Winter 2022/23 - Moans, Ramps & Chat

[mathematician]

I also think this cold spell will be a huge disappointment for a lot of people

 

I hope I'm wrong, like i said it before, but i just can't see a lot of precipitation . It's going to be cold but mostly dry unfortunately in my opinion 

[coffeeandtv]

1 hour ago, CreweCold said:

How do the homeless in Canada and other countries that routinely face near-Arctic conditions manage? They get shelter. Just like the homeless in this country are offered when the weather turns nasty to sleep out in.

That's absolute nonsense and needs to be called out. The lack of compassion demonstrated in that post is quite something. 

[JoeShmoe]

Why is it every morning the charts being posted are t+168, 192, 210 etc? Always in the unreliable range. And booms everywhere. 

odd to see so little cold air in North America / Canada though 

Edited December 6, 2022 by JoeShmoe

[V for Very Cold]

Personally, I’m really excited by the models showing ‘proper’ wintry weather. I balance that with my concern for the vast number of people who ARE struggling, homeless or not. It’s not much, but the best I can do is to donate to Shelter and the warm banks (not as a salve to my conscience I hasten to add)
 

 

 

[V for Very Cold]

And please let the cold spell lift for 18th Dec.... my flights booked lol

[Cheshire Freeze]

34 minutes ago, coffeeandtv said:

That's absolute nonsense and needs to be called out. The lack of compassion demonstrated in that post is quite something. 

How is that lacking compassion?

Most homeless people are offered accommodation in harsh conditions, just like they were during the pandemic.

Of course, some will decline for their own reasons and others may not get the offer at all unfortunately. However what I said was factually true.

Also, FYI, more than once I’ve offered food and money to the homeless locally. So don’t you dare call me lacking in compassion.

People should just come out and say they don’t like cold weather rather than trying to spit their bile about the output in the form of guilt tripping other members. I don’t find it hard to admit I hate hot weather!

Edited December 6, 2022 by CreweCold

[Gowon]

The charts this morning are getting me excited

 

[Glaswegianblizzard]

2 hours ago, 38.7°C said:

Not a guilt trip but you can't help thinking of the homeless when there is freezing weather.  As someone who was homeless sleeping rough myself for a short while in December 2000 I am very thankful for the few mild days and nights. Could've been much worse.  

I appreciate (and share) many of your concerns about the upcoming cold spell, however asking how anyone can like this type of weather does, on the face of it, appear to be an attempt to guilt trip others.

[Liam Burge]

Not trying to ramp or anything, but judging by the outputs we're currently seeing a national emergency will have to be put into affect for the upcoming cold spell. 'Central Government will declare a Level 4 alert in the event of severe or prolonged cold weather affecting sectors other than health.' This is most definitely going to be quite a prolonged and severe spell of cold weather, with no end in sight on the models currently.

[cobbett]

An 0z 10 day ECM showing winter nirvana - come the 12z only one way this is going

[Iceaxecrampon]

22 minutes ago, JoeShmoe said:

Why is it every morning the charts being posted are t+168, 192, 210 etc? Always in the unreliable range. And booms everywhere. 

odd to see so little cold air in North America / Canada though 

GFS…..

 

[V for Very Cold]

Typical.... all charts point to an extended cold spell, increasing the chance of (dare I say it) a White Christmas! 
 

Guess who’s not in the country! (If my flights not snowed in lol)

[Cheshire Freeze]

Just now, V for Very Cold said:

Typical.... all charts point to an extended cold spell, increasing the chance of (dare I say it) a White Christmas! 
 

Guess who’s not in the country! (If my flights not snowed in lol)

It’s ok, take one for the team

[cyclonic happiness]

42 minutes ago, mathematician said:

I also think this cold spell will be a huge disappointment for a lot of people

 

I hope I'm wrong, like i said it before, but i just can't see a lot of precipitation . It's going to be cold but mostly dry unfortunately in my opinion 

We're going to be sat under a very slack low, surrounded by very warm seas, as it's early in the winter still. We#re more liekly to struggle to stay dry/snowless

[cyclonic happiness]

15 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

How is that lacking compassion?

Most homeless people are offered accommodation in harsh conditions, just like they were during the pandemic.

Of course, some will decline for their own reasons and others may not get the offer at all unfortunately. However what I said was factually true.

Also, FYI, more than once I’ve offered food and money to the homeless locally. So don’t you dare call me lacking in compassion.

People should just come out and say they don’t like cold weather rather than trying to spit their bile about the output in the form of guilt tripping other members. I don’t find it hard to admit I hate hot weather!

