Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull Volcano

[Coast]

Ive seen 4 flights now from the USA.....Flying straight over our airspace,

so how come we are not taking off very strange

They have to travel through the lower flight levels to get up to a cruising height that is deemed free of ash. It's the getting up there from airports South of Newcastle that's the problem dogs.

[AtlanticFlamethrower]

They have to travel through the lower flight levels to get up to a cruising height that is deemed free of ash. It's the getting up there from airports South of Newcastle that's the problem dogs.

I'm cynical. Perhaps this is political theatre designed to end on Wednesday in time for the next party leaders' debate?

A lot of the ash is precipitating out over the ocean between UK and Iceland.

[dogs32]

They have to travel through the lower flight levels to get up to a cruising height that is deemed free of ash. It's the getting up there from airports South of Newcastle that's the problem dogs.

cheers Coast..I did wonder what was going on :unsure:

[pyrotech]

Good quote from pilots associationthat sums it up

" rather be down here wishing i was up there, than up there wishing i was down here.

Pretty damn right too

[Paul Sherman]

KLM Test Flight heading back East to Amsterdam about 5 mins ago

: Put it on my Woburn Safari Park File :unsure:

[Coast]

If you stormchasers can get to Germany, there are several flights over us at 30,00 ft+ currently heading to the States!

Travellers rights - Q and A: www.ft.com

[dogs32]

If you stormchasers can get to Germany, there are several flights over us at 30,00 ft+ currently heading to the States!

yes directly to Dallas from Munich I think

[Paul Sherman]

If you stormchasers can get to Germany, there are several flights over us at 30,00 ft+ currently heading to the States!

2 Major Problems with that Robin

1st = Cost

After a quick scan around Single Tickets last night I found 4 Prices from Various Airports and with different Airlines

SpanAir from Madrid to DFW Via Philadelphia is £1,300 Single

AlItalia from Rome to DFW Via Chicago (Ord) is £1,798 Single

AA From Rome via Chicago (Ord) is £1,895 Single

Luftansia direct to DFW Have no availability until 29th April.

So as well as cost the dates for flights is just not possible.

:unsure:

[Paul Sherman]

Yay found one with Luftansia on the 26th April.............for £3,200 Single

Pi$$ Takers

[The PIT]

Well the plume is getting higher much less vigorous than before so less ash. Tremor falling slowly as well.

[Coast]

So as well as cost the dates for flights is just not possible.

:unsure: Back to the drawing board. What bits and bobs have you got in your shed?

Or you could be really lucky: news.bbc.co.uk

[dogs32]

:unsure: Back to the drawing board. What bits and bobs have you got in your shed?

Or you could be really lucky: news.bbc.co.uk

thats one option..any others

Edited April 20, 2010 by dogs32

[Mondy]

Kamchatka volcano over Eastern Russia erupts

[cooling climate]

Web cams are back on although for how long is anyones guess.

[jello]

Latest Update 1:00pm 20/04/2010

BAA All flights at Gatwick, Heathrow, Stansted and Southhampton airports remain suspended.

All flights cancelled at Birmingham and Manchester airports until 7:00pm

Glasgow and Belfast airports have closed

Some Airports in Scotland and Newcastle operating limited services

A luxury cruise ship is putting its inaugural celebrations on hold to come to the rescue of stranded holidaymakers. Tour operators have asked Celebrity Eclipse to head to Bilbao in Spain to pick up about 2,000 people, who can enjoy a real lawn measuring nearly half an acre, as well as bars, 10 restaurants, a casino, a theatre and swimming and spa pools.

LD Lines ferry company has limited foot passenger capacity on its crossings to the UK from Le Havre and Dieppe but there is some car space available. There are vehicle spaces on its Dover-Boulogne and Ramsgate-Ostend services.

Latest Update 12:30pm 20/04/2010

Information from an unconfirmed source reports that Flybe flight BE 128 from Glasgow (GLA) to Belfast (BHD) that arrived at 11:48 AM may have suffered damage. We are currently trying to get confirmation, there is currently no official information to suggest that this flight had suffered damage.

