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Winter Model Output Discussion 01/02/2013 12z onwards


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  • Location: Manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and warm in the Summer, cold and snowy in the winter, simples!
  • Location: Manchester

Let's wait and see what verifies before the medal ceremony. Of course, I'd love ECM to be on the money but let's not jump the gun. :-D

Quite but it is encouraging that it hasn't corrected further East at all from this morning which was a concern, for me at least.

I said the other day we would know Monday evening and that is how it is shaping up.

I would love to see a positive adjustment on the UKMO tomorrow morning.

Edited by Mucka
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  • Location: Sunderland
  • Weather Preferences: Hot Summer, Snowy winter and thunderstorms all year round!
  • Location: Sunderland

remember folks, this is the Model Output Discussion, not a 'Member Appreciation Thread'....by all means, use the 'Like' button where appropriate, but let's keep it on topic eh?

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  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent

A slight correction east from ECM again..if it does that twice a day for the next few days then.....

we will have North Westerlies by the time we get to +0

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A slight correction east from ECM again..if it does that twice a day for the next few days then.....

Not to be homing in on your posts today but the ECM is identical if not a tad better at 144 that the 144 of the 00z. certainly no eastward correction, also the atlantic shortwave at 144 is alligned on the exact same track as the 00z was at 168, obviously not quite at the same location though-

12z 144

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2013020312/ECH1-144.GIF?03-0

00z 168- remember there is 12 hours lag to factor in

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/archives/2013020300/ECH1-168.GIF?00

S

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  • Location: Stroud, Gloucestershire
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme!
  • Location: Stroud, Gloucestershire

That one Easterly going bristol's up if ever I have seen one

The easterly should build once the trough disrupts to the west and south!! .

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

To all the nay-sayer

remember

If GFS corrects slightly west each time then...........

Just saying smile.png

Oh T168 - err...........epic?

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire

A slight correction east from ECM again..if it does that twice a day for the next few days then.....

It hasn't backed east at all. If you compare to the 0z it's actually backed further west?

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  • Location: Near King's Lynn 13.68m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Hoar Frost, Snow, Misty Autumn mornings
  • Location: Near King's Lynn 13.68m ASL

we will have North Westerlies by the time we get to +0

Are we forecasting what the models will do or looking at what the models are forecasting?

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and warm in the Summer, cold and snowy in the winter, simples!
  • Location: Manchester

Setting up a pattern with sliders very reminiscent of our recent spell except it looks as though the high will get reinforced.

ECH1-168.GIF?03-0

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  • Location: Nr Chelmsford, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: Hurricanes, Thunderstorms and blizzards please!
  • Location: Nr Chelmsford, Essex

Hmmmm, nice!

ECM0-168.GIF?03-0

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  • Location: Cardiff, Wales
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunder & Lightning, Thundersnow, Storms, Heatwave
  • Location: Cardiff, Wales

You can not fault ECM consistency here. Its ENS may not be in total agreement but the op is solid and has been for 5 runs.

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  • Location: STEVENAGE, HERTS (100M ASL)
  • Location: STEVENAGE, HERTS (100M ASL)

Not to be homing in on your posts today but the ECM is identical if not a tad better at 144 that the 144 of the 00z. certainly no eastward correction, also the atlantic shortwave at 144 is alligned on the exact same track as the 00z was at 168, obviously not quite at the same location though-

12z 144

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2013020312/ECH1-144.GIF?03-0

00z 168- remember there is 12 hours lag to factor in

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/archives/2013020300/ECH1-168.GIF?00

S

Hat off Steve your right, it looked like an eastward correction to me at first glance. I have to say I'm starting to come round. Can't believe the ECM has stuck to its guns on so many runs now! I will either love or hate the ECM in a few days time. Is there a middle ground between the GFS and ECM? I'm struggling to see what it would look like?

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

well it was an hour ago i said i was on the fence i just fell off,

come back on to pay the ecm a visit absolutely stunning and its showing this trend much earlier than lastnights aswell incredible.

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