Long haul to mild

Going to be hard to tell; the Euro 4 charts earlier suggested little or nothing for Suffolk / Essex but then another chart (NMM) says we could get lucky! I can't keep up; guess it's a case of keeping an eye on the radar.....

Maybe there's hope for me after all lol. Interesting that the NMM has virtually nothing in The Wash, which is the area the Euro4 fancies. Going to be a nowcast event.......

Looks like Suffolk and Essex are not the places to be in the SE tonight if you want snow! In this neck of the woods this cold spell has amounted to some sleet, and a dusting that melted within 20 minutes. Looking grim for later in the week with more talk of a "wintry mix" again. I'll take the positives though, snow messes with my bike rides to work! Hope a few in the region get to see something tonight though ☺

When I see this as shown on the Met Office app for Wednesday this week, I feel like giving up. I don't think I can take another "wintry mix"! Thought everything was supposed to be snow by midweek?

Ok, see the sentence below, I'm going to replace all those nasty words that keep coming up with something better: So: This week will see marginal conditions with potential for a transient wintry mix. These events will be localised. becomes: This week will see Arctic conditions with 100% certainty for a prolonged snow festival. These events will be everywhere. If only........

You'd think a great looking chart like this: would produce a lot more precipitation than this, (even allowing for the vagaries of GFS ppn predictions): I think this is why quite a few have been disappointed with this cold spell in snow terms; despite seemingly low heights, there's not much going on. Hopefully Ian's earlier post re potential instability this coming week will throw up some last minute surprises.

+8 uppers over the South East at midnight tonight? Think something not right with those charts..... Meanwhile, looks like the GFS 6z was just a tease; aside from a brief E/NE flow later this week in which we might squeeze out a bit of wintryness, looks like HP will dominate over the UK for the foreseeable.

Think he was called "Ryan Dutch Weatherman" or something similar? He was very funny for a while.

6z is just an outlier for Friday/Saturday but there are members close by. If this is really something to watch for, I imagine the 12zs will all start to pick up on it.

I'm not expecting 1963 again but some snow that settles and doesn't melt within 20 minutes would be a start!Without an Easterly we are the unlikely to get much of interest to be honest so need to hope that today's GFS 6z is on to something! If it isn't going to snow properly, then some dry sunny weather would be welcome.

Looking into my crystal ball, I see the words "massive cold outlier" being used in this thread in the next hour or so!

I see the 6z is going off on one and bringing the Easterly back for later in the week! Whilst this would be a welcome development, we need to see this backed up in the 12z model runs later. Until then, this is just a bit of eye candy as it goes against all the other indications at present.

I would also like the phrase "wintry mix" added to the swear filter!

You've missed nothing believe me (unless you're particularly fond of rain and sleet)!

What I have learned from this is that I will never be interested in any "cold" spell again unless it is sourced somewhere from the East or North East. That is the only direction that is ever going to deliver for us in the E/SE but proper Easterlies are sadly rarer than rocking horse droppings nowadays!

Wholeheartedly agree. All the potential washed away by marginality. At least with HP building for the end of the week, there might be some pleasant days of winter sunshine.

Yes, think you're right, its far too optimistic!

Tipping it down with rain here and blowing a gale. No sign of the covering of snow indicated in the MetO forecasts last night. What an absolute damp squib of a cold spell, far too marginal, and looks the same over the next few days judging by the rain symbols on the maps. I wonder if we'll ever see an Easterly again sometimes!

Unsurprisingly I like the sound of that! But hopefully there can be a bit of a shift in the wind direction so that more people see something of interest.

Hmmm, wasn't expecting this; no precipitation anywhere near East Anglia judging by the radar and nothing heading our way either at present. Good to hear snow reports from elsewhere though ☺

True, have added a little bracketed comment to my post accordingly!

From the MetO forecast for Friday to Sunday for East Anglia : Remaining cold with occasionally notable wind-chill. Sunny spells can be expected along with occasional showers, perhaps of snow, most frequent across Norfolk. Frost and icy patches likely overnight. PERHAPS OF SNOW? PERHAPS? They had better be of snow when they get here (especially on Sunday) else I think I'll give up!

Was going to have another Celebrity Model Discussion tonight but my guest, PM David Cameron, told me that he would only debate the issues if all the models were represented. However, I draw the line at the CMA so he was sent on his way..... Instead I will just focus on how nice the ECM looks tonight in the latter stages. I know we have had a few teases in the past but maybe this could actually lead to some HLB setting up. I'm not going to hold my breath though as there are clearly many hurdles to get through. Decent chances to see snow falling in the next few days in most places but not sure that much of it will stick away from the North and hills, but maybe some short notice troughs and features could change that!

Welcome to "Celebrity Model Discussion". Let's go out to our reporter, who has managed to corner the miracle man himself, Jesus Christ, for his thoughts: Reporter : Thanks for joining us Jesus, first can you give us your view on the overall synoptic situation? Jesus : Well, we currently are set for a PM blast later in the week, then a Northerly flow. JC : Of course, the longevity of this is the real matter to be resolved but it seems most likely that the cold will prove hard to shift. R: How about a chart to back that up? JC: (sighs) very well, here you go..... JC : After that, I expect High pressure to exert itself over the UK. R: So a MLB then? That's not going to be very popular with those awaiting a more continental 1963 style snowfest. JC: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for high level blocking to set up to bring an Easterly to the UK. R: How about that huge Siberian High? Maybe we could get that to move Westwards? JC: I don't know, you'd have to ask my Dad about that.... R: Have you got anything that may cheer up those who want an Easterly? JC : Well, P3 on the GEFS is rather nice tonight. R: And you think that is a real possibility? JC : ........... R: What about the forthcoming cold spell though? Surely there are chances for snow then? JC: Blessed are those that live in the North. Also those on hills, for they are closer to God. R : So, what would you say to those in the South re snow prospects in the near future? JC : More runs needed. R : Jesus, thank you......

Indeed we should always be cautious in the run up to any potential cold spell, especially in marginal setups, as the disappointment for some will be overwhelming if it all goes wrong! However, the mere fact that we have some kind of cold spell guaranteed (albeit unknowable snow amounts at present) compared to the zonal tedium we have been used to in recent winters/times is in itself cause for a small celebration; also the fact that it doesn't look like being a 24hr toppler for once.