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Derbyshire_snow Community Regular

Derbyshire_snow

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  • Location: Sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Sheffield
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1 hour ago, Chris.R said:

 

This is really promising to hear. According to the WRF that should be impossible for you to cee  any sort of wintry precipitation at the moment as the freezing level is 2100 m  and most of the air above you is between 3-7° above freezing and saturated.

The cold air must be undercutting already or something very odd is going on.

I posted about an hour ago about it snowing at the Winking Man in Upper Hulme which is several miles from Buxton around 400m+ asl I suspect reports will come in from Buxton of snow soon.

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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Yep it definitely seems like the undercut is coming in quicker than expected otherwise snowflakes are managing to survive for 2000 m above freezing lol.

Would expect 18 Z WRF and similar High-Res models to upgrade things a bit.

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Derbyshire_snow

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  • Location: Sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Sheffield
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3 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Yep it definitely seems like the undercut is coming in quicker than expected otherwise snowflakes are managing to survive for 2000 m above freezing lol.

Would expect 18 Z WRF and similar High-Res models to upgrade things a bit.

Had a feeling it would especially in the peaks

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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BTW I can’t see anything to get excited about over Saturday at least for here anyway. By the time precipitation arrives during Friday night there is already a strong inversion above the surface even though surface temperatures are near freezing. Don’t see how it could be anything but ice pellets and rain.

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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I just thought actually if the cloud base is low then the precip only has to go from there to the ground? so it might not matter about an inversion higher than the cloud base. Not very certain about that and how that physics works.

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Nothing of note really here yet @ 408m though it is trying. Just a slushy layer.

Tomorrow is looking like a promising shot at some evaporative cooling could produce 1-3cm above 100m in the East of the region with the Central & East Pennines favoured for 5-15cm also the West Pennines above 300-350m.

The central & western areas of the region are likely to see some enhanced sleet / wet snow around midday tomorrow producing a dusting (less than 2cm) in a few lucky areas below 100m.

2cm contour > Oldham > Macclesfield

5cm contour > Saddleworth > Buxton

Some coverings possible west of this > Fohen effect unfortunately present.

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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18z WRF an upgrade again. Freezing level now down to 180 m at my location and DP at 0 so would be snow between about 13:00 – 15:00. Everyone East of M6  should be very happy.

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Frost HoIIow Accomplished

Frost HoIIow

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  • Location: Medlock Valley, Oldham, 103 metres/337 feet ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, snow, thunderstorms, warm summers not too hot.
  • Location: Medlock Valley, Oldham, 103 metres/337 feet ASL
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Currently 6C at Manchester airport.

But 3.1C here just shows that being further east and closer to the colder air is helping. Hope this bodes well for tomorrow.

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damianslaw

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
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Very heavy rain over Lake District at present, but have spotted a couple of pink pixels over eastern high ground, won't be long before we start to see some green on high ground at least. Hoping wake up to green at least preferably pink everywhere..

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dodge Accomplished

dodge

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  • Location: Oldham, Gtr Manchester
  • Location: Oldham, Gtr Manchester
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Still rain here...heavier stuff gathering out to the west.  Might have to suffer a lot of wet before the final denouement turns a little wintry.

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iand61

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  • Location: Bacup Lancashire, 1000ft up in the South Pennines
  • Weather Preferences: Summer heat and winter cold, and a bit of snow when on offer
  • Location: Bacup Lancashire, 1000ft up in the South Pennines
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Still coming down here, just a shame it’s wet rather than white but the forecast looks good for a few hours of snow although it’s a nowcasting sort of day.

 

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Rush2019

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  • Location: Macclesfield
  • Location: Macclesfield
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Yes, same here, moderate rain, 4°.  A bit of a wind blowing this a.m.  currently under a thick band of blue echoes.  Altitude for my postcode 150m asl.  Hoping for something a little more wintry later.

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iand61

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  • Location: Bacup Lancashire, 1000ft up in the South Pennines
  • Weather Preferences: Summer heat and winter cold, and a bit of snow when on offer
  • Location: Bacup Lancashire, 1000ft up in the South Pennines
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Plenty of reports of snow falling in the Yorkshire thread down to quite low levels so the mixing out of the milder uppers must be happening.

hopefully it will be heading this way shortly and our region can join in.

anyway off to work now so let’s see what the day brings.

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Iceaxecrampon

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  • Location: Fenland Fylde.The same village as Duncan Iceglide.
  • Weather Preferences: Horizontal Drizzle - Nice Blizzards
  • Location: Fenland Fylde.The same village as Duncan Iceglide.
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Sweet spot looks NE of Appleby. METO got this one right. Radar definite battleground frontal convergence W and E. Big totals. We have 30% chance ❄️ at 16:00. 

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severe snowstorm

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  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frosty nights, thunderstorms and the odd gale
  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
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1 hour ago, Weather-history said:

3.6C

Manchester Aiport TAF or the last one seemed to have upped wintry prospects. 

Same for Liverpool Airport which was showing no wintry prospects for today during yesterday's forecasts.

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severe snowstorm

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  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frosty nights, thunderstorms and the odd gale
  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
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Increasing reports of rain turning to snow in Yorkshire, so don't think it will be too much longer to wait for Eastern parts of the region.

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Penrith Snow

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  • Location: Penrith Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, snowy winters and warm sunny summers
  • Location: Penrith Cumbria
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Heavy rain here but steady fall in temperature mow 1.2c, forecast for snow from 9am.

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Iceaxecrampon

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  • Location: Fenland Fylde.The same village as Duncan Iceglide.
  • Weather Preferences: Horizontal Drizzle - Nice Blizzards
  • Location: Fenland Fylde.The same village as Duncan Iceglide.
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A reminder if anyone's interested.

 

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