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  • Location: Kirkburton, Huddersfield - 162.5mtrs asl.
  • Weather Preferences: Winter synoptics.Hot summers.
  • Location: Kirkburton, Huddersfield - 162.5mtrs asl.

Snow moving down the country Sat pm

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  • Location: Dorset
  • Location: Dorset
3 minutes ago, icykev said:

The period of interest for me now is +144 late next week. Low pressure looking to make inroads deepening as it approaches UKMO 144

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GEM looking to bring in the low pressure system @156

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Causes severe weather and snow as it stalls and disrupts against the cold. Any thoughts on it possibly becoming a named storm, as by this time it will have already become dangerously cold. Similar to storm Emma in Feb 2018.

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Resulting in thisgem-16-186.thumb.png.03cdd007edc0b8abc2a909982cec4a57.png

Storm Emma 2018

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Lets see what happens on the 12z✌❄

Not the low missing south west it needs to shift south more 

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  • Location: Kirkburton, Huddersfield - 162.5mtrs asl.
  • Weather Preferences: Winter synoptics.Hot summers.
  • Location: Kirkburton, Huddersfield - 162.5mtrs asl.

Already signs of a streamer aligning all the way across the North sea

I have seen the formation before eminating from the Baltic sea in a North Easterly 

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  • Location: Hampstead / Cambridge
  • Location: Hampstead / Cambridge

marginal gains for inland eastern areas on the icon, albeit with questionable uppers

00z: 

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06Z: 

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  • Location: Cambridge
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, snow, heat, sunshine and thunderstorms. Anything severe.
  • Location: Cambridge

Only 3 days until lift off now. I still can’t believe that it’s actually happening!❄️

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  • Location: Stoke on Trent
  • Location: Stoke on Trent
5 minutes ago, icykev said:

The period of interest for me now is +144 late next week. Low pressure looking to make inroads deepening as it approaches UKMO 144

UW144-21.thumb.gif.98b3d99192ad6ff721cc2d5575b9fb59.gif

GEM looking to bring in the low pressure system @156

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Causes severe weather and snow as it stalls and disrupts against the cold. Any thoughts on it possibly becoming a named storm, as by this time it will have already become dangerously cold. Similar to storm Emma in Feb 2018.

anim_jkd1.gif

Resulting in thisgem-16-186.thumb.png.03cdd007edc0b8abc2a909982cec4a57.png

Storm Emma 2018

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Lets see what happens on the 12z✌❄

To be honest that is further North than Storm Emma mate. Believe it got as far North as Stone but completely missed Stoke Northwards.

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  • Location: Woking
  • Weather Preferences: Anything unusual works for me...!
  • Location: Woking
3 minutes ago, icykev said:

The period of interest for me now is +144 late next week. Low pressure looking to make inroads deepening as it approaches UKMO 144

UW144-21.thumb.gif.98b3d99192ad6ff721cc2d5575b9fb59.gif

GEM looking to bring in the low pressure system @156

gem-0-156.thumb.png.1dd63f12a6d2fe000f8aef854e5dfb41.png

Causes severe weather and snow as it stalls and disrupts against the cold. Any thoughts on it possibly becoming a named storm, as by this time it will have already become dangerously cold. Similar to storm Emma in Feb 2018.

anim_jkd1.gif

Resulting in thisgem-16-186.thumb.png.03cdd007edc0b8abc2a909982cec4a57.png

Storm Emma 2018

EUROPE_PRMSL_HGT500_2018_3_2_0.thumb.jpg.be12c528c4f166c841f44f2c7016e564.jpg

Lets see what happens on the 12z✌❄

It's hard to believe the low will remain as tight and organised as it is presently modelled. But it isn't impossible, so a named storm is a real possibility. Could be a three-way tussle for naming rights though. It might be interesting to look back at the starting conditions for Emma.

I am 100% confident we'll get a "snow bomb" headline from the Daily Mail though...

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  • Location: Hampstead / Cambridge
  • Location: Hampstead / Cambridge
Just now, Frosty Winter said:

Only 3 days until lift off now. I still can’t believe that it’s actually happening!❄️

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A slight upgrade for inland areas against the 00z run again, which is a relief. 

Sunday afternoon 00z: 

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Sunday afternoon 06z: 

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This is what the big globals have been showing and is what we want for more widespread action on Sunday. Seeing it on a shorter-ranger is very encouraging...

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  • Location: Bedfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, plumes, snow, severe weather
  • Location: Bedfordshire

06z ICON vs 12z ICON:

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Latest run pushes the snow a tad further west.

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  • Location: Godalming
  • Location: Godalming
13 minutes ago, craigore said:

Whys it showing rain in East Kent.

Surely the uppers are more than cold enough to produce snow by then even in coastal areas.. 

There is a small warm sector that keeps cropping up.. Should be out of the way by monday evening.

 

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  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea
  • Weather Preferences: Warm, bright summers and Cold, snowy winters
  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea

Ice day sunday for much of the UK.

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Same for monday.

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GFS still under does temps I believe however? Unless that has changed?

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  • Location: Ramsgate,East Kent.
  • Weather Preferences: BEASTERLYS
  • Location: Ramsgate,East Kent.
1 minute ago, Notty said:

GFS // agrees

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Still concerning how close the milder uppers over France are..bit to close for comfort.

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  • Location: Rogerstone/Risca South Wales
  • Weather Preferences: Blizzards in winter Hot and sunny in summer...other is simply boring!!
  • Location: Rogerstone/Risca South Wales

image.thumb.png.2cd1b61c1fc2ca1cc9f922d0d6a3372f.pngThe Low that keeps on giving ...just hanging around four hours!!!!

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  • Location: Jarrow,Tyne & Wear
  • Weather Preferences: All extreme weather especially cold and snow!
  • Location: Jarrow,Tyne & Wear
1 minute ago, craigore said:

Still concerning how close the milder uppers over France are..bit to close for comfort.

That's the risk that could bring greater rewards though.

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  • Location: North London
  • Location: North London
2 minutes ago, craigore said:

Still concerning how close the milder uppers over France are..bit to close for comfort.

Definitely, it's making me itch, hoping for it to be moved further south on the next runs

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