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Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull Volcano

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kold weather Maestro

kold weather

Posted
  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
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Safety issues should always come ahead of impatience or monetary considerations. Besides the airlins stand to lose a lot more if they ruin the planes engines never mind risk to passengers.

Without a doubt your right, but sadly I think these companies are now getting rather desperate and if there is anyway at all of flying, they are prepared to take it. The problem is it really does only take one to get into trouble and crashland and the media hype would indeed explode everywhere!

Also I've been reading that tremors near Katla have been increasing as well over the last 6hrs or so, is that true?

Optimus Prime Rising Star

Optimus Prime

Posted
  • Location: G.Manchester
  • Location: G.Manchester
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Airlines have always put money ahead of safety. Why do you think they don't put parachutes in Aircrafts in case of an engine failure? The cost outweighs the chance of it happening. It does come across they have never actually tested an aircraft flying through dust particles before, they only know what happens if they fly directly over the volcano while it's spewing. Not even the Chinese would make that mistake (although you never know with their sense of direction)

Why even bother caring TEITS? Let them fly as according to you and a few Christian extremists the worlds going to blow up and cave in on itself by December 2012...lol

Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

derrylynne Newbie

derrylynne

Posted
  • Location: Cwmparc, South Wales.
  • Location: Cwmparc, South Wales.
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Anybody prepared to risk their lives to fly now should sign a disclaimer so if the plane comes down - their family gets nought. Anybody would have to be well short of a brain cell to fly with these risks. Apart though from the fact that any plane coming down due to the ash could well kill dozens on the ground. KLM seem to be be putting profit before safety. Yes the ash is causing chaos. But better the distruption than dead. Safety has to be put first whatever anybody thinks. The risks are more than real. The Finish air force found immense damage to their jets flying through this cloud. And - the cloud looks like getting worse over the next few days not better..

kold weather Maestro

kold weather

Posted
  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
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Also this ash is at low levels still, because I found my car earlier had some slight ash on it, which was rather surreal!

So therefore surely its going to be the same case further to the E/SE given they are in the same plume. I think any travel to the UK isn't going to happen anyway given the plume is heading right for us now, rather then being directed towards Scandinavia by the jet.

Candice Enthusiast

Candice

Posted
  • Location: The Wash - Norfolk side
  • Weather Preferences: Storms storms and more storms
  • Location: The Wash - Norfolk side
Posted

The nearest is "Eystri Skogar" from that site (or hoever it' spelled)

dogs32 Aficionado

dogs32

Posted
  • Location: south London
  • Location: south London
Posted

does anyone have any good news of the current situ...is this volcano dying down?

MAF Experienced

MAF

Posted
  • Location: SE London
  • Location: SE London
Posted

does anyone have any good news of the current situ...is this volcano dying down?

latest from Met O Pat

<H3>Update to Volcanic Ash Plume

Satellite imagery Sunday morning shows an active volcanic plume spreading ash southwards and southeastwards from southern Iceland. Remnants of earlier plume activity over Europe much less evident now on derived dust imagery. Recent information from the Icelandic Met Office suggests the volcano is currently erupting ash to a height of approximately 4km. Issued at 0850 on Sun 18 Apr 2010.

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dogs32 Aficionado

dogs32

Posted
  • Location: south London
  • Location: south London
Posted

latest from Met O Pat

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cheers MAF...so realy we are no way further with yet another plume on the horizon

crappy volcano

SnowBear Maestro

SnowBear

Posted
  • Location: Colchester, Essex, UK (33m ASL)
  • Location: Colchester, Essex, UK (33m ASL)
Posted

If KLM wish to take stupid risks despite the scientific and authority advice then let them, but just turn them back from British airspace where I hope all will take heed of those warnings. A plane coming down in London on approach to Heathrow would not be a pretty sight at all.

Another point to consider is if planes are allowed to fly, the damage done may not be apparent straight away and in a year or two's time we could see a rash of engines failing due to bad maintenance/cost cutting.

I think any plane that now gets into trouble due to the ash, with all the warning, the airline involved should be put out of business and charges brought by the government of the airspace involved for irresponsibility and manslaughter. Any damage caused all costs, including emergency service costs and rebuild etc sought from the said company.

What it does say to me though, BA are cancelling day blocks at a time, being patient, waiting for the all clear, KLM needs to fly asap, which company is in financial trouble it seems? Just a thought.

dogs32 Aficionado

dogs32

Posted
  • Location: south London
  • Location: south London
Posted

i will take the risk...you got to die sometime...cant avoid it

derrylynne Newbie

derrylynne

Posted
  • Location: Cwmparc, South Wales.
  • Location: Cwmparc, South Wales.
Posted

does anyone have any good news of the current situ...is this volcano dying down?

Looking at the tremor chart it is set to get worse. The danger is also the sister volcano blowing - and that is bigger....

dogs32 Aficionado

dogs32

Posted
  • Location: south London
  • Location: south London
Posted

Looking at the tremor chart it is set to get worse. The danger is also the sister volcano blowing - and that is bigger....

I hope your wrong as this will effect the general population more than people realize

Paul Sherman Veteran

Paul Sherman

Posted
  • Location: Leigh On Sea - Essex & Tornado Alley
  • Location: Leigh On Sea - Essex & Tornado Alley
Posted

does anyone have any good news of the current situ...is this volcano dying down?

06z GFS Shows a breif window off Opportunity for the 24/25th April when winds push the Ash Plume away but worryingly another NW Flow sets up after that, so if it is still erupting then we could be back to square one again.

kold weather Maestro

kold weather

Posted
  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
Posted

Its really the upper wind patterns that need to be watched more carefully, esp given the risk of Katla eventually going up as well. The good news is the models are quite keen on shifting the flow to more of a SW type towards the back end of April. Still there maybe huge backlogs which will need to be adressed first...

dogs32 Aficionado

dogs32

Posted
  • Location: south London
  • Location: south London
Posted

well this isnt going to beat me...I will drive to Spain and get a flight there :drunk:

where there is a will there is a way

Optimus Prime Rising Star

Optimus Prime

Posted
  • Location: G.Manchester
  • Location: G.Manchester
Posted

Or rather accept you can't fly and stay put?

Personally I think flight is mans greatest achievement, but by god does it get abused these days.

The PIT Maestro

The PIT

Posted
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
Posted

Well the good news is that it looks like the eruption has quietened down although seismic activity has increased.

Latest from Iceland Met office.

MO's radar near Keflavik has not detected the plume from Eyjafjallajökull since 08 o?clock this morning, which implies that it is below 10,000 feet (3 km).

There are no reports on ash this morning. Seismic tremor has been ongoing and is at a strong level this morning.

No flood has been reported. A gauging station near the Markarfljót bridge is being improved and a team from IMO is investigating floodmarks and flood elevation to measure the spread of the flood from Gígjökull on the first day of the eruption, 21 April.

Views beginning to clear and no sign of a plume as yet.

Okay doke I can see a plume now hard to tell how high it is.

Roo Apprentice

Roo

Posted
  • Location: St. Albans, Herts
  • Location: St. Albans, Herts
Posted

but by god does it get abused these days.

Too true. It is a luxury, but we seems to have forgotten that. Also, yes it will get trickier if you like ready made fruit salad, kenyan roses or need a specialist computer chip but, to be honest, we've had 4 days of this and the world hasn't ended.

Indeed, those of us in areas close to airports are basking in the silence.....

I do hope, when things start up again, people might consider what cost there is to non-stop flying?

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