Midlands Cold Spell Discussion

[kar999]

Light rain all morning here. Temperatures too high (3C & Dew Point 1C) at the moment. Nothing but rain and similar temperatures for miles around.

Cant see much happening except in the Welsh hills before dark. Then we might see some of the PPN turning to Sleet or Snow if temperatures fall.

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[ISAAC]

Ok i'm not the usual pessimistic type but i do know when something is on the wrong side of marginal, 539 dam thickness too high (although possibe for wet snow up to 540 in occluded fronts) Temp 3.3c dew point at 2c. Upper 850's -4c are probbaly the only closest thing to favouring snow but still not good enough.

Situation right now is very poor, we need some big temperature and dew point drops.... how do we attain that in such cloud cover ? i don't see how . Also the band is moving from the south and isn'y exactly brining colder air, we aren't even under cold air right now.

[snowmadchrisuk]

See, even Chris is positive about this one...only kidding mate

Yes and temps will likely drop later, this first warm front is what has risen them a little. High ground will help and I'd say Stafford is fairly high ground anyway. As for Leicester the bbc local graphics are brilliant and have Heavy Snow over us all night long.

[ISAAC]

Light sleet again here, but there is more snow to it than rain. If this is what it is like in the very light stuff, then if we get some heavy stuff it will almost certainly be snow!

What is your temperature and de point.... nothing but rain here

[Buckster]

Ok i'm not the usual pessimistic type but i do know when something is on the wrong side of marginal, 539 dam thickness too high (although possibe for wet snow up to 540 in occluded fronts) Temp 3.3c dew point at 2c. Upper 850's -4c are probbaly the only closest thing to favouring snow but still not good enough.

Situation right now is very poor, we need some big temperature and dew point drops.... how do we attain that in such cloud cover ? i don't see how . Also the band is moving from the south and isn'y exactly brining colder air, we aren't even under cold air right now

oh dear - at least high ground may get something on a positive note

[Nick L]

What is your temperature and de point.... nothing but rain here

1.8c and 0.7c

Definitely still more snow than rain, and the flakes are pretty decent size too.

[snowmadchrisuk]

The BBC have sort of a great way to cover there backs :

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[i love snow]

Light rain and sleet turned to light snow now! Looking good for later :-D

[Nick L]

Light rain and sleet turned to light snow now! Looking good for later :-D

Glad to see I am not going mad, definitely not seeing things

Turning more and more to snow, if this is the warm front then bring on the cold air!

[Albion Snowman]

Been dry here all night. Was 0C at midnight now 2.6C and rising. Wish the temps would stay down BUT the sleet/snow is forecast to arrive roughly by the evening so dont panic people. People with drizzle are just seeing Dribs and drabs of a front pretty much unrelated to tonights snow.

[dogs32]

sorry it might have already been posted..

There is a high risk of severe weather affecting parts of Wales and central England. Periods of sleet and snow are likely to persist well into Wednesday. The snow will be heavy at times with drifting likely in strong easterly winds, leading to blizzard conditions over hills.

10-15cm of snow is likely widely with 25cm or more possible over high ground of Wales.

Disruption to transport and power supplies is likely.

Issued at: 1100 Tue 29 Dec

[snowmadchrisuk]

Light Snow is already being reported in a couple of locations in the South from the other band so this really is looking good.

[timeflies]

Temperature at 1.7 and falling at the moment here in Stafford. Dew point at 1. More snow than rain now...

[ANYWEATHER]

On another "positive " note when the precipitation becomes heavier, this process will kick in the "Evaporative Cooling" effect in , so therefore the precip draging the cold air down to low levels, no reason why no one wont see any snow and it settling in the hours ahead even if youre on low ground!

[Nick L]

On another "positive " note when the precipitation becomes heavier, this process will kick in the "Evaporative Cooling" effect in , so therefore the precip draging the cold air down to low levels, no reason why no one wont see any snow and it settling in the hours ahead even if youre on low ground!

Exactly. The very light stuff is producing wintry stuff, got 90% snow and 10% rain here, so when the real fun and games arrives it will be purely snow.

[Potent Gust]

Currently dry here at the moment but feeling cold in the wind!

[Nick L]

Looking at the radar there isn't very light stuff over us, there is nothing!

[ISAAC]

Glad to see I am not going mad, definitely not seeing things

Turning more and more to snow, if this is the warm front then bring on the cold air!

Hmm don't understand how it's 3.0c here and im higher up and further north.

Not a sign of a single flake or sleetiness. lol

[kar999]

1.8c and 0.7c

Definitely still more snow than rain, and the flakes are pretty decent size too.

What's your elevation? You're not sitting on top of the Pye Green Telecom tower there are you?

Edit - just seen your signiature! Doh!

[Nick L]

Hmm don't understand how it's 3.0c here and im higher up and further north.

Not a sign of a single flake or sleetiness. lol

It's now 2.0c here but the DP has dropped to 0.6c. Very strange I agree. But you are probably in a more built up area than me, could that make a difference I wonder?

And Kar, I am roughly 150m up (in my sig)

[Serendipity]

Exactly. The very light stuff is producing wintry stuff, got 90% snow and 10% rain here, so when the real fun and games arrives it will be purely snow.

Here is the south midlands it's much warmer though, 3.5 and a dp 0f 1.7 which makes things more marginal. Will be interesting to see whether the cold air starts to filter down soon.

[we_want_snow]

If some of it in the SW is snow, then it's bound to be more snow when it get here, surely???

[stevomatt]

temp now 3.7 in northampton

[stevomatt]

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/Weather-warning-to-revellers.5942410.jp

not good

[kold weather]

Yep right now I think we've just about seen the end of the northwards motion of the warm front, which has maintained a stronger identity then some of the models were expecting. Anyway we should see some slow weakening of this feature as it sits in place and the cold air starts to attempt to undercut, though I don't think this process will really get going till the night hours...also evap cooling is going to play a part where its marginal at the moment.