Jump to content
Snow?
Local
Radar
Cold?
IGNORED

Snow & Ice coverage in the Northern Hemisphere Winter 2021/22


Recommended Posts

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

Another update,,,

Snow has increased as expected in Europe, and continues to expand in North America -

image.thumb.png.0fc5c04d811a286ba0a96839ad4d2498.png

 

Masie sea ice (as expected) with the changes in weather conditions has completely stalled.

Masie total sea ice is now 11,428K Km2 after 4 days changes of (-1K, +24K, +`13K and today -5K).

As I expected the new low entering the Bering Ocean aligned itself North South at the western entrance to the straits. This pulled gale force southerly winds into the area and resulted in an ice pile up on the Eastern (US) side, but pushed the ice pack into Chukchi on the SIberian side. This resulted in a net loss of (-98K) for Bering.

Elsewhere Barents (-7K) lost slightly, but Kara (+7K) held up quite well.

Very cold air over Scandinavia resulted in a doubling  of ice in the Baltic (+8K).

latest-full-color-ice-chart.pdf (fmi.fi)

https://cdn.fmi.fi/marine-observations/products/ice-charts/latest-full-color-ice-chart.pdf

Greenland ended up level, with large swings, but helped by a freeze on the Western side.

Baffin (+4K) changed little, but the biggest gainer, (as expected) was Hudson Bay (+95K) as cold air flooded the area from the West. 

So where to next?  I think we will see a continued growth in Hudson and Baffin, and now that the low in Bering has flattened (again) I can see cold air sweeping south again with Bering and also the SOO taking off again.

 

image.thumb.png.75db872d45af39263bdc3fe922f0c83e.png       image.thumb.png.5cc30424588a41f0a1ad9069f926602c.png 

 

Ozone hole still present to the  east of Greenland,but Ozone continues to build a wave over the Barents Sea

image.thumb.png.42f032bbcb14bdb8ec8f0a154ae7343d.png 

MIA

 

 

 

 

Edited by Midlands Ice Age
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: pelsall, 500ft asl (west mids)
  • Location: pelsall, 500ft asl (west mids)

Great to see all of Scandinavia covered in snow 

And a very healthy amount of ice 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Coatbridge, Scotland 129 m
  • Weather Preferences: snow in winter,warm sun in summer!!!!
  • Location: Coatbridge, Scotland 129 m
On 07/12/2021 at 22:47, nobble said:

Great to see all of Scandinavia covered in snow 

And a very healthy amount of ice 

Scandinavia looks like it will get a lot milder 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Midwest
  • Location: Midwest

Storminess the first week in December resulted in a 30% decrease in Bering Sea sea ice extent in five days in

@NSIDC

multi-sensor high-resolution MASIE data. However, #seaice extent still well above the 15-year median

 

FGG50iJUUAA05pb.thumb.jpeg.0abb8caac3b63e73a382dc2b3a36b60c.jpeg

 

8th ranked coldest November on record for the state. KNOM

 

 

FGGPrz3WQAEGajy.thumb.png.6caec2f7271ad9e6d1c85db9ed6b2af9.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
On 07/12/2021 at 23:26, johncam said:

Scandinavia looks like it will get a lot milder 

Thanks John....

Which charts are you seeing this on?

I have given below the C.R. (GFS charts) for today and 3 days time - Nothing remotely like 'a lot milder' in these.

I will agree to a bit less cold though..

Todays -

image.thumb.png.389e247c6d2ef9891040673ea1390b1b.png   image.thumb.png.e9aeab517a53e1086eda9c648a1970a7.png     image.thumb.png.4e68260f141638608dad747e8944b1c0.png

 

and the above shows todays  'anomaly,  the 'average',  and the MAXIMUM temperatures.

Also shown below for 3days time -  (not the same order though!)

image.thumb.png.5d8bfe70d50f9c363cd405b8f9e477c3.png    image.thumb.png.91e6956b645a59f1427867e0911a22ef.png   image.thumb.png.9f26fba6a759733eb2fee78e303918e0.png 

 

 

   Whilst talking Arctic temperatures, I thought the current DMI all above 80 degrees temperature changes might be interesting to some people - 

image.thumb.png.8536aca9e3a01eeeff80f69cd5d7642b.png

As discussed prev there was a big increase (4C degrees over the weekend),  when the vicious low in Bering brought milder storms into Bering and Chukchi. This appears to have been reversed/stemmed  now as the temperature dropped back by 3C again yesterday. 

