Storms and Convective discussion - September 2023

[Shaunado]

1 hour ago, Alderc 2.0 said:

Why does Realtimelightning and BlitzortungLive not pick up all the strikes in equatorial areas?

I think strikes are picked up by a network of lightning detectors owned by volunteers, often in their back gardens, and fed to the site, much like Weather Underground does for other weather data. I guess that there aren't many such people feeding into this site away from the 'West', therefore limiting its global accuracy

As for Weather & Radar, which is run by WetterOnline, I am not sure how they get their lightning data from (maybe satellites at a guess?)

I personally keep both tabs open when storms are forecast, as each seems to detect a slightly different array of sferics. That and the "My Lightning Tracker & Alerts" app!

[Sprites]

5 hours ago, Shaunado said:

Awesome! Looks like an even more lively storm has developed in S Sudan, several each second...

https://www.weatherandradar.co.uk/weather-map?center=1.74,30.96&zoom=4.53&layer=lr

Is there a sound setting for the sferics like blitzortung?

Edited September 4, 2023 by Sprites

[ChannelThunder]

3 hours ago, Alderc 2.0 said:

Why does Realtimelightning and BlitzortungLive not pick up all the strikes in equatorial areas?

Coverage of lightning detectors. As @Shaunado mentioned, it's a network largely owned by volunteers; of which there are hundreds in Europe, USA etc, but not many in Africa.

You can switch on a setting which shows you where they all are:

 

Close-up of the SE UK; where we have very good coverage:

Edited September 4, 2023 by ChannelThunder

[Shaunado]

17 minutes ago, Sprites said:

Is there a sound setting for the sferics like blitzortung?

Not to my knowledge, though not sure about desktop site. However, the aforementioned app does notify you if a strike hits within n miles of your location, which can be set at whatever distance you wish, which I find most useful.

[viking_smb]

i've noticed with the UKV for weds night, its starting to shift westwards as checked the 03z

Edited September 4, 2023 by viking_smb

[Flash bang flash bang etc]

Very warm here this evening

[Flash bang flash bang etc]

38 minutes ago, viking_smb said:

i've noticed with the UKV for weds night, its starting to shift westwards as checked the 03z

A giant eastward shift is needed tbf

[viking_smb]

46 minutes ago, Flash bang flash bang etc said:

A giant eastward shift is needed tbf

15z saying the same as 03z

[Eagle Eye]

We're feeding on scraps from the models. Meanwhile, the models aren't showing scraps in the Mediterranean. Imagine if that sort of thing came here. 

 

[viking_smb]

latest met office fax, has the trough on weds night smaller and further west, 

[Flash bang flash bang etc]

4 minutes ago, viking_smb said:

latest met office fax, has the trough on weds night smaller and further west, 

I know it’s been mentioned before somewhere, but what model do they use?

[viking_smb]

Just now, Flash bang flash bang etc said:

I know it’s been mentioned before somewhere, but what model do they use?

to be honest, I don't know, possibly a mix, I like their videos though

[Sprites]

A gentle cooldown from the north west could be a scenario.

 The hot weather gradually easing away to the south east, without any thundery weather.

I hope this doesn't happen of course...

Edited September 4, 2023 by Sprites

[Flash bang flash bang etc]

Just now, viking_smb said:

to be honest, I don't know, possibly a mix, I like their videos though

I thought UKMO was U.K. Met Office?

I use Ventusky and they have a model selector but I don’t really know what I’m doing other than ICON which turns every shower into a thunderstorm and GFS which seems to just be made up on the spot

[viking_smb]

Just now, Flash bang flash bang etc said:

I thought UKMO was U.K. Met Office?

I use Ventusky and they have a model selector but I don’t really know what I’m doing other than ICON which turns every shower into a thunderstorm and GFS which seems to just be made up on the spot

tbh I dont pay much attention to gfs, 

ECM and UKV tend to be on the ball, and UKMO, 

[Arnie Pie]

8 hours ago, Sparkiee storm said:

The 2016 storms were pretty vicious here.

I was in Halesowen away from my camera . but remember it well

Last years were half decent

 

 

[Metwatch]

Monsoon season going well I see.

[Sparkiee storm]

1 hour ago, Arnie Pie said:

I was in Halesowen away from my camera . but remember it well

Last years were half decent

 

 

Yeah CG bolts, shotgun thunder, some of the heaviest rain i've seen with flooding widespread locally, pretty much like the 16th June 2020 storms and also the 28th June 2012 event, but without the large hail, although some pea sized hail was in it too, along with some very strong gusts as the gust front came through. Also yeah last Septembers storms gave some stunning lightning.

[ChannelThunder]

One year ago!

Still annoyed about my camera settings/choice of lens on this, but it did lead to me educating myself more on certain things about lightning photography that I was perhaps overlooking a little. Still, made a little bit of money off of two national papers!

 

[Southern Storm]

1 hour ago, ChannelThunder said:

One year ago!

Still annoyed about my camera settings/choice of lens on this, but it did lead to me educating myself more on certain things about lightning photography that I was perhaps overlooking a little. Still, made a little bit of money off of two national papers!

 

That's an amazing photo! 

There will always be something you wish you could change when photographing lightning, I always think I could have done a better job after the fact.

But we must always remember that we are dealing with lightning, in a country that doesn't experience that much of it, that in itself makes the photo you posted very special indeed!

Let's hope for something to appear later this week, more epic shots to add to the library

[A Face like Thunder]

It was certainly thundery in the SE sixty five years ago on 5th September 1958. Philip Eden reported 131mm at Knockholt and 102mm at Eynsford (Kent), two tornados causing damage in the Horsham/ Gatwick area and the UK's largest hailstone, 10cm across and weighing 141g, which fell at Horsham. We were abroad at the time and I don't remember this event. 

[Coops241180]

crossing my fingers for a spectacular breakdown of this hot spell.. 

[alexisj9]

1 hour ago, A Face like Thunder said:

It was certainly thundery in the SE sixty five years ago on 5th September 1958. Philip Eden reported 131mm at Knockholt and 102mm at Eynsford (Kent), two tornados causing damage in the Horsham/ Gatwick area and the UK's largest hailstone, 10cm across and weighing 141g, which fell at Horsham. We were abroad at the time and I don't remember this event. 

I wasn't even born yet.

[Biggin]

Dont know if this has been mentioned on here but 

 

Record 61,000 lightning strikes in two hours kill 12 people

WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK

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Government announces £3,827 in compensation for families of each killed in lightning strikes

 

[It's a Philcast]

2 hours ago, A Face like Thunder said:

It was certainly thundery in the SE sixty five years ago on 5th September 1958. Philip Eden reported 131mm at Knockholt and 102mm at Eynsford (Kent), two tornados causing damage in the Horsham/ Gatwick area and the UK's largest hailstone, 10cm across and weighing 141g, which fell at Horsham. We were abroad at the time and I don't remember this event. 

It was even more thundery here in Bromsgrove on this day in 1968...... when my Mum gave birth to me!!  Babooom tish...........

....start the car!!