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coldfingers Enthusiast

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  • Location: Bognor Regis West Sussex
  • Location: Bognor Regis West Sussex
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ESK is the one nearer Katla, isn't it?

Esk is the seismic station nearest to the currently erupting volcano. (and no, i am not even going to try to spell it! :lol: )

Katla is the HVO station.

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The PIT Maestro

The PIT

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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KLM say they would not fly in that area - Iceland-Russia. They want to fly in the pockets where the dust is negligible.

ESK is the one nearer Katla, isn't it?

Yes but what everyone else knows they cannot predict where the ash will be. Unless they've developed a new detection system that keeping under their hat.

ESK I've just noticed has come back online and no it's not the one for Katla. I suspect that the Katla sensor is actually picking up the present eurption. The increase is interesting as it doesn't seem to be connected in an increase of surface activity yet.

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frostyjoe Newbie

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  • Location: Coleraine,Macosquin,County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
  • Location: Coleraine,Macosquin,County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
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Well it dissapeared and like an eejit i pressed F5 and the page is still loading LOL doh.gif

well your not losing anything because it aint there!

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  • Location: Mansfield, Notts 123m ASL
  • Location: Mansfield, Notts 123m ASL
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Got it back up again. Like you say Joe, plane gone. Looks lie the image went at 18:43 according to the replay. Sure it will re-appear soon

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risk of sleet Rookie

risk of sleet

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  • Location: Llandysul, Ceredigion, Wales
  • Location: Llandysul, Ceredigion, Wales
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Was watching that virtual radar for the 747 from Heathrow. Just been outside and there's a big fat, spread contrail overhead going east-west.

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Mikel Nimbus Explorer

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  • Location: Barnet, North London
  • Location: Barnet, North London
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Isn't it normal for flights to disappear from these types of radars when over the Atlantic? Who remembers the Air France flight which went down in a severe thunderstorm last year? It was difficult to locate the wreckage as the plane can not be accurately tracked whilst over the ocean.

Having said that, I'd expect the plane to be a lot closer to Cardiff by now if it is expecting to land at 20:30.

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frostyjoe Newbie

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  • Location: Coleraine,Macosquin,County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
  • Location: Coleraine,Macosquin,County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
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BAW9156 is approcing Ireland from the west.

is it on that we radar?

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frostyjoe Newbie

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  • Location: Coleraine,Macosquin,County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
  • Location: Coleraine,Macosquin,County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
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It is on www.flightradar24.com I can't see it on Casper.

ok thanks ill watch it come into the casper radar soon.. that planes flying very fast isn't it.. i thought it would take far longer to fly from london to the west of ireland would it not?

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saint Rising Star

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  • Location: Herts
  • Location: Herts
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A few planes have just crossed the border into France. None of which are KLM but start with the call sign 'CFG'

Test planes?

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Delta76 Newbie

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  • Location: Rotherham , South Yorkshire 137m a.s.l
  • Location: Rotherham , South Yorkshire 137m a.s.l
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A few planes have just crossed the border into France. None of which are KLM but start with the call sign 'CFG'

Test planes?

Condor . its a german airline theres a fleet of five of them .

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  • Location: South Woodham Ferrers, height 15 metres
  • Location: South Woodham Ferrers, height 15 metres
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One thing to consider about the Finnish jet - the faster you fly the more damage the dust will do to the engine. An F-18 jet planes goes 1100 mph while a 747 at maximum goes half that. Fly at the speed of sound through the core of a volcanic plume and you're asking for damage. Fly a 747 at half speed through the outer bands of the plume and you will sustain much much less damage. I can't quantify this but aircraft technicians presumably could.

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Delta76 Newbie

Delta76

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  • Location: Rotherham , South Yorkshire 137m a.s.l
  • Location: Rotherham , South Yorkshire 137m a.s.l
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BA test flight in the descent now NW of cork down to 21,000ft

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john w Explorer

john w

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  • Location: Bracknell, Berkshire
  • Location: Bracknell, Berkshire
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Problem with the radar sites is they are not officiel, people connect up local radars all over the country and it kind of forms a national one...a bigger radar than most ATCO will see actually. Though an ATCO radar will be more accurate.

