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[Swave Snow]

I am in Aviemore, and its still rain, anyone know how high Aviemore is?

 

On Holiday from London, but I from Edinburgh originally by the way

Edited December 21, 2013 by Swave Snow

[jon_d1983]

I am in Aviemore, and its still rain, anyone know how high Aviemore is? On Holiday from London, but I from Edinburgh originally by the way

Its about 230m above sea level I think. Anyone confirm?

[November13]

MY brother lives in Aviemore 700ft asl on my Garmin when there.All quiet here watching deck the halls.

[Swave Snow]

Its about 230m above sea level I think. Anyone confirm?

 

 

Thanks, i think you are correct just checked again on google, any idea if this level should get any snow over the next few days?

[November13]

I would put my house on it with that elevation.Should be snow tomorrow and Xmas eve.

[blitzen]

For those that haven't seen this yet.....(might be helpful to Swave Snow)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/25479183

[over_the_rainbow]

Thanks, i think you are correct just checked again on google, any idea if this level should get any snow over the next few days?

 

 

yes! My folks are by Kingussie and ended up with a few inches this week - which has since melted. But they are expecting more tomorrow, so I would say yes 

Edited December 21, 2013 by over_the_rainbow

[Highland Snow]

Maximum today was 9.4C at 00.02 and currently 3.5C/+2.3C (-1.0C/hr).

 

Rainfall total yesterday was 23.1mm with a further 8.6mm today (23.45mm/hr at 19.38) so far and on that note I observed that the Tay was very high from my vantage point on the Friarton Bridge this morning.

[Swave Snow]

cheers guys and gals

[Highland Snow]

Torrential rain/hail shower just passed through dropping another 2.1mm (30.48mm/hr @21.26).

[Allyw12]

Hi all

It's getting a bit wild again out side, temp dropping now 4.1

[NUT]

More thunder and lightning. Second saturday in a row seriously what's going on!

[blitzen]

Please tell me pressure isn't lower on the 18z for Tuesday!.....Like I said I am going cross-eyed but it looks to me that it is modelling sub 930mbs?

Edited December 21, 2013 by Blitzen

[Hiya]

Please tell me pressure isn't lower on the 18z for Tuesday!.....Like I said I am going cross-eyed but it looks to me that it is modelling sub 930mbs?

 

Looks like 928 mbar to me!

 

Still don't think it is that serious.

[edo]

I am in Aviemore, and its still rain, anyone know how high Aviemore is?

 

On Holiday from London, but I from Edinburgh originally by the way

we wont chase you with pitchforks then 

[blitzen]

Looks like 928 mbar to me!

 

Still don't think it is that serious.

I am not really up on chart reading Hiya but i think you said in a post yesterday? that there wasn't really a tight enough gradient and this would  allow pressure to spread instead of being squeezed?

Edited December 21, 2013 by Blitzen

[edo]

Torrential rain/hail shower just passed through dropping another 2.1mm (30.48mm/hr @21.26).

dont i know it.... just discovered a wall of water falling from my gutter at the front door....have just spent a nice half hour clearing the gutters....got that  pins and needles feeling in my hands now there starting to heat up again  

[lorenzo]

18z continues the march to initiation of this low on the Jet.

 

18z run is packed with extremes.

 

238mph Jet

 

Air thickness chart, whole of Scotland sub 500dam air, with centre of system falling to 472dam.

 

mslp at 926hPa

 

Also of note is how this systems stops and anchors before continuing it's exit beyond the North of the country.

 

 

 

 

[Hiya]

I am not really up on chart reading Hiya but i think you said in a post yesterday? that there wasn't really a tight enough gradient and this would  allow pressure to spread instead of being squeezed?

 

 

Yes pretty much.  I stand to be corrected, but to me apart from the very low pressure the weather won't be anything of note.

[Scottish-Irish Skier]

dont i know it.... just discovered a wall of water falling from my gutter at the front door....have just spent a nice half hour clearing the gutters....got that  pins and needles feeling in my hands now there starting to heat up again

 

Was up on the roof last night doing the same thing.

 

Gutter choked full of leaves and needles at a key point allowed some water to go up and over seals to drip a little back into the house. Wind assisted probably.

Edited December 21, 2013 by scottish skier

[BleakMidwinter]

Thanks, Hiya and Blitzen, for that chat - so it's how tight the lines are, how rapidly it's altering, that makes the difference between "ooh, how interesting, a near-record low pressure system" versus "aaaaaarrrrggghhhhh"?

[edo]

Yes pretty much.  I stand to be corrected, but to me apart from the very low pressure the weather won't be anything of note.

you could be right for many in scotland but looks severe for N/E Scotland

 

Edited December 21, 2013 by edodfc

[lorenzo]

Couple of wind charts from the 18z. mean speeds and gusts, all depends on location I guess. I would think 70-90mph gusts could safely fall into the serious category. Whereas, other areas may experience what we would class as a proper day of gales, vs real storm force winds and wonder what the fuss is about.

 

 

Even with the last couple of systems bombing into the NWest of Scotland, there have been variations in the orientation of the low, both with projected track and also when in situe, in a similar manner this one will be watched closely right up until arrival.

 

 

 

 

[blitzen]

Thanks, Hiya and Blitzen, for that chat - so it's how tight the lines are, how rapidly it's altering, that makes the difference between "ooh, how interesting, a near-record low pressure system" versus "aaaaaarrrrggghhhhh"?

Well, put it this way, if Monday/Tuesday turns out to be an  "ooh, how interesting" - Friday/Saturday may turn out to be an "aaaaaarrrrggghhh!"  Don't think yer gonnie knit yersel' oot o' this ain BMW!

[BleakMidwinter]

Blitzen, I'm just speed-knitting guy-ropes to keep the house tethered to the ground!! 

Couple of wind charts from the 18z. mean speeds and gusts, all depends on location I guess. I would think 70-90mph gusts could safely fall into the serious category. Whereas, other areas may experience what we would class as a proper day of gales, vs real storm force winds and wonder what the fuss is about.

 

Even with the last couple of systems bombing into the NWest of Scotland, there have been variations in the orientation of the low, both with projected track and also when in situe, in a similar manner this one will be watched closely right up until arrival.

Thanks, lorenzo - when I try to look at the charts, I'm still too unsure/ignorant to know which ones to look at, so it's really useful having you post those two to look at and see just what they indicate.