This mainly caused by  Eastern Siberia  now cooling off again, (see above charts) and this despite extreme Alaska still being a bit warmer in the short-term, but even there in 3days time it is expected to drop again.

Cold air now appears to be entrenched into the Arctic this year.

Funnily enough, if the UK gets a full on cross - Arctic blast this winter, then that may actually cause more warmth into  the polar regions?. 

 MIA 

 

Edited by Midlands Ice Age
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Coatbridge, Scotland 129 m
  • Weather Preferences: snow in winter,warm sun in summer!!!!
  • Location: Coatbridge, Scotland 129 m
On 09/12/2021 at 10:44, Midlands Ice Age said:

Thanks John....

Which charts are you seeing this on?

I have given below the C.R. (GFS charts) for today and 3 days time - Nothing remotely like 'a lot milder' in these.

I will agree to a bit less cold though..

Todays -

image.thumb.png.389e247c6d2ef9891040673ea1390b1b.png   image.thumb.png.e9aeab517a53e1086eda9c648a1970a7.png     image.thumb.png.4e68260f141638608dad747e8944b1c0.png

 

and the above shows todays  'anomaly,  the 'average',  and the MAXIMUM temperatures.

Also shown below for 3days time -  (not the same order though!)

image.thumb.png.5d8bfe70d50f9c363cd405b8f9e477c3.png    image.thumb.png.91e6956b645a59f1427867e0911a22ef.png   image.thumb.png.9f26fba6a759733eb2fee78e303918e0.png 

 

 

   Whilst talking Arctic temperatures, I thought the current DMI all above 80 degrees temperature changes might be interesting to some people - 

image.thumb.png.8536aca9e3a01eeeff80f69cd5d7642b.png

As discussed prev there was a big increase (4C degrees over the weekend),  when the vicious low in Bering brought milder storms into Bering and Chukchi. This appears to have been reversed/stemmed  now as the temperature dropped back by 3C again yesterday. 

This mainly caused by  Eastern Siberia  now cooling off again, (see above charts) and this despite extreme Alaska still being a bit warmer in the short-term, but even there in 3days time it is expected to drop again.

Cold air now appears to be entrenched into the Arctic this year.

Funnily enough, if the UK gets a full on cross - Arctic blast this winter, then that may actually cause more warmth into  the polar regions?. 

 MIA 

 

Thanks MIA  for the in depth reply,  if you look at all model temp charts going forward  then Scandinavia does get a lot milder than it is now and some have them in positive temps for a time but as you say if we get it cold in UK  from a northerly  it normally means  a southerly flow into the Arctic somewhere else .

 

Cheers 

John 

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Longton, Stoke-on-Trent.
  • Location: Longton, Stoke-on-Trent.

I think the milder conditions @johncam was referring to are where the models show WAA through the UK and up to our north east as high pressure/ridging develops. Possible followed by high pressure then migrating west/north west and pressure falling to the east which would result in Scandinavia cooling down again.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
20 hours ago, MattStoke said:

I think the milder conditions @johncam was referring to are where the models show WAA through the UK and up to our north east as high pressure/ridging develops. Possible followed by high pressure then migrating west/north west and pressure falling to the east which would result in Scandinavia cooling down again.

I think that is for the 'outlook' charts over on the ex MAD thread though Matt.

Depends which way the high goes   - to Griceland and its into the freezer for Scandy.

- sticks over the UK and yes they will get the WAA.

Basically its all to play for, for all of us in Europe!!

However, thats all 10 days away.

Meantime the weather will be cold and snowy for them, with the Baltic continuing its ice up.

http://www.smhi.se/oceanografi/istjanst/produkter/sstcolor.pdf

 

Meanwhile back on t'other side of Atlantic, Hudson Bay is finally undergoing a very rapid freeze up. 

 Back later with details.

MIA

 

Edited by Midlands Ice Age
  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

As promised earlier the snow and ice update for the last 3 days.

