Snow And Ice In The Northern Hemisphere 2012/13

[gottolovethisweather]

Trough coming off the Gulf of Bothnia giving some snow showers to parts of western Finland.

http://cdn.nwstatic..../fax/PPVA89.png

http://en.ilmatietee...outhern-finland

http://www2.liikenne...a-C1053402.html

Are you having anymore snow Granite?

Regards,

Tom

Some good links there Tom.

[4wd]

Scotland was TWICE as cold as parts of Siberia, with temperatures in Vladivostock

Blimey, there's a statement open to interpretation.

[quest4peace]

Blimey, there's a statement open to interpretation.

Scotland does look rather cold and snowy for our time of year at least currently 8c in Tyndrum in the highlands and 5c in Aberdeen Scotland Considering some parts of Siberia are mighty cold and snowy at the moment seems slightly ott to be fair Also 13C in Vladivostok isn't that balmy either is it? i think it's their average October temp anyway seeing as they are near the Korean/ Russia/ China border?

Edited October 27, 2012 by quest4peace

[Harve]

Considering some parts of Siberia are mighty cold and snowy at the moment seems slightly ott to be fair but13C in Vladivostok is quite balmy to be fair.

Firstly, Vladivostok isn't really part of Siberia. And more importantly, it's ridiculous to say that 12c is twice as warm as 6c: 0c isn't absolute zero! Is 0.2c twice as warm as 0.1c, is it going to make you feel twice as warm?

[Aaron]

Vladivostok avg. max temp in October 13.0C avg. min 6.0C, same as many places in the UK. It cools rapidly in November.

Edited October 27, 2012 by Aaron

[quest4peace]

Firstly, Vladivostok isn't really part of Siberia. And more importantly, it's ridiculous to say that 12c is twice as warm as 6c: 0c isn't absolute zero! Is 0.2c twice as warm as 0.1c, is it going to make you feel twice as warm?

Hi Harve It's more or less on the south eastern border of Siberia and also borders with China and North Korea to be exact 0.2 is twice 0.1 by the way. But you are right however saying you wouldn't feel any warmer with such a small difference .

Also 12c is indeed twice as warm as 6c by anybody's working ,2 x 6 =12 so not ridiculous at all absolute zero is −270 °C by the way

Edited October 27, 2012 by quest4peace

[MKN]

Surely if 1c is twice as warm as 0c. Then 0.2c can't be twice as warm as 0.1c.. A tenth warmer?

[Methuselah]

Any chance of getting back on topic?

[Aaron]

Does everything have to be on topic all the time? A bit of thread divergence is actually a good thing, it stops the life being sucked out of threads.

Edited October 27, 2012 by Aaron

[lottiekent]

Here is today's map - not much change in the ice but snowfall across parts of Europe and Western Russia has exploded! I've also posted yesterday's map underneath for comparison.

[J10]

Here is today's map - not much change in the ice but snowfall across parts of Europe and Western Russia has exploded! I've also posted yesterday's map underneath for comparison.

A lot more snow in the Alps as well.

Edited October 27, 2012 by Jackone

[A Winter's Tale]

Here is today's map - not much change in the ice but snowfall across parts of Europe and Western Russia has exploded! I've also posted yesterday's map underneath for comparison.

Snow cover all in the right places, very good so progress so far and impressive growth in snowfall in the space of a day. Note the little white pixel across Scotland.

[MR EXTREMES]

Incredible amount of snow build up.

And its only Oct but if I remember right last Oct was about the same.

[A Winter's Tale]

Click on the pic to see how the snow and ice in the northern hemisphere has developed.

Edited October 27, 2012 by A Winter's Tale

[lottiekent]

Incredible amount of snow build up.

And its only Oct but if I remember right last Oct was about the same.

I think this year is a huge improvement on last year..or is that just me? Here is 27th October 2011:

And here is today's again:

The snow over Canada, Eastern Europe/Western Russia and Scandinavia is much better!

Edited October 27, 2012 by lottiekent

[NorthYorksWeather]

That is a substantial difference from last year, not sure what bearing it will have on the upcoming winter but surely its more likely to be positive. Really enjoying this thread good job guys

[BlueHedgehog074]

There has sure been a lot of snow shields smashed up around parts of Europe and Asia. http://forum.nwstatic.co.uk//public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.png Much weaker snow shields than last year allowing the cold air and wintry weather to penetrate through them easier. I suppose the Low Pressure systems got so fed up of all the sight seeing they did in Greenland last year, that they decided to do a tour around Europe instead. The more time the Low Pressure systems spend touring around Europe (rather than around Greenland, or even out West in the Atlantic (unless they deliver those chilly Atlantic polar maritime airflows)), the better we can see the UK's/Europe's snow barriers get wiped out, thus increasing the chances of snow cover from any potent snowy spells.

[summer blizzard]

Here is today's map - not much change in the ice but snowfall across parts of Europe and Western Russia has exploded! I've also posted yesterday's map underneath for comparison.

Christ, we've got the largest October snow extent on record!

This is great for winter.

[Neilsouth]

wow!

[liam300]

Sorry guys this discussion have confused me to some extent. How would the increase in snow accumulation, acknowledge it could be a good winter? Winter is still a little while off and how can snow accumlation predict what happens in the future?

[Tom Quintavalle]

Some very cold temps being recorded at the moment in N.Lappland over the snow cover there.

http://www2.liikennevirasto.fi/alk/english/kelikamerat/kamera-C1452302.html

http://www2.liikennevirasto.fi/alk/english/kelikamerat/kamera-C1452402.html

Nice radar shot of showers clipping into some of the coastal regions of the Nordic countries.

http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/precipitation-nordic-countries

Regards,

Tom

[carinthian]

Morning all,

Cold air reached here overnight with a widespread snowfall down to lower levels. Live web cams show a substantial snowfall in the Northern Austrian Alps and particularly in the Southern German uplands with blizzard conditions close to the frontal trough.

C

[gottolovethisweather]

Sorry guys this discussion have confused me to some extent. How would the increase in snow accumulation, acknowledge it could be a good winter? Winter is still a little while off and how can snow accumlation predict what happens in the future?

Hi Liam,

Like anything in Meteorology , it is not especially easy to answer your question without going into things at great length. I hope others will have the time to provide some information for you.

The basic gist of things is that if the Euro High sets up over Europe (as it did last season) this tends to prevent a build up of laying snow over the nearby continent, in turn making things milder, save for late winter. Generally, for colder snowier spells to effect the UK, we invariably need winds to come from a North-westerly to South-easterly quadrant on the compass. So, if as suggested, any early build up in snowcover does come along (especially October/November) this is thought to have an effect on global weather patterns, which in turn, effect the UK.

The main point to note is that our island is effected by weather/climate patterns on a global scale, hence many folk track changes in the Stratosphere and follow other factors throughout the winter.

Never be afraid to ask for assistance in these forums, as we are all still learning.

The cryposphre link is a day or two behind but the next update will be worth a comparison.

Edited October 28, 2012 by gottolovethisweather

[Ice Day]

The snow over Canada, Eastern Europe/Western Russia and Scandinavia is much better!

It certainly is. Finland is now 100% covered and there's even a few pixels showing in Scotland! It's probably too much to hope that all the new snow is going to stick, but positive signs nonetheless

[Optimus Prime]

A nail in the coffin for the theory that explosive snow cover often follows major ice loss? The snow cover explosion has been remarkable this year (and so has the ice loss)