Moans, ramps and banter

[In Absence of True Seasons]

 *Stormforce~beka* you're in Clagshire though. I swear you literally never have sun  

Edited February 11 by In Absence of True Seasons

[raz.org.rain]

Iberian highs continuing to demonstrate their persistence

 

[*Stormforce~beka*]

 In Absence of True Seasons I found a small scrap!

[East Lancs Rain]

 cheese Overcast but dry on this side of the Pennines, temp struggling today, currently at 6.7°C.

 

 *Stormforce~beka* The tiniest scrap of blue sky here lol. Blink and you’ll miss it.

Edited February 11 by East Lancs Rain

[TheOgre]

 cheese  Yeah that cold March/hot summer quirk is an interesting one.

Adding to the good spring/poor summer trend, 2020 was like that as well. After that stunning April and May we had that vile July. 
2023 similar too but a bit later with the great June (and May for the west) then the vile July.

[raz.org.rain]

ECMWF's long range for JJA doesn't seem all that inspiring

[Metwatch]

3 hours ago, HurricaneSteve said:

But what happened to: "Fog"

Had some this morning, and I think quite a few other areas had it last night but yes I think in winter it's getting less common as they become less settled.

In spring and early autumn when it's calmer, does still happen, but I guess it depends on how much high pressure dominates in months and seasons as a whole. Also need a lot of moisture for it to form as you say, so fog is usually most common under high pressure in winter or later autumn. Following rain and if it's calm in the same night, get fog like last night but that doesn't seem too frequent either.

Edited February 11 by Metwatch

[WYorksWeather]

For what it's worth, MOGREPS looks a bit bimodal towards the end. Relatively few 'average' runs around 0C at 850hPa, and quite a lot of cold or mild ones.

[Richard Lake]

Another badly forecasted weekend.. Saturday was meant to the best of the weekend, rode my bicycle all day from AM to PM and got wet on and off, nothing more than drizzle but pretty much as forecasted. By Saturday evening, about 7.45pm and about 5miles from where I parked my van at Woodhall Spa, were I would be spending my evening; it began raining, more than it had all day. From the moment I got in the van till maybe 6am in the morning it just rained continuously, nothing especially heavy, just constant!

After getting up and out the van many times for a wee; rain does this to me I finally woke next morning to more dullness and with another few hours of riding I expected the weather to be even wetter than the day before. Much to my surprise it didn't rain a drop further, in fact the sun came out near Belton, Grantham and I enjoyed a lovely tail wind all the way back to the van.

As an outdoorsy person the lesson I have learnt quickly from the weather forecast is a) expect the unexpected so always take a rain jacket and b) the weather is never nearly as bad the weather forecasters make it out to be or your mind thinks it's going to turn out.

Edited February 11 by Richard Lake

[WYorksWeather]

Briefly saw a bit of daylight this morning when I went out this morning. By afternoon of course, back to grey skies.

[Richard Lake]

Oh yeah the sunshine made a very brief visit, but gave you a sense of Spring being around the corner - but the cold wind reminds you we are only in mid-winter.

[SLEETY]

and here comes the change to winter again  as winter ends,

[swfc]

 SLEETY . Epic charts via a phantom ssw bringing 47 cold 

[raz.org.rain]

 SLEETY we all know how this'll end. Massively watered down to an average spell of chilly wet weather. Hopefully those Iberian highs prove to be stronger than expected and keep the cold away.

[In Absence of True Seasons]

 *Stormforce~beka* I'm proud

[Chasbrown]

 raz.org.rain well they've managed to block out the cold for the past 3 months!

[raz.org.rain]

 Chasbrown if those Iberian highs continue to perform throughout summer then they can have Gibraltar back as a thank you present!

[East Lancs Rain]

 HurricaneSteve Yes I’ve noticed we don’t get as much fog these days even compared to 10 years ago. Probably due to less pollution, low emissions etc. I remember we used to get some days in winter where it would be foggy all day.
 

The winds have been very light this weekend though, at least here anyway. Not a lot of sunshine though, a little bit yesterday, none today.

[raz.org.rain]

 East Lancs Rain the fogs of the 1950s in London were reported to be lethal due to how much pollution was mixed in with it

[Dark Horse]

 East Lancs Rain funny thing is where I am in Manchester fog is pretty rare and it's a polluted suburb let me tell ya, you can sometimes smell it as you leave the house. Numerous busy main A and B roads, M60 that cuts through it too. South and west Manchester gets a lot more fog than here with them being even lower down. I'm in a funny place, below the snow but above the fog. Although it is a frost pocket due to cold spilling down off the Pennines.

Edited February 12 by Dark Horse

[MP-R]

 TheOgre I find this quirk is a bit like the warm September / naff winter link. Works a lot of the time, but too many contra examples. Likewise, not all warm Marches lead to poor summers… 2022, 2014 and 2003 come to mind.

Edit: just to add, you rarely get a good March and a good May.

Edited February 12 by MP-R

[East Lancs Rain]

 MP-R I don’t think there’s ever been a cold winter after a warm September though. Correct me if I’m wrong.

4 hours ago, SLEETY said:

and here comes the change to winter again  as winter ends,

Yes, it’ll be Sod’s Law we get a cold March and/or April with winters weather at times but for coldies it will be too little too late, and also annoying for people who want spring weather. A bit like the 1 week of hot weather at the start of September after a poor July and a mediocre August.

[raz.org.rain]

5 minutes ago, East Lancs Rain said:

s, it’ll be Sod’s Law we get a cold March and/or April with winters weather at times but for coldies it will be too little too late, and also annoying for people who want spring weather. A bit like the 1 week of hot weather at the start of September after a poor July and a mediocre August.

If we do get a cold spell I can't imagine it'd stick around for long, based on the track record of winter so far. Most likely it'll deliver a few days of slightly colder than average, inevitably rain, before a southerly element pierces through again. The BFTE comparisons are growing tiresome as there's simply no support for it. We don't have the same buildup of significant cold to our east that we did back then.

[cheese]

 East Lancs Rain tbf the hot weather in early September definitely wasn't too little, too late - at least for me. I'm still in summer mode until late September.

 Dark Horse I would say that fog is pretty common in Leeds, especially in spring when we get high pressure and a slack easterly flow. I tend to associate warm/hot weather in spring with foggy mornings and sunny afternoons. 

Edited February 12 by cheese

[SunSean]

The first Spring like morning with a pleasant temperature, sunshine, birds singing and an all round uplifting feel. Unfortunately looking like being the last for a while though as we are plunged back into Maraianas trench levels of light again from tomorrow so better make the most of today!