Snow continues to progress into Europe.

image.thumb.png.4738eca10afcc048fb77e7f98f19a1dc.png

Masie sea ice extent total now up to 11,632K Km2 - still at the top of the polls for the last few years.

image.thumb.png.cfd385c4cef1ac79e5ae8fee3a9ec853.png

As I have been suggesting the emphasis for further increases has now switched to the outer areas.

The North American continent has just moved to the forefront right on time after the slow down (temporary?) of Russian ice development.

Hudson Bay is now going for full-scale freeze with increases of (+112K, +63K and +30K),  Baffin is more sedate with a total of (+43K).   

Over in Russia Kara (-16K) has stalled by Severnia Island, and Bering is still recuperating after it was blasted last week (+7K).

The SOO is now moving into freeze up mode now with gains of (-1K, +11K and +3K).

The only other area of interest is Barents (+11K, -12K and +28K).

 Other areas are now more or less static.

 Barents, Bering , Chukchi  and Baltic are still way ahead of the last few years, whereas Hudson is in catch up mode now.

image.thumb.png.b32144e0cc9cf6f6454c2259cc36744e.png  image.thumb.png.998b9c22a53961da77d7b15584ca8217.png    image.thumb.png.d4abc081e1c8da2571380515a778ba79.png

 

image.thumb.png.8fae34d3d54a04966e271d8b988b3afb.png               image.png

Extent and area appear to be heading for inter-decile highs this year. Interest should next switch to volume and ice thickness in order to see any sign off the development of multi year ice. 

 image.thumb.png.35a82c4d6522ac1749d88a0319430ffa.png                                  

Meanwhile the Ozone wave continues to increase in intensity over the Bering Ocean and is starting to move into North America.

It is going to be interesting to see if this either disrupts the strat to trop joining of the Polar Vortex. Also whether or not it could [possibly be a component in any strat Arctic warming in the North American sector. All for the future.

image.thumb.png.2ec7f41dece40b161b1e3c88923333c3.png

 

MIA

 

 

image.png

Edited by Midlands Ice Age
  • Like 4
  • Thanks 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Poole, Dorset 42m ASL
  • Location: Poole, Dorset 42m ASL

As of yesterday

image.thumb.png.eb6eba18c7197aa1b26383cd4ff44f37.png

And for the USA
image.thumb.png.9a378a3748cad01f67e209eecc4fcc2e.png

Northern South Dakota, looks a tad green, meanwhile Arizona ski centres are open and enjoying decent snowfall, with more expected this week, and Telluride in southern Colorado has had some good snow over the weekend

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

A further update (and the review into ice volumes)  that I promised yesterday..

Snow (yesterdays update) gradually increasing in Europe, but still thawing in more central areas,.

image.thumb.png.9d6cde9c1d4deeacf16e35244e4a986f.png 

Meantime today's Masie increases extent by +73K Km2 to a total over 12M KM2,      at 12,061K Km2.

This ice season could be heading for a maximum in 3 months time of over 15M Km2. The first to do so since 2014 reached 15,400K Km2  in early March.

Today's increases were quite interesting.

 Kara increased (+22K) by virtue of the ice gap between Severnia Island and the mainland being closed off. Only a small section of Kara is now left for its refreeze.  (see below).

Although, in the area,  Barents and Greenland lost (-8K and -31K), due to adverse (southerly) winds,  the Baltic (+16K) behaved very erratically and formed a 'bridge' at the entrance to the Gulf of  Finland, something that may be an error as I have never seen it happen before.

aysw8mfvg0uq1kt?preserve_transparency=Fa
WWW.DROPBOX.COM

Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again!

 

(Use the zoom function to see clearly.)

Elsewhere, Hudson (+27K) continued increasing and has now started moving into Hudson Strait, on its way out to the Baffin Seas. (+29K).

ekc9a9fqtr1qhm5?preserve_transparency=Fa
WWW.DROPBOX.COM

Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again!

Bering sea ice continued its merry way with an increase of (+15K), and weather forecasts in the area mean that a continued freeze in the area will now continue.

 

 

Onto  DMI thickness and volume charts latest status. (as promised)

Here,  I have been comparing the DMI ice volume charts for the last 3 months, and whilst the ice thickness maps have moved smoothly, the ice volumes appeared to have been  changed over the last month. This means that it is difficult to say how this seasons volumes have changed. This change has appeared at a time when PIOMAS has not been published so it is very difficult to state what is happening.