Just remember Crewe, that yours and my loving bitter cold and snow, has no affect on the weather whatsoever, the weather will do as it pleases, so you can be totally guilt free, unless the other person is implying that you have a direct phone line to god and are asking him to make it cold.....then you should feel awful! 

[Cheshire Freeze]

5 minutes ago, cyclonic happiness said:

Just remember Crewe, that yours and my loving bitter cold and snow, has no affect on the weather whatsoever, the weather will do as it pleases, so you can be totally guilt free, unless the other person is implying that you have a direct phone line to god and are asking him to make it cold.....then you should feel awful! 

I’ll let a lot of things slide on here but when someone comes along and (wrongly) questions your integrity as a person, I tend to say something back.

Anyone who knows me in real life would name compassion and empathy as one of my most prominent traits! In fact if I had £1 for every time I heard ‘you’re too soft’ I’d be a rich man.

Edited December 6, 2022 by CreweCold

[Man With Beard]

56 minutes ago, Iceaxecrampon said:

 

That seems a tad premature! How often do we see features pop up at 24 hours notice in this kind of set-up? It's not like we'll be under a 1030mb high!

Wanted to comment on the social side of the cold spell. Now I'm very much against weather guilt tripping. But I can't help thinking this might be the worst possible year for the coldest winter of the millennium (that's imagination btw, not a forecast!). We hear rumours the country could actually run out of energy, and as much as they are pushed back, you do wonder. 

[Cheshire Freeze]

1 minute ago, Man With Beard said:

That seems a tad premature! How often do we see features pop up at 24 hours notice in this kind of set-up? It's not like we'll be under a 1030mb high!

Wanted to comment on the social side of the cold spell. Now I'm very much against weather guilt tripping. But I can't help thinking this might be the worst possible year for the coldest winter of the millennium (that's imagination btw, not a forecast!). We hear rumours the country could actually run out of energy, and as much as they are pushed back, you do wonder. 

We won’t run out of energy.

Actually, we might personally. Following these models is knackering!

Edited December 6, 2022 by CreweCold

[halny]

19 minutes ago, Liam Burge said:

Not trying to ramp or anything, but judging by the outputs we're currently seeing a national emergency will have to be put into affect for the upcoming cold spell. 

True. Prolonged periods of temperatures near or below zero as forecast may spell trouble for scarce gas reserves and tight electric generation capacity, especially if coupled with a cold, gloomy, windless spell, if after any snow the high settles over the north of the UK.

 

[cyclonic happiness]

7 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

I’ll let a lot of things slide on here but when someone comes along and (wrongly) questions your integrity as a person, I tend to say something back.

Anyone who knows me in real life would name compassion and empathy as one of my most prominent traits! In fact if I had £1 for every time I heard ‘you’re too soft’ I’d be a rich man.

No worries matey

I work for a charity looking after people with learning difficulties, and I only have to mention snow and a couple of people lynch me like I've just eaten a baby or something, it's always.........  "why would you wish for that, don't you know how much heating costs and that the elderly will struggle to get out, and just think of the animals!!" etc.

I always retort with "I hope to win the lottery too, but I guess you'd get angry with me for that as well?  Do you think I'm a god or something??"

I hope we have the coldest winter on record.....for the record!!   I also hope that there is so much snow, that I cannot get to work 400 yards away 

[Beanz]

25 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

We won’t run out of energy.

It depends what you mean by ‘running out’. 
 

Capacity induced blackouts will certainly feel like we’ve run out of energy, and they are quite a real risk right now…more so than Joe Public realises 

[Bristawl Si]

26 minutes ago, Beanz said:

It depends what you mean by ‘running out’. 
 

Capacity induced blackouts will certainly feel like we’ve run out of energy, and they are quite a real risk right now…more so than Joe Public realises 

Would take me back to the 70s, as the pic on the tv gradually got smaller, then......lights out, all out

[V for Very Cold]

Tell you what... the MOD thread is more exciting that Pre Christmas telly 

[carled]

I get bewildered by the excitement on the model thread followed by the BBC app and TV forecast showing nothing but a bit of frost and sunshine in the vast majority of the country. One group or t'other is in for egg on their collective face. 

[HellItsHot]

I suppose it’s possible to be massively looking forward to some proper winter weather AND have concern for the most vulnerable, AND fret about bills, AND worry about whether gas/electric might be rationed. 
 

In the binary world of the internet it is sometimes forgotten that you can have more than one thought at a time.