Latest Update 12:20pm 20/04/2010

Aberdeen, Inverness, Edinburgh, Newcastle and Belfast City Airports are currently open but operating limited services. Airports are expected to be closed again from 1:00pm until 7:00pm [subject to review]. Restrictions will remain in place over the UK airspace below 20,000ft. as a result of a new ash cloud.

Brittany Ferries currently has no space on any Spanish services until 29 April. Public are urged not to go to Santander as there are no more spaces on commercial ferries. It suggests that foot passengers wanting to sail into Portsmouth should consider the French ports of Caen, Cherbough, Roscoff and St Malo.

EasyJet has cancelled flights to and from northern Europe, including the UK, until 1:00am on Wednesday

The first flight for four days between Northern Ireland and Scotland has landed. The Flybe Edinburgh-Belfast flight arrived at 1047.

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Edited April 20, 2010 by jello

[nick sussex]

How is it that many French airports are opening today and yet the London ones remain shut, then how can Manchester open at 7pm but yet still nothing from London? Is the volcano ash now having a love in with just the SE!

There is no transparency in the decision making of NATS and other main bodies dealing with this, i wish one of the newscasters would ask the reasons behind the current status quo. Looking at todays events it does throw up some questions, are many European countries taking a chance with passanger safety or are the UK authorities unwilling to open up the London airports until the ash has completely cleared and don't want lots of people turning up with the situation unstable, if this is the case why don't they just come out and say so, also are the UK authorities being more strict regarding flying, its either safe to fly or not so todays events in Europe just confuse the situation.

[Paul Sherman]

Worryingly I am starting to hear of Reports that Virgin Atlantic are Cancelling all Outbound Passengers flying from LHR/LGW To The States for Fridays flights already.

Edit: There is something very very dodgy about all this Nick!

[nick sussex]

Worryingly I am starting to hear of Reports that Virgin Atlantic are Cancelling all Outbound Passengers flying from LHR/LGW To The States for Fridays flights already.

Edit: There is something very very dodgy about all this Nick!

That is strange as the models all have the upper winds changing into Friday as that low moves east, really by late Thursday we should see the ash cloud beginning to edge ne and during Friday I would expect many UK airports to start opening. But of course the media don't want to say too much and would rather be sticking with their misery for the foreseeable future as that makes for better headlines!

Edited April 20, 2010 by nick sussex

[Mondy]

http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/BAW

8 BA flights inbound

[Paul Sherman]

That is strange as the models all have the upper winds changing into Friday as that low moves east, really by late Thursday we should see the ash cloud beginning to edge ne and during Friday I would expect many UK airports to start opening.

From another Weather Forum as well - See Below

When will it be safe to fly again? Obviously not Friday as my girlfriends parents flight from London to Las Vegas with virgin has just been cancelled?????

[nick sussex]

From another Weather Forum as well - See Below

When will it be safe to fly again? Obviously not Friday as my girlfriends parents flight from London to Las Vegas with virgin has just been cancelled?????

I think what might be happening is that passengers that have been delayed against those scheduled to leave towards the weekend will be given precedence and also perhaps the planes are not in the right place given many might still be stranded in the USA and Canada. I would be very surprised if all the UK airports aren't operating at full capacity by late Friday but definitely Saturday.

[dogs32]

like Mondy points out in his post,surely they could fly further South like the current jets coming in from Florida..

cant see the problem seeing other jets in France are flying and USA flights are entering in this country..

doesnt make sense

[Mondy]

Anymore info on the Flybe Glasgow to Belfast flight which may have suffered damage? Where's this news coming from?

[Iceberg]

All those flights are due in after 7.00pm, when they though London would be open, if it's not I would imagine they would be diverted to either an open UK airport or somewhere in Europe.

[Mondy]

Doha to Edinburgh, B777. Not something you see very often! Due in 19:30 tonight.

Re: the BA jets, I suspect they will go to Spain if deemed too risky for UK arrivals.