The situation seems to have changed sometime towards the end of November - Actually 8th December.

See my volume graph from 22/11/2021,  as I published on here, and compare with the latest (today's chart).

On the first earlier graph, the period pre' Nov 22nd shows this years line as being above the line for 2017 (red line) for most of the previous 2 months. The same is mostly true for 2018 (green line).

However, a view of the second graph (today's date) shows the current year below these 2 years for nearly all the period. Also the volume is shown as being below the average for the last 10 years.

Data collected on 22/11/2021, and shown in here -                                                               

gpvpmqvx8g6jaov?preserve_transparency=Fa
WWW.DROPBOX.COM

Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again!

 Data collected today -

image.thumb.png.443113ca6b4fe2d91fbb035b175e00a7.png

Now I am unaware of any changes to the data used by DMI, although they have updated their HYCOM-CICE model on 8th December,  (which adjusts for things like pond pools, and for the movement of ice  around the Greenland coast).

I was unaware that they would retrospectively adjust all their data, and that it would have such a dramatic result on this years data.

Also of note is that the model does not use Baltic or Pacific Ocean sea ice in its calculations, so any increases there will not show up in their data. 

 

There is talk that a switch to a different satellite recording system  (CryoSat 2 SMOS) system, is now being suggested,

(see below for charts) thanks to ASIF...

image.thumb.png.5904edc13bbe32f1717e834cddf398b3.png

So, without knowing whether DMI have switched their input,  it is difficult to make rationale comparisons of the 2 different systems. 

That leaves us short of correct ice thickness data.

 MIA

 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Walsall England UK
  • Weather Preferences: cold winters
  • Location: Walsall England UK

To MIA. Electroverse had something to say on this ice thickness DATA change at the DMI.  He asked them about this but did not get a satisfactory answer.  

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

My how time passes..

Sea Ice extent has leapt ahead over the last 3 days

Masie sea ice extent now up to 12,568K Km2 after increases of .(+113K, 152K and 53K) over the last 3 days.

Normal growth is about 60K Km2 at this time of year. 

image.thumb.png.ac18a096ff5f9730973d376856a3d7ac.png 

The above is showing the latest spurt and that JAXA has now increased to 10th/ 11th in the last 15 years.

image.thumb.png.0ae92a53998d759b1dd89cc0db3efe3e.png         image.thumb.png.a7bb2ac7dc9ce83b27c816e97330c198.png      image.thumb.png.f17f46ad6e7adbda512dc7dc126d7a95.png 

 

 So what is causing this latest surge,?

Well Hudson ((7K, 104K and +87K)  has/is undergoing a fast refreeze now,  as I suggested previous would happen.

Also the SOO (+58K +10K and +74K) is also now freezing rapidly.  Bering is undergoing a stasis (-86K) as a depression moves past the entrance.

SOO in particular has a large area left unfrozen.

Elsewhere Kara is completely full and Barents (+19K) is now taking over the mantle with a large area to refreeze.

Both the SOO and Barents seem to be freezing rapidly now with a a lot of scope for future growth. 

Baffin (-7K) retracted after a growth spurt, but will soon joining Hudson in the Hudson Straits and can be expected to grow again. 

Baltic (+3K) started to recover again 

The  tables are below -

image.thumb.png.7fa6ff1b5a3f1f366d0204c9dc999cc1.pngimage.thumb.png.6def71230c436fcb41b5112753187827.pngimage.thumb.png.cae2e4b003e4506a8be0190b75881a91.png

image.thumb.png.bd2c76b8bea4913ba336a0207ffa08f4.pngimage.thumb.png.5c7e985585b0e350271970444e5e8c4c.png

We are still very early in the season for increases in the perimeter areas and they have 2 months left yet to expand, so it could well be that the magical 15,000 K Km2 could be achieved next year.

All now til Xmas. Have a good and healthy run up to Xmas.

MIA

 

 

  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

Arctic Sea Ice extent heading towards 21st century records...

My  Xmas greetings on Christmas Eve, with my last review of ice and snow before the break.

Snow coverage has now moved westwards into Eastern Europe, and is now at normal levels worldwide for the time of year.

image.thumb.png.21233dd207b1a8d7dabad812f6c168c4.png

 

It is the sea ice extent which is continuing its eye-catching performance this year.

