Storm Isha, Amber ⚠️

[StingJet]

14 hours ago, Nick123 said:

I don't think Tuesdays will be as bad or even named. Surely we can't have 2 consecutive named storms?

Feb-22 saw 3 named storms within a week, Dudley, Eunice and Franklin , quite a spell of extreme weather

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/weather/learn-about/uk-past-events/interesting/2022/2022_01_storms_dudley_eunice_franklin_r1.pdf

[FlightlessWings]

Amber has just been extended to my neck of the Wiltshire woods (aka farmland)

[Skullzrulerz]

Amber Warning did just come up on my phone, imagine it's for the South West, pressed it and it said it was cancelled?

[Spikey M]

35 minutes ago, IanT said:

It’s winter here in the UK.

A storm can be a storm without being historic.

A cold spell can be a cold spell without being historic - as we have just seen.

Would it benefit us to return to a time when forecasts were forecasts without hype?

 

They can't win either way.

If they have names and warnings, it's overdramatic and unnecessary.

If they just say "it's going to be windy" and a tree falls and kills a family in a car, then those same people complain that they didn't know it was going to be that bad.

 

[Polar Maritime]

Amber Warning extended to nearly all the UK. Never seen that before..

Edited January 21 by Polar Maritime

[ANYWEATHER]

53 minutes ago, IanT said:

It’s winter here in the UK.

A storm can be a storm without being historic.

A cold spell can be a cold spell without being historic - as we have just seen.

Would it benefit us to return to a time when forecasts were forecasts without hype?

 

Yes, get you're meaning, problem today we live in a nanny state ,so let all of us be told ,and then we don't have to use good old fashioned common sense ,which sadly lacking in today's politically correct society. .....

[sunnijim]

38 minutes ago, IanT said:

It’s winter here in the UK.

A storm can be a storm without being historic.

A cold spell can be a cold spell without being historic - as we have just seen.

Would it benefit us to return to a time when forecasts were forecasts without hype?

 

Totally with you on this.

However I would suggest impacts are likely from this one so warnings are required.

We could certainly point to many of the yellow warnings in the past as being unnecessary and evidence of the nanny state we live in.

When somthing a little more serious pops up as is the case today your 'average jo' is completely desensitised and sets about their life safe in their knowledge that it is a big fuss about nothing!

We can only hope that when a storm comes that is worth warnings 80mph to 100mph) and occurs during a rush hour people are taking their phone apps and news broadcasts seriously.

As I said earlier, pay attention to the M.O now.

Where they have the strongest warnings is where the highest winds will be.

People still cherry picking random model runs to show their  back yard might be worse than expert predictions and where the highest winds will be

If you switch from yellow to Amber today then you will be in for a rough ride, not historic, but watch out for that flying trampoline!

[LewisMcCallum]

Already seeing gusts up to 77mph on some personal weather stations on west coast of Ireland with the low still some 600 miles out...

[alexisj9]

12 minutes ago, Polar Maritime said:

Amber Warning extended to nearly all the UK. Never seen that before..

Wow, and to be honest expected. I can not believe there's people in here saying we are hyping this up. It's going to be a major storm, OK probably not as strong as the extreme stuff some are after, but very stronge winds for hours country wide is serious even so. There will be areas with extreme gusts too.

Edited January 21 by alexisj9

[chris78]

1 minute ago, sunnijim said:

Totally with you on this.

However I would suggest impacts are likely from this one so warnings are required.

We could certainly point to many of the yellow warnings in the past as being unnecessary and evidence of the nanny state we live in.

When somthing a little more serious pops up as is the case today your 'average jo' is completely desensitised and sets about their life safe in their knowledge that it is a big fuss about nothing!

We can only hope that when a storm comes that is worth warnings 80mph to 100mph) and occurs during a rush hour people are taking their phone apps and news broadcasts seriously.

As I said earlier, pay attention to the M.O now.

Where they have the strongest warnings is where the highest winds will be.

People still cherry picking random model runs to show their  back yard might be worse than expert predictions and where the highest winds will be

If you switch from yellow to Amber today then you will be in for a rough ride, not historic, but watch out for that flying trampoline!

I'd say the objections to warnings are more evidence of a nannying attitude, a sort of infantalisation of the public.  Warnings come with caveats and likelihood attached, that leaves mature rational adults with the information needed to make plans or change plans if they wish to. 

[Donna3397]

52 minutes ago, Wivenswold said:

It does seem to be the bit of Kent that juts out into the Channel that gets the worst. My mate up the road from you says pretty much the same thing as you.
Fingers crossed you all stay damage-free down there today.

Thank you so much for your kindness

[alexisj9]

5 minutes ago, sunnijim said:

Totally with you on this.

However I would suggest impacts are likely from this one so warnings are required.

We could certainly point to many of the yellow warnings in the past as being unnecessary and evidence of the nanny state we live in.

When somthing a little more serious pops up as is the case today your 'average jo' is completely desensitised and sets about their life safe in their knowledge that it is a big fuss about nothing!

We can only hope that when a storm comes that is worth warnings 80mph to 100mph) and occurs during a rush hour people are taking their phone apps and news broadcasts seriously.

As I said earlier, pay attention to the M.O now.

Where they have the strongest warnings is where the highest winds will be.

