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif

pc

The colour gradients they use on that chart seem ridiculous, they use the same tones four times twice in negative and twice in positive! Its way open to misinterpretation! Edited November 1, 2014 by jamesd

[Yarmy]

The colour gradients they use on that chart seem ridiculous, they use the same tones four times twice in negative and twice in positive! Its way open to misinterpretation!

Yes, it's always been like that on the unisys sst anomalies. An abject (and I mean abject, not object) lesson in how not to present information. Adjacent areas with wildly different anomalies can be the same colour. Fortunately there are other sources for sst data.

[Polar Continental]

Use this one.

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/anomaly/

Thanks for the help guys, I found the old SST style anomaly chart a very informative, the replacement (I linked)in my eyes is next to useless.

pc

[radiohead]

 

From the americanwx website.

Edited November 2, 2014 by radiohead

[bluearmy]

 

From the americanwx website.

Some marked melt at the back end of the month brings the end point to 2009 value. However, wrt to cohen's theory, the strong advancement through the month should do the trick re the Siberian high strength.

[BornFromTheVoid]

The latest weekly sea ice extent update is here https://forum.netweather.tv/topic/74411-arctic-ice-data-and-stats/?p=3063222

[Ice Day]

After a few days of losses, we're back on the 'gain train'. Finland's filling up nicely!

Yesterday vs Today

 

Edited November 2, 2014 by Ice Day

[LincolnSnowstorm]

I see the latest snow departure is comparable or has plenty of time to become  comparable to other interesting years 

 

Note the below Latitude  60 degree snow on each 

2014 day 305  2009 day 330  2010 day 313 

 

 

It has been a good month 

[LincolnSnowstorm]

After a few days of losses, we're back on the 'gain train'. Finland's filling up nicely!

Yesterday vs Today

 

that a decent increase nice!

next 3 days 

http://www.snow-forecast.com/maps/dynamic/scand?over=none&symbols=snow&type=snow.next3days

 

and cold there  

 

Note  snow in Moscow Monday! http://www.yr.no/place/Russia/Moscow/Moscow/hour_by_hour.html

Hope to see something on the cams  http://www.probkiizokna.ru/showcam.php?cam_id=7298

Edited November 2, 2014 by LincolnSnowstorm

[throwoff]

I thought some people might be interested to see some historical comparisons.

 

This is the current map -

 

 

As you can see it is filling in nicely and the ice is quite something.

 

If we compare to 2013 (a poor year for us coldies!) 

 

 

The snow cover is nowhere near as far south and the ice is nowhere near where we are now.

Hopefully this bodes well for a year unlike 2013!

 

Here is 2009 

 

 

 

And here is 2010

 

 

If anything we are currently somewhere between 09 and 10, the snow is not as hard west as it was in 09 but it is far more south than it was in 10.

This kind of sits about right with people like Steve Murrs forecast of it being a cold winter with some very cold patches but not a snowmageddon like we had in 2009.

 

Incidentally Canada looks to be closer this year to 2010 than anything else, the entire north whited out.

 

Obviously this is but one of the cogs in the machine but looking at the current chart, the OPI and other factors I think we are in for some more fun than 2013 for sure and maybe even something on a par with 2010.

Edited November 3, 2014 by throwoff