SInce the last update Masie sea ice extent has advanced by 3 century breaks (normal is about 50K Km2 at this time of year).

The last 3 days recorded consistent increases of (+116K, +119K and +123K) to put us within 50K of being within the highest on record for the date for Masie  (12,915K Km2).  

Even Jaxa has moved to within 100K Km2 (see below) for this century.

image.thumb.png.bcccd3d9e7334fa6e41443078f788a46.png  for Masie and for Jaxa    image.thumb.png.23250e0e95475cee5b355caae7d2afe3.png(goes back to 2000)

More details here for anyone interested  in the previous years extents on Jaxa  -  (thanks to the ASIF).

image.thumb.png.0abcecaaf588be0dcc47802292acd3b2.png  which now sees it as 13th out of the last 17, but another century may well see it at 16th..

 

So why has this happened?

Well this year has had more consistent Arctic cold during the winter freeze season than for 10years.

image.thumb.png.0a708bdd7084776fc344c27a6423b83d.png

This enabled a rapid re-freeze for all the Arctic basin internal areas, with particularly strong ice growth in the stagnant (in the 10 years up to this year)  areas around the Russian Arctic.

By the end of November most of the basin was iced over.

However,  one of the peripheral areas - mainly the Eastern US - , had seen below average growth.

That is now  in the process of being corrected, and this is what has caused the rapid increase in the extent figures, and has allowed the numbers to rise well in to the very top of the range extents.

Hence the last 3 days have seen growth in Hudson (+185K) -  the bay is now 90% full -, and even the Hudson Straits are rapidly icing over as the temps drop below -30C. The Straits ice has now joined up with the ice moving down Baffin Ocean  (+67K), which itself has now started to freeze further south along the Newfoundland coastline. 

Elsewhere the increases have come about in the Barents Sea (+33K), which is moving South of Svalbard  now towards the East (towards the Severnia Islands) , and the SOO (+5K), even though the ice here is stalled partially at the moment, as it also has  in the Bering Sea (-2K).  These are the next 2 areas which one normally expects to increase in the next few weeks.

Also of interest is growth in the Baltic (+6K)  which is responding to cold Scandy temps this year (good for ice extent), and Greenland (+42K), which tends to be not quite so good. 

All in all, a very good winter refreeze season so far, with the early refreeze within the basin expected to see thicker ice come the summer melt, and who knows, possibly more multi year ice,  next year..

Further ice extent growth is less meaningful at this point in the year,as it will all melt out come the next 'melt' season.

For us to see improved ice extent figures from here on in,  we will have to see ice 'spread' in the perimeter areas of Baffin, Greenland, Barents, Bering and the SOO. There is a much improved chance of this occuring this year with the colder Arctic temperatures (still up be about 10C based upon last year).

But as with the weather in the UK,           nothing can be taken for granted.  

I shall now be reducing these reports to weekly, unless something of real interest pops up. 

So wishing you all seasons greetings and more particularly a very healthy New Year.

Happy ice watching......

MIA

 

  • Like 5
  • Thanks 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Nr Chelmsford, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: Hurricanes, Thunderstorms and blizzards please!
  • Location: Nr Chelmsford, Essex
49 minutes ago, Midlands Ice Age said:

Arctic Sea Ice extent heading towards 21st century records...

My  Xmas greetings on Christmas Eve, with my last review of ice and snow before the break.

Snow coverage has now moved westwards into Eastern Europe, and is now at normal levels worldwide for the time of year.

image.thumb.png.21233dd207b1a8d7dabad812f6c168c4.png

 

It is the sea ice extent which is continuing its eye-catching performance this year.

SInce the last update Masie sea ice extent has advanced by 3 century breaks (normal is about 50K Km2 at this time of year).

The last 3 days recorded consistent increases of (+116K, +119K and +123K) to put us within 50K of being within the highest on record for the date for Masie  (12,915K Km2).  

Even Jaxa has moved to within 100K Km2 (see below) for this century.

image.thumb.png.bcccd3d9e7334fa6e41443078f788a46.png  for Masie and for Jaxa    image.thumb.png.23250e0e95475cee5b355caae7d2afe3.png(goes back to 2000)

More details here for anyone interested  in the previous years extents on Jaxa  -  (thanks to the ASIF).

image.thumb.png.0abcecaaf588be0dcc47802292acd3b2.png  which now sees it as 13th out of the last 17, but another century may well see it at 16th..

