South East and East Anglia weather discussion/Chat - A new year

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Also a little tip for people, you can tell how cold the DP is and air temp buy how quickly things dry out on the ground, it makes no sense I know but the lower the DP quicker things dry out (dryer air at cold temps)

[Daniel*]

4 minutes ago, Surrey said:

Wann see those come down a touch more for settling snow 

Cold dew points moving southeast...

By 3pm bulk of region has sufficent dew points,

thankfully the precip will arrive in more 'fertile' conditions for snow,

Some reports of heavy snow in the far north regional 

3PM -

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Just now, Earnest Easterly* said:

Cold dew points moving southeast...

By 3pm bulk of region has sufficent dew points,

thankfully the precip will arrive in more 'fertile' conditions for snow,

Some reports of heavy snow in the far north regional 

3PM -

I fear for the Eastern areas on those charts... 

[fulham snow]

1 minute ago, Surrey said:

Also a little tip for people, you can tell how cold the DP is and air temp buy how quickly things dry out on the ground, it makes no sense I know but the lower the DP quicker things dry out (dryer air at cold temps)

You are correct there.

On my many visits to Moscow the air is very cold and dew point very low so anything that doesn't freeze drys out very quickly,strange but true.

[Deep Snow please]

3 minutes ago, Earnest Easterly* said:

Cold dew points moving southeast...

By 3pm bulk of region has sufficent dew points,

thankfully the precip will arrive in more 'fertile' conditions for snow,

Some reports of heavy snow in the far north regional 

3PM -

No doubt if even half a mm falls in your region it'll make the national news with "Snowmaggeden" headlines.

[Blessed Weather]

5 minutes ago, Surrey said:

I fear for the Eastern areas on those charts... 

I agree about the far east of our Region - but I suddenly realised I don't know where the boundary is between our Region and the 'Midlands' and 'Central Southern' Regions. Anyone know please?

[Daniel*]

2 minutes ago, Surrey said:

I fear for the Eastern areas on those charts... 

6PM -

The mild sector seems to be just out to sea Norfolk coastal locations will most likely see just rain/sleet an onshore wind for them, so you'll need to be inland not greatly. In fact the parameters are quite good this evening for London, SE & EA - just need the precip to behave. It is fairly reminiscent to a winter day last winter? 

[Daniel*]

7 minutes ago, Blessed Weather said:

I agree about the far east of our Region - but I suddenly realised I don't know where the boundary is between our Region and the 'Midlands' and 'Central Southern' Regions. Anyone know please?

Between Green & Yellow bit is 'Central Southern'.

This should help  

[Kent Blizzard]

Wouldn't rule out an Ice Day Monday, -10 850Hpa's flirts close to the East, -6 925Hpa's with a continental airmass it's very much possible.

[chrisbell-nottheweatherman]

Snow shower here around half an hour ago, which was unexpected.  It didn't lay, but, given the conditions at present, I wasn't execting any more than sleet.

[alexisj9]

35 minutes ago, Surrey said:

Also a little tip for people, you can tell how cold the DP is and air temp buy how quickly things dry out on the ground, it makes no sense I know but the lower the DP quicker things dry out (dryer air at cold temps)

Still wet from last night here.

[Coopsy]

Good ol rain here in east London right now...no surprises yet

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27 minutes ago, Earnest Easterly* said:

6PM -

The mild sector seems to be just out to sea Norfolk coastal locations will most likely see just rain/sleet an onshore wind for them, so you'll need to be inland not greatly. In fact the parameters are quite good this evening for London, SE & EA - just need the precip to behave. It is fairly reminiscent to a winter day last winter? 

Warm sector is easily visible on that chart, I have outlined it here..

 

 

[alexisj9]

Temp here now is 3.4 with a dp of 1.8.

So colder than forecast for today so far, 6 which may bold well for later, depending on dp and precipitation.

[Kent Blizzard]

Way to early to be worrying about Dps imo, count the amount of times they have tumbled or risen in a short space of time.

Reason I say this is because I remember a time ( can't remember the year ) when we was set for snow, the charts showed -2 dps yet when it arrived the Dps were +3

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[alexisj9]

5 minutes ago, Kent Blizzard said:

Way to early to be worrying about Dps imo, count the amount of times they have tumbled or risen in a short space of time.

Reason I say this is because I remember a time ( can't remember the year ) when we was set for snow, the charts showed -2 dps yet when it arrived the Dps were +3

Yep happens to us all the time, all depends on where that warm sector ends up when the ppn arrives, before that doesn't matter one bit.

[Daniel*]

19 minutes ago, Surrey said:

Warm sector is easily visible on that chart, I have outlined it here..

 

 

Do not agree with you there..sub zero DP in Thames Estuary? 

The area circled in black I feel will be the least likely to see snow based on humble GFS, of course if it is further west than the mild sector will correspond, we'll just have to see.

 

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3 minutes ago, Earnest Easterly* said:

Do not agree with you there..sub zero DP in Thames Estuary? 

The area circled in black I feel will be the least likely to see snow based on humble GFS, of course if it is further west than the mild sector will correspond, we'll just have to see.

 

Would add that models don't take into account wind direction and SSTs when predicting temp and DP

[East_England_Stormchaser91]

Been snowing steadily here for the past half hour!! 

[snow freak]

even when we get the cold we still have rain, albeit colder rain.  typical crappy UK weather.

[Daniel*]

Looking at the radar I definitely think there's scope for East Anglia and perhaps & Kent to see something quite significant surprised there are no warnings.

 A lot of precipitation and it's not light either, slowly going SSE?

[Ben Lewis]

Even if conditions are OK for snow this afternoon in my location it looks like a 'miss' from that ppn moving south. 

Eastern counties might get a surprise later - Essex, Suffolk, Norfolk and east Kent 

[Biggin]

I am wondering with the current eastward drift of the system whether some will even see any precipitation at all??

[Alpine glow]

1 minute ago, Earnest Easterly* said:

Looking at the radar I definitely think there's scope for East Anglia and perhaps & Kent to see something quite significant surprised there are no warnings.

 A lot of precipitation and it's not light either, slowly going SSE?

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

 

so is all this PPN snow?  It looks like we (and probably not me) may get a chance as temps and dp's drop.

[Blessed Weather]

2 minutes ago, Alpine glow said:

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

 

so is all this PPN snow?  It looks like we (and probably not me) may get a chance as temps and dp's drop.

Use the Netweather Radar and turn the "Weather Type" at the top of the map to "On". Shows rain blue, sleet green and snow pink.