North West England Weather Discussion 14/11/15 Onwards

[Winter Cold]

Hi everyone

Just seen the images and footage on the BBC news on the flooding in Cumbria. Absolutely awful. At the worst time of year this, its now ruined a lot of peoples Christmases

Just wanted to post a message to say im thinking of all those affected. Take care up there!

[Miamay]

Horrible day !! Strong winds and rain. Thinking off all up in Cumbria. Stay safe x

[Mokidugway]

Carlisle warned of imminent flooding ,Cumbria is almost compleatly isolated to transport links .

[SP1986]

I don't know if anyone can verify but I was walking home, and we have a good view out to the north and northeast here - I saw what looked like an intense power flash to the north, and fair way away, but it looked huge in scale.. can anyone say whether they saw the same? It lit up the horizon about 15-20 minutes ago.

Edited December 5, 2015 by SP1986

[Iceaxecrampon]

Appleby looks horrendous - Windermere cut off apparently -  any reports from Newby Bridge?

 

[cowdog]

12 minutes ago, SP1986 said:

I don't know if anyone can verify but I was walking home, and we have a good view out to the north and northeast here - I saw what looked like an intense power flash to the north, and fair way away, but it looked huge in scale.. can anyone say whether they saw the same? It lit up the horizon about 15-20 minutes ago.

Was probably just a substation being flooded - when they go they go in style, big light show with little damage (except to the station) usually.

Edited December 5, 2015 by cowdog

[Iceaxecrampon]

Radar easing over West Cumbria.

[SP1986]

5 minutes ago, cowdog said:

Was probably just a substation being flooded - when they go they go in style, big light show with little damage (except to the station) usually.

I wondered if it might be something like that, because there's no instability for lightning today. Can't say how far it is away but we can see Lancashire from here, and the hills of Cumbria on a clear day.

 

[itsnowjoke]

Well it's certainly rough here

[claret047]

My thoughts and prayers are with you folks in the North West, especially in Cumbria. Try and stay safe, dry and warm.

Best wishes

Dave

 

[Dami]

Yes, I can't imagine what it must be like...stay safe all .

Thoughts with you

Dami 

 

[Mokidugway]

Thanks for your kind thoughts guys, a truly terrible weather event here ,landslides , bridges destroyed livestock being rescued and towns at risk of major floods .

Edited December 5, 2015 by Mokidugway

[itsnowjoke]

Been soaked three times at least fed up

[tinybill]

 

Looking at  the radar  weather  still terrible just becarfull  will keeping a eye  on the news  channels don't do nothing daft

 

[Backtrack]

Cumbria is renowned for being one of the wettest places in the UK. Whilst the flooding is shocking, it's to be expected during the autumn/winter months

 

What's devastating is the lack of sunshine these past six weeks!

[Iceaxecrampon]

1 hour ago, itsnowjoke said:

Well it's certainly rough here

....especially after a 0-2 defeat.

[Mokidugway]

No way in to south Cumbria tonight by road or rail ..

[tinybill]

Cumbria police and partner agencies have declared a major incident.

http://www.cumbriacrack.com/2015/12/05/cumbria-declares-major-incident/

[Summer Sun]

Red warning updated

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=warnings&map=Warnings&zoom=5&lon=-3.50&lat=55.50&fcTime=1449273600®ionName=uk

[ManiaMuse]

Can anyone explain to a weather newbie like me why on the radar it looks like the heavy rain has sat in a relatively small area over Cumbria all day without moving while not a million miles away here in Manchester it has been dry all day?

(have lurked the model threads for years but still don't understand most of what they are talking about :S)

[Backtrack]

10 minutes ago, ManiaMuse said:

Can anyone explain to a weather newbie like me why on the radar it looks like the heavy rain has sat in a relatively small area over Cumbria all day without moving while not a million miles away here in Manchester it has been dry all day?

(have lurked the model threads for years but still don't understand most of what they are talking about :S)

Hey! Welcome to the forum!

In basic terms, our part of the world is in a relatively sheltered location. The Welsh mountains create a rain shadow effect with precipitation coming from the west. They'll also take the brunt off some of the strongest winds. Similarly from the east, with The Pennines playing a large role in blocking precipitation from arriving from the east. This isn't always the case though, it depends entirely on the strength of the flow (wind) or how much energy/instability a band/front has. 

Cumbrias 'heavy echo' of precipitation is sat over an elevated area. You'll see this on the radar. The heavier rains will always be deposited on higher ground. The reason for this is topography, where the cloud must rise to pass over the hill/mountain. To pass over, it must first become lighter. To do this, it'll deposit much of its load before it does so. This is also the explanation behind the rain shadow effect. 

 

Hope this helps!

BT

[Harsh Climate]

All this rain that's piled into the northwest today really is quite similar to those severe lake effect snow events they get in buffalo and such places. Accept this was caused by very mild air passing over a cool atlantic ocean opposed to frigid cold air traveling across a tepidly warm lake.   

[Mokidugway]

6 minutes ago, Backtrack said:

Hey! Welcome to the forum!

In basic terms, our part of the world is in a relatively sheltered location. The Welsh mountains create a rain shadow effect with precipitation coming from the west. They'll also take the brunt off some of the strongest winds. Similarly from the east, with The Pennines playing a large role in blocking precipitation from arriving from the east. This isn't always the case though, it depends entirely on the strength of the flow (wind) or how much energy/instability a band/front has. 

Cumbrias 'heavy echo' of precipitation is sat over an elevated area. You'll see this on the radar. The heavier rains will always be deposited on higher ground. The reason for this is topography, where the cloud must rise to pass over the hill/mountain. To pass over, it must first become lighter. To do this, it'll deposit much of its load before it does so. This is also the explanation behind the rain shadow effect. 

 

Hope this helps!

BT

Couldn't have said better myself 

[Backtrack]

What's crazy is, it's absolutely bone dry outside. Grass is dry, paths. It's warm. I love it!

[Mokidugway]

1 minute ago, Backtrack said:

What's crazy is, it's absolutely bone dry outside. Grass is dry, paths. It's warm. I love it!

Your getting a lovely foehn , I'm jealous