Cross atlantic, yes there are less but the NAT tracks flown do have radar for a fair bit of coverage, the odd remote radar will feed in and of course where air traffic remote radars are, there is unlikely to be an enthusiast with similar kit, per se in the location of some of the remote radars used for ATCO.

On to the airliner issue. I would be surprised if allowances are made. But this is unpresedented all the same.

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
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But what about my baby sweetcorn and mange tout!!!!!!

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AtlanticFlamethrower Explorer

AtlanticFlamethrower

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  • Location: South Woodham Ferrers, height 15 metres
  • Location: South Woodham Ferrers, height 15 metres
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But what about my baby sweetcorn and mange tout!!!!!!

You veggie. What about my Danish bacon, New Zealand lamb chops and German sausages?

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coldfingers Enthusiast

coldfingers

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  • Location: Bognor Regis West Sussex
  • Location: Bognor Regis West Sussex
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You veggie. What about my Danish bacon, New Zealand lamb chops and German sausages?

And what's wrong with dandelian leaves, nettles, rabbits and even the odd rat if necesary? :wallbash:

Very worrying the way the seismic charts are showing continued rises at esk and hvo. If Katla should blow then this could last months not days or weeks. 8)

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Delta76 Newbie

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  • Location: Rotherham , South Yorkshire 137m a.s.l
  • Location: Rotherham , South Yorkshire 137m a.s.l
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BAW9156 ( test flight) on final approach into Cardiff International Airport coming in from the WNW now .

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Cric_lancster Newbie

Cric_lancster

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Dry summers, chilly winters
  • Location: Darlington
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Very worrying the way the seismic charts are showing continued rises at esk and hvo. If Katla should blow then this could last months not days or weeks. shok.gif

Hmmm yes not great news. Forgive me if I'm wrong but is it 'harmonic' tremor that is the worrying one, any one know if any has been about lately around Katla/how to recognise it?

C.L.

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high ground birmingham

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  • Location: Harborne, Bham 187m asl
  • Location: Harborne, Bham 187m asl
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Isn't it normal for flights to disappear from these types of radars when over the Atlantic? Who remembers the Air France flight which went down in a severe thunderstorm last year? It was difficult to locate the wreckage as the plane can not be accurately tracked whilst over the ocean.

Having said that, I'd expect the plane to be a lot closer to Cardiff by now if it is expecting to land at 20:30.

Regarding that Air France flight you're talking about, did they ever find the wreckage or the black box?

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jello Enthusiast

jello

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  • Location: Belfast. 97m asl (Divis Mountain)
  • Location: Belfast. 97m asl (Divis Mountain)
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BA test flight on BBC news 24, coming into land

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PersianPaladin Aficionado

PersianPaladin

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  • Location: 4 miles north of Durham City
  • Location: 4 miles north of Durham City
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Yeah, but we do have to learn lessons from this event, though. I still feel enormously priveleged on the occasions when I get to fly anywhere, but there are people who use them like buses. There are people who commute to work in England from Northern France, for example, and how come it is more economic for an international company to fly its sales staff around the world rather than employ locals? After all, there is no hint of any green solutions imminent for planes and the US military last week warned about oil shortages as soon as 2015: http://www.guardian....oduction-supply

Time to get in the queue for an allotment....

People in this country don't care enough about green issues. Most people are ignorant of peak oil as well as the need to transfer to a steady-state economy.

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katemart Enthusiast

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  • Location: Southampton, UK
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, hot, hot! Or cold, cold, cold!
  • Location: Southampton, UK
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You veggie. What about my Danish bacon, New Zealand lamb chops and German sausages?

Yeh, veg schmedge - how we gonna grow bananas??? :wallbash:

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