Moans, ramps and banter

[I remember Atlantic 252]

for you in Devon yes, but for me that chart looks vile, cold wind and north sea mist

in minority I'm aware, but without doubt A, 

Edited March 24 by I remember Atlantic 252

[markyo]

11 minutes ago, baddie said:

If you was to have the following for March/April, what would you choose

A. An extension of winter
B. An eternal autumn

With out doubt A. Mainly because we haven't had a Winter yet!

[Arctic Hare]

 baddie Either will do if they're the bright type. Neither will do if they simply mean weeks on end of murk and drizzle.

[cheese]

March is looking set to be the 9th consecutive wetter than average month here. Absolutely ridiculous. 

Although August was only wetter than average by like 2mm lol. 

Edited March 24 by cheese

[baddie]

 cheese What about January??? That was bang on average for rainfall

[cheese]

 baddie January was still slightly wetter than average here. Not a washout like December or November though.

Edited March 24 by cheese

[CryoraptorA303]

1 hour ago, stainesbloke said:

Forecast showing low 20’s next weekend

A warm Easter? Begins Sun dance

 TwisterGirl81 Funnily enough I'd put Chivenor or Treknow as the most likely places to see the highest temps with that setup.

 I remember Atlantic 252 You'd actually be quite sheltered from that, the west of England would see the highest temps in this setup. Here in Kent we'd likely fail to reach 20°C unless the air was really warm to the point of seeing mid-20s further west and the easterly was weak, or if like a couple of times in April 2009 the easterly was perfectly positioned for Kent to be sheltered from it.

 cheese Correct me if it was different for further north, but here the vast majority of January's rainfall fell in the first week as a hangover of the absolutely disgusting December. Discounting the first ~5 days of January, East Malling would've seen only 19.6mm of rainfall which would make 2024 a very dry January here (our average is ~51mm), probably the driest in recent times.

Edited March 24 by CryoraptorA303

[baddie]

 CryoraptorA303 3rd December 2023 - 2nd January 2024 registered 200mm of rain. Horrific totals. I agree January was actually a decent one after that. I wonder if the non stop zonal pattern will continue into April making it another washout month, perhaps even wetter and duller than April 2012

[CryoraptorA303]

2 minutes ago, baddie said:

3rd December 2023 - 2nd January 2024 registered 200mm of rain

2 minutes ago, baddie said:

perhaps even wetter and duller than April 2012

I f**king hope not!

Recent runs appear to support a less zonal run for early April at least, so hopefully we don't see the same bull that we've had from February to mid-March repeat.

Is it too much to ask that we just have a vaguely normal month anymore?

[cheese]

 CryoraptorA303 Aye, it was similar here - of the 62mm that fell in January, 43mm fell on just three days. From the 3rd to the 28th we had very little rain. 

Jan certainly wasn't a terrible month by any means. 

Edited March 24 by cheese

[baddie]

 CryoraptorA303 March 2024 was basically February 2024s twin so far, but I wouldnt put this March as bad as last March

[NEVES SCREAMER]

 SunnyG With you there chap. The cold just has debilitating effect on my mental state. I can't help it but just hate the feeling of it. Cold hands. Cold feet. Can't get warm despite the radiators on. Give me a tropical evening still at 26c at 9pm anytime. 

[CryoraptorA303]

 baddie Totally agree, March 2023 from memory had zero days of sunshine at all, this March has somehow managed to beat it by having about a week's worth of days where the Sun came out for at least a couple of hours. Today has been particularly pleasant, I can't recall a single day in March 2023 where the Sun stayed out for more than about 30 minutes, truly an abysmal month.

March 2023 saw over 100mm of rain at East Malling which will not be reached this month. While we will still be significantly above average we will likely max out at somewhere in the 70-80mm region. The main issue with this March is how intense the storms were in the first week or two and how much water was already on the ground. After the bone dry February, this was not a concern going into March 2023.

 cheese Wow, that's even more extreme than here. But yes, the storms in the first week of January were particularly intense, before most of the month saw next to no rainfall at all due to the Euro high above us for most of the month. Then in early February the onslaught resumed and it's been hell ever since, although from mid-March it has been significantly better to be fair. I remain optimistic that much drier times are ahead.

 NEVES SCREAMER I think you should see a doctor if you still feel cold in ~13-15°C ambient conditions with the heating on, you may have an endocrine issue. Even my nan who is 1. elderly and has a low body temperature and 2. is a massive warmie and has been her entire life doesn't feel cold in those conditions.

[NEVES SCREAMER]

 CryoraptorA303 No idea what you mean by that. Are you saying the entire winter was levelled at 13c to 15c. Because there were some spells of cold with temperatures way below that. Anyway. 13c is cold and in no way can be described as 'warm'. 

[CryoraptorA303]

 NEVES SCREAMER No, I'm saying you stated you still felt "freezing cold" this month, even in the heating, and your area has been going at a fairly solid 13-15°C daily max. It is not really normal to still feel cold in the heating at these temperatures, and I am genuinely concerned for your health. This could be an indication of serious hypothyroidism. Please get a health check from a doctor.

[NEVES SCREAMER]

 CryoraptorA303 Only I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. And don't make lazy assumptions. How do you know how someone else feels ?  My health is fine. As it happens a few days have been recorded between 13c and 15c. In the last week. No other time between December and February. Happy for you to share the dates on which they occured.

[SummerShower]

 SunSean and for that to occur over a weekend as well..  Let's hope this is the trend this year, unlike a period last year where weekends seemed to fair much worse

[SummerShower]

 baddie an extension of winter.  

Colder marches and April's tend to be sunny at least, with polar maritime airmasses.

If someone said I'd have to take March 2013 and April 2021 for example, over March 2023 and April 2012 I'd take the former no issues!

[Azazel]

 CryoraptorA303

 

I don’t think it’s that weird to feel cold at 13-15 degrees ambient temp with the heating on to be honest.

[NEVES SCREAMER]

 Azazel I feel warm at about 25c !

[Azazel]

 NEVES SCREAMER same haha which is why I always say 25 is like the perfect temperature! 

[Alderc 2.0]

 CryoraptorA303 very presumptuous of you really. Was 14C here today and I needed a coat and I’d happily wear a coast in 16-20C if it was breezy. 
 

At the end of the day we’re all different but I think most people don’t start ditching the coats for extended stays outside until at least 16-18C - depending on sun and wind. 
 

 

[Alderc 2.0]

 NEVES SCREAMER  25C is lovely it’s just it’s never 25C for long, if that the max of the day you might get an hour or two at that before it starts cooling off. 

[NEVES SCREAMER]

 Alderc 2.0 Agree in UK you have early morning cool building up to the max. Then the same after 6pm. In this country you take what you can get

[raz.org.rain]

 NEVES SCREAMER careful what you wish for, I reckon this summer could break the record for tropical nights personally.

 

As for March, I have to say it's significantly better than March last year. That's quite the feat considering how boring this March has been.