JeffC

would you mind which bit of Spain as long as it has snow?

Not sure how relevant this is but see below https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/10hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-20.19,89.15,327/loc=107.194,59.469 showing an area significantly warmer than surroundings at 10 Hpa....

Aye Fair enough re provenance of Amber warning, but we do seem to struggle as a society with the slightest of difficulties...

Well done! We've got nowt but hail showers atm...

Well maybe it says as much about us as a society these days with our (in)ability to cope with a bit of adversity as it does about ....anything else?

No disrespect but why is 2-4" of snow worthy of an Amber warning? Sorry maybe I've got a skewed view but why is that such a biggy? Hells bells that was a shower in 1947 or 1963!! Bunch of bloody wooses whoever decides this!

Oh, we managed about an hour's worth of snow in Coniston mid afternoon...started to settle...then the shower ran out of steam!

We can but pray it meets up with that area of heights opposite and it sends the PV into a tizz!

Ha! aye you'll have camped at Coniston Hall or maybe even Spoon Hall? Sun's my local, although the Ship is pretty good! Tend not to go down into the village quite so much now as it's uphill with eleventeen pints of milk of amnesia on board! Where our houses are now, used to be just wasteland when I was a nipper, so we used it as a playground until the houses were built in 1981/2. There's effectively nowt left of the station as such, but some of the bridges are still there and what is now the car park was the slate wharfe.

Just to give some perspective on the visibility difference...

aye - just along from there, where the railway station used to be. Well done!

and after almost half an hour of trying, like I said getting its act together a bit - just starting to settle and normally I can see Grizedale Forest about a mile away over the lake - visibility now approx. 1/4 mile max...

Lol - in Coniston we're more Lancastrian than Marra's, don't forget until they created Cumbria out of Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire North of the Sands in 1974, we were Lancashire, just like you! in Fact Coniston Old Man was the highest point in Lancashire...

Just started to throw a shower of ....snow! a lot of blowing in the wind rather than settling but looks like it's getting it's act together a la'al bit!

Depends exactly where you are, we don't seem to fare too badly in Coniston... 29th Dec was reasonable...

Agreed, or at least that's what I thought, so reduced zonality perhaps but not convincing meridonality....

Is that v slow? ~50 Km/h so 30 mph...?

At least we know to tie the bins down again! They won't float away that way either, so if they're roughly where they started we know where to dig them out later!!.....

Blimey, you're getting in among the frosts this winter compared to normal winters?!

am just in it, but as I'm travelling to Glasgow this evening should come out of it Penrith way!

Well looking at those model outputs from Frosty, should they verify even roughly then I would expect to see some wintriness Western Highlands, Lakes, Pennines North Wales and probably to low levels in these areas dependent upon exactly how the temperatures verify. So from a North West perspective I'd anticipate west of the Pennines, in a line maybe North and West of the Cheshire Gap ?

I'd settle for 30" if the snow Gods want to spread the other 5" elsewhere! ?

Yeah, don't get me wrong, we did very nicely out of Nov / Dec 2010 with heavy snow coming from the NE, but we usually fair better snow wise from either battleground scenario - ppn coming in from W/SW into cold air already embedded or wrap around lows dragging colder air in with back edge snow, especially in the valleys - the tops usually get the wintry stuff as standard! The PM shot the NWP models are suggesting would be relatively rare these days - with any potency at least, and it looks like it may be more likely to deliver more widely than usual events of this nature more recently.

I believe you can get a cream for that! As regards how the models are shaping up (I've only really taken more than passing interest since winters of 09/10 and 10/11, but the winters seemed to fall over a bit except for later 12/13 and of course March 13, all as a result of SSW) but am I right in thinking this potential PM flow is more akin to what we used to see when I was younger? I'm 50 now and seem to remember that our "regular" colder weather used to come from that direction rather than always looking East?

At least it shows the double glazing unit is quite efficient!!?