 

So why has this happened?

Well this year has had more consistent Arctic cold during the winter freeze season than for 10years.

image.thumb.png.0a708bdd7084776fc344c27a6423b83d.png

This enabled a rapid re-freeze for all the Arctic basin internal areas, with particularly strong ice growth in the stagnant (in the 10 years up to this year)  areas around the Russian Arctic.

By the end of November most of the basin was iced over.

However,  one of the peripheral areas - mainly the Eastern US - , had seen below average growth.

That is now  in the process of being corrected, and this is what has caused the rapid increase in the extent figures, and has allowed the numbers to rise well in to the very top of the range extents.

Hence the last 3 days have seen growth in Hudson (+185K) -  the bay is now 90% full -, and even the Hudson Straits are rapidly icing over as the temps drop below -30C. The Straits ice has now joined up with the ice moving down Baffin Ocean  (+67K), which itself has now started to freeze further south along the Newfoundland coastline. 

Elsewhere the increases have come about in the Barents Sea (+33K), which is moving South of Svalbard  now towards the East (towards the Severnia Islands) , and the SOO (+5K), even though the ice here is stalled partially at the moment, as it also has  in the Bering Sea (-2K).  These are the next 2 areas which one normally expects to increase in the next few weeks.

Also of interest is growth in the Baltic (+6K)  which is responding to cold Scandy temps this year (good for ice extent), and Greenland (+42K), which tends to be not quite so good. 

All in all, a very good winter refreeze season so far, with the early refreeze within the basin expected to see thicker ice come the summer melt, and who knows, possibly more multi year ice,  next year..

Further ice extent growth is less meaningful at this point in the year,as it will all melt out come the next 'melt' season.

For us to see improved ice extent figures from here on in,  we will have to see ice 'spread' in the perimeter areas of Baffin, Greenland, Barents, Bering and the SOO. There is a much improved chance of this occuring this year with the colder Arctic temperatures (still up be about 10C based upon last year).

But as with the weather in the UK,           nothing can be taken for granted.  

I shall now be reducing these reports to weekly, unless something of real interest pops up. 

So wishing you all seasons greetings and more particularly a very healthy New Year.

Happy ice watching......

MIA

 

Thanks MIA, your updates are always extremely comprehensive and you provide some really good information. Have a great Christmas and I look forward to your next update.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Springfield, Chelmsford, Essex 30Mtr ASL
  • Weather Preferences: snowy or sunny but not too hot!
  • Location: Springfield, Chelmsford, Essex 30Mtr ASL
1 hour ago, Ice Day said:

Thanks MIA, your updates are always extremely comprehensive and you provide some really good information. Have a great Christmas and I look forward to your next update.

From another Chelmsfordian I concur with what you say. This thread is the first one I look for in the winter each time I access Netweather.

Thanks MIA (Dave) for your wonderful input. All the best to you and your family over the Festive period. I trust you and your wife are well.

Merry Christmas to you too ID and to all others who contribute to or read this thread.

Kind Regards

Dave

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
1 hour ago, claret047 said:

From another Chelmsfordian I concur with what you say. This thread is the first one I look for in the winter each time I access Netweather.

Thanks MIA (Dave) for your wonderful input. All the best to you and your family over the Festive period. I trust you and your wife are well.

Merry Christmas to you too ID and to all others who contribute to or read this thread.

Kind Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave

We are fine here, and I trust you are also OK.

Its been a tough year for us oldies.

But we look forward to another (hopefully better for all) year.

Dave 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

Latest news is worth a 2 day update.... 

** JAXA has now also hit the highest for 18 years.....  **

Yesterday JAXA hit the highest since the winter of 2003/4 when a near century gain (+94K Km2) overtook both 2006/7 and 2011/12.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, it had a small  drop today to move it back to 16th position.

Graphic thanks to the ASIF - 

image.thumb.png.0fd6b9344bdcaeed03df2fcff0028efc.png      image.thumb.png.7ca38b521616ae4fc67d4fb4b59e6de8.png

So we are left with just Masie to break through to the early 2000 records. It will be an all time high for Masie as it 'only' goes back to 2006(!!!). However it is very close and may well happen in the next few days. 

