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Coast

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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Morning all!!!

My head hurts and I haven't even had a drink :doh: Must be the stratosphere doing it.......

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hernebaylooby

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  • Location: herne bay,kent
  • Weather Preferences: lots of snow and cold crisp mornings! thunder storms!
  • Location: herne bay,kent
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morning coast, must be as i feel a little heavy headed this morning and thats without touching the amber nectar

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  • Location: Alresford, Near Colchester, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: As long as it's not North Sea muck, I'll cope.
  • Location: Alresford, Near Colchester, Essex
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Morning all. :)

Some places near here will be going through a great sunrise at the moment. Not here though, as low cloud appeared at the wrong time.

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Coast

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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morning coast,

Morning hbl!!! (got any Ibuprofen?)

Morning all. smile.png

Morning Steve!

You're more East than I am, you'll get the sunrise first....

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  • Location: herne bay,kent
  • Weather Preferences: lots of snow and cold crisp mornings! thunder storms!
  • Location: herne bay,kent
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Morning hbl!!! (got any Ibuprofen?)

unfortunately not, they all went over the christmas period ... dam you morgans spice rum!

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Coast

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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unfortunately not, they all went over the christmas period ... dam you morgans spice rum!

:lol: If you like spiced rum, after my own home made one of course, let me recommend this absolute beauty:

http://www.drinkfinder.co.uk/rum/bristol-black-spiced-rum-42-70cl.html

Liquid Christmas!!!! good.gif

Back to weather and the pressure is way up today at 1031mb and rising, might see a bit of sun in some places, but generally still cloudy.

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hernebaylooby

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  • Location: herne bay,kent
  • Weather Preferences: lots of snow and cold crisp mornings! thunder storms!
  • Location: herne bay,kent
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laugh.png If you like spiced rum, after my own home made one of course, let me recommend this absolute beauty:

http://www.drinkfind...um-42-70cl.html

Liquid Christmas!!!! good.gif

looks like next christmas will be another messy one smiliz39.gif

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Snowangel-MK

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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Morning all. smile.png

............low cloud appeared at the wrong time.

I think that might be what happened here too....although I can't be sure as I wasn't awake in time to see it, good morning all btw smile.png

....it is still morning isn't it ? (I really must start setting the alarm again) unsure.png

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Keraunic

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  • Location: Ipswich. (Originally from York)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder Storms. All extreme weather.
  • Location: Ipswich. (Originally from York)
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Mornin each. Lovely day here in The Swich and mild. There was a lovely red sky earlier...and we all know what that portends. Red sky in the morning..shepherds warning.........MORE RAIN! :)

Have a good day, everyone. :D

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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....it is still morning isn't it ?

Or half way through a day, as some us actually working like to call it......

MORE RAIN!

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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My head hurts and I haven't even had a drink doh.gifMust be the stratosphere doing it.......

More like you've gone 'cold turkey' ......so what happened to the three bottles of rum that were under your desk at work ? blum.gif

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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More like you've gone 'cold turkey' ......

Hot Turkey curry actually! blum.gif

so what happened to the three bottles of rum that were under your desk at work ?

They now reside with 40 other ones in my tasting cellar!!!

Satellite would suggest some clearer weather today?

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  • Location: Stevenage - Herts (110m ASL)
  • Location: Stevenage - Herts (110m ASL)
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Morning everyone. Dry and mild here. Currently 8.9c. Time to get some washing done. Yippee clapping.giflazy.gif

Can I ask a stoopid question please. What does SSW stand for and what does it mean? I'm sure a South South Westerly is not the answer.

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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Morning everyone.

Can I ask a stoopid question please. What does SSW stand for and what does it mean? I'm sure a South South Westerly is not the answer.

Morning Milly, here we go:

http://en.wikipedia....spheric_warming

Here's what the Americans are saying on their side of the puddle:

http://www.americanw...oss-polar-flow/

A warming of the Strat looks to have already begun:

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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Or half way through a day, as some us actually working like to call it......