People still cherry picking random model runs to show their  back yard might be worse than expert predictions and where the highest winds will be

If you switch from yellow to Amber today then you will be in for a rough ride, not historic, but watch out for that flying trampoline!

I can do the opposite and point to numerous strong easterlies that should have been at least yellow and caused damage down here, with no warnings.

[minus10]

20 minutes ago, Polar Maritime said:

Amber Warning extended to nearly all the UK. Never seen that before..

Interesting that the London area , parts of central and eastern areas only left out of the amber...what is it about this part of the country that would result in the winds being somewhat less strong given that parts of cambridgeshire are in the amber. .also given the large population of the London area and home counties which is as i understand is taken into account for the warnings...

[Scuba steve]

27 minutes ago, minus10 said:

Interesting that the London area , parts of central and eastern areas only left out of the amber...what is it about this part of the country that would result in the winds being somewhat less strong given that parts of cambridgeshire are in the amber. .also given the large population of the London area and home counties which is as i understand is taken into account for the warnings...

Thought it would be amber owing to the fact construction rarely factors severe  weather in the SE where up here everything’s generally built storm proof 

Edited January 21 by Scuba steve

[sunnijim]

19 minutes ago, chris78 said:

I'd say the objections to warnings are more evidence of a nannying attitude, a sort of infantalisation of the public.  Warnings come with caveats and likelihood attached, that leaves mature rational adults with the information needed to make plans or change plans if they wish to. 

I'm not sure anyone is objecting to warnings?

The assumption that the population are all mature rational adults is open to some debate as is that folk rushed off their feet have time to study caveats.

[Somerset girl]

Goodness me didn't expect an Amber 24hours ago, I think I'll make sure the garden is as safe as can be.  

Just starting to hear a gust or two down the chimney . 

Stay safe everyone . 

[WalsallWeather]

I’m not surprised to see the amber warning cover more of the UK now. 
The period of time these strong winds will occur isn’t seen often. I mean, we’ll all be seeing hours of strong winds all evening and tonight, it doesn’t happen all too often to be this strong for this long. 

[ANYWEATHER]

Seems very odd that met office have blanketed the uk in warnings and left a small section out. For instance , follow the A44 towards Oxford /London from where I live and about 18 miles down the road it's in the clear?  Chipping Norton is about 22 miles away from where I live , and that's in the clear, and yet Chipping Norton is one of the highest towns in the Cotswolds, at about 700ft ,much higher than where I live! I think the wind will be even worse for Chipping Norton than my location ,seeing it's height and exposure. .....uummmmmgh !

[lorenzo]

Current Obs align well to the Met Office Fax from earlier, still some deepening to go on Isha, and this deepening phase happening right on our doorstep.

Another 10mb to drop and you can see the extent of the wind-field on UKV which has ushered in the Amber.

 

Second pulse slams into Western Isles by midnight

[cj114]

31 minutes ago, sunnijim said:

Totally with you on this.

However I would suggest impacts are likely from this one so warnings are required.

We could certainly point to many of the yellow warnings in the past as being unnecessary and evidence of the nanny state we live in.

When somthing a little more serious pops up as is the case today your 'average jo' is completely desensitised and sets about their life safe in their knowledge that it is a big fuss about nothing!

We can only hope that when a storm comes that is worth warnings 80mph to 100mph) and occurs during a rush hour people are taking their phone apps and news broadcasts seriously.

As I said earlier, pay attention to the M.O now.

Where they have the strongest warnings is where the highest winds will be.

People still cherry picking random model runs to show their  back yard might be worse than expert predictions and where the highest winds will be

If you switch from yellow to Amber today then you will be in for a rough ride, not historic, but watch out for that flying trampoline!

On 19/01/2024 at 09:57, Skullzrulerz said:

Amber Warning for Wind just came out.

 

Just remembered the '87 storm. My friends Son went into their Bedroom saying "Dad, there's a Tree in our Garden", Dad "We have lots of Trees Son", Son "But it's not our Tree!"

[NorthAtlanticCyclogenesis]

Starting to wrap around now. Wouldn't be surprised to hear about a Sting Jet with this later in the evening / after midnight.

 

 

[sunnijim]

1 minute ago, cj114 said:

Just remembered the '87 storm. My friends Son went into their Bedroom saying "Dad, there's a Tree in our Garden", Dad "We have lots of Trees Son", Son "But it's not our Tree!"

Yes " mum, dad, nan and Grandads conservatory chairs have just flown past"

The destruction of the wooden conservatory next door saw everything within it take flight lit by live power cables falling all around.

A night that will forever live in the memory.

[alexisj9]

27 minutes ago, minus10 said:

Interesting that the London area , parts of central and eastern areas only left out of the amber...what is it about this part of the country that would result in the winds being somewhat less strong given that parts of cambridgeshire are in the amber. .also given the large population of the London area and home counties which is as i understand is taken into account for the warnings...

Shelter from the sw by Chiltern perhaps plus very long land track 

[NorthAtlanticCyclogenesis]

3 hours between pics.  8am and 11am. Very obvious wrap around (hook) starting. 

 

 

[StingJet]

1 minute ago, alexisj9 said:

Shelter from the sw by Chiltern perhaps plus very long land track 

& the South Downs