Currently we are seeing a 'dream scenario'  for ice growth.

This has seen the Central basin fill quickly, and now we seem to have transferred enough of the cold outside the basin (with perfect timing), to see quite a rapid rate of refreeze in the peripheral areas of Baffin, Bering, the S.O.O. and Barents.

All look to be refreezing at a steady rate, and looking forward to the next 10 days forecasts in Climate Reanalyser (GFS - so no guarantee!!, beware!),  I see that all the key areas above are forecast to have temperatures below the average, whilst the Central basin undergoes a slightly milder period (still with maxes around -20C, and minimums around -30C to -40C  though!).

Large parts of Siberia are this year, seeing the kind of temperatures they have been missing for a number of years. Minimums below -60C are being recorded almost daily, with daytime maxes above -40C quite widespread. 

A spill of the Arctic temperatures spilling out to the UK, is the only thing spoiling the party!!!!

So the new year still leaves me feeling quite optimistic that the years final maximum will be a large increase on the last decades very average performance.

 MIA

 

 

image.thumb.png.b81131299d3b1ac2c01ad7ada9702838.png    image.thumb.png.0f00a3a497dc7b526d7720ea49108c5c.png    image.thumb.png.0e41d6c8fa9cf35adbd1d0ad1a5532fc.png

Edited by Midlands Ice Age
  • Like 9
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl

AND....... ONE DAY LATER.... Masie breaks the 2010/11 barrier and as per today is also now at a record for the date.

That's all 3 data providers  that have broken their date records for the last 18 years, within the week.

Masie increased by a whopping (+198K Km2) today, following gains of (+55K,+34K, +24K, +22K and the 198K) in the  5 days, to give a date record of 13,618K Km2 - better than 2011/12 by (+22K).

As predicted, sea ice extent increased rapidly in Barents (+83K), as winds turned to the east or North East.

Also Baffin (+32K) -  which is now icing into the Labrador Sea.... 

Bering (+102K) also improved with Northerlies taking over, and the SOO (+37K) improved the oceanic icing.

Baltic also improved with a gain of (+15K) in the last 2 days. 

Smaller gains were recorded in  Greenland and the Yellow Sea (China) as it now starts to add ice.

image.thumb.png.56248eabf9f230ac9a190093d1ec7c72.png

Masie is now seeing growth of above 500K from the last 5 years ice refreeze.

This is all means that 15,000K Km2 is still a distinct possibility.

Despite the recent changes to the DMI ice thickness and volume model, it is clear that the ice thickness as still growing quickly in the Russian oceans with many places already recording depths of grater than 1.5 meters and still nearly 3 months of increase still to be recorded. It is not good that we have no thickness and volume reliable models to confirm.

image.thumb.png.9e8cb44a1a73aadc8cc861dad74b08da.png

MIA

 

  • Like 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted
  • Location: pelsall, 500ft asl (west mids)
  • Location: pelsall, 500ft asl (west mids)

Having followed this for 5/6 years

this is really exciting ice growth , be great to see this continue for the next 10/11 weeks .

be also good to see the Baltic fully freeze up then bring some north east winds to our shores .

it would be great to see favourable summer conditions to help keep as much as these gains as possible . 
from all the doom and pessimistic theories about the slow demise of ice continuing year on year , this is a real tonic although unexpected . 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Risk of thunderstorms overnight with lightning and hail

    Northern France has warnings for thunderstorms for the start of May. With favourable ingredients of warm moist air, high CAPE and a warm front, southern Britain could see storms, hail and lightning. Read more here

    Jo Farrow
    Jo Farrow
    Latest weather updates from Netweather

    UK Storm and Severe Convective Forecast

    UK Severe Convective & Storm Forecast - Issued 2024-05-01 08:45:04 Valid: 01/05/2024 0600 - 02/03/2024 0600 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH - 01-02 MAY 2024 Click here for the full forecast

    Nick F
    Nick F
    Latest weather updates from Netweather

    Warming up this week but looking mixed for Bank Holiday weekend

    In the sunshine this week, it will feel warmer, with temperatures nudging up through the teens, even past 20C. However, the Bank Holiday weekend is looking a bit mixed. Read the full update here

    Netweather forecasts
    Netweather forecasts
    Latest weather updates from Netweather
×
×
  • Create New...