I will be beavering away into the evening again by tomorrow and nearly all day on Saturday....we don't all work a conventional M-F 9-5 you know nonono.gif

Anyway today looks like much like yesterday grey, miserable, damp and uninspiring...oh and it's bound to rain this afternoon I'm getting my hair done !

Have a nice day anyway angel.gif

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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I will be beavering away into the evening again by tomorrow and nearly all day on Saturday....we don't all work a conventional M-F 9-5 you know nonono.gif

No we don't all work that!! nonono.gif

Here's a good guide to stratospheric temperatures:

http://www.netweathe...-tutorial;sess=

In warmer stratospheric conditions the jet stream takes a more meandering path due to a weaker polar vortex. This allows cold air to spill further south. If the UK is in the firing line of the cold air then this will lead to colder (often more settled) and possibly snowier weather.
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chilly milly

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  • Location: Stevenage - Herts (110m ASL)
  • Location: Stevenage - Herts (110m ASL)
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Thank you Coast, that is extremely helpful. So this is a major SSW I presume if the vortex is expected to split. And it happens every 2 years on average. So is this similar to what happened in Dec 2010?

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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Now we know from the Strat temperature tutorial that the jetstream plays an important part in the flow of air into the UK and can help us if we want to get the Gold Medal of Winter conditions. So what's the jet doing?:

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=jetstream;sess=

There is of course a tutorial here:

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=jetstream-tutorial;sess=

The polar jet is the strongest as the temperature gradient across Polar and mid latitude regions is greatest. This is increased again in the Northern Hemisphere during winter. Both the subtropical jet and the polar jet travel from west to east and both would travel uniformly and evenly around the earth if it wasn.t for other influencing factors.
In winter the temperature of the stratosphere can also have an effect on the strength and position of the jet stream. The cooler the polar stratosphere, the stronger the polar/ tropical differential becomes; encouraging the jet stream to gain in strength. The warmth of the landmasses and oceans (such as the El Nino Southern Oscillation) can also have a bearing on the strength and amplitude of the jet stream.
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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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So this is a major SSW I presume if the vortex is expected to split. And it happens every 2 years on average. So is this similar to what happened in Dec 2010?

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http://www.patricktmarsh.com/2010/11/day-325-bifurcated-split-polar-vortex/

You really need to speak to chiono about Strat stuff as he's the top guy in here!

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Snowangel-MK

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
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A bit more reading here.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_vortex

and this is what happened in 1985....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_1985_Arctic_outbreak

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mulzy

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  • Location: Raynes Park, London SW20
  • Location: Raynes Park, London SW20
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Morning all.

Cloudy and 10.2C here. Don't think we'll be seeing much sun over the next few days, although it will be dry.

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gottolovethisweather

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  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Summer:sunny, some Thunder,Winter:cold & snowy spells,Other:transitional
  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
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Blimey, you lot have posted many links of a rather scientific nature, tis good to see. As I haven't long surfaced and my head cold wants to revert to taking hold of my chest, I'll pass on anything too technical for now. cray.gif

The SSW will be the key to making or breaking this winter and likewise, if we miss its consequences, poor ole GPs forecast could be quite a long way out. The main influence I took from GPs forecast was a bitter January across Europe, so that is where a big change needs to start occurring and it may well do. Anyway, as Coast stated, those guys in there, know their stuff big time and I recommend you stick with them.

http://forum.netweat...40#entry2462312

Another link worth following if just to see the progress of the Snow and Ice is the one shown below.

http://forum.netweat...60#entry2461351

I must admit that now the SSW is seemingly under way or if not will be in days, it will feel like a long wait before its effects are felt thereafter. Please bear in mind, as others have stated the effects can miss us in their entirety and will not be propogated downwards until at least 10 to 14 days afterwards. Before this occurs, there will in any case, be some colder air to feed on, as JP, Ben_Cambs and myself have been expecting for a while. The 11th January is the key date for the first changeover IMHO. good.gif

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