Wales Cymru Cold Spell Discussion

[joo]

Earlier today Metcheck was giving mega snow even for Cardiff tomorrow, now it's not. Now the met office are giving weather warnings for snow.

So who's right? Who's believing who.

All will be revealed ....................................... tomorrow

Hubby's just gone and parked his car at the end of the street. He's not taken it all the way down to the main road, so we're going for a "maybe it will, maybe it won't, but just in case" tactic.

signed

Confused of Caerphilly

[Cymro]

the sun is shining here and still the snow holds on - I got tough snow up here - there is melting - but there will be snow left ready for tomorrow's offerings to sit on - snow can hang around during the day if it's not in sun light around this time of year - if we have a very dull day with constant cloud cover and temps around 1 - 2 then snow will just sit there and not melt

Adam - you kept going on about sleet/rain - alsorts last night when the front got to you - when it got to me - there was noooooooo intermediate rain/sleet/hail period - it started as snow and finished this morning when i got up as a snow shower still - we in the south east of wales on reasonable high ground get a better chance of pure snow events cause we are well away from the coast and well away from the west coast influence of the gulf stream drift - oh and one other factor, we had longer to get a nice crispy frost down too

The time difference was literally 20 mins from when i started reporting sleet, well to me wet snow is sleet I'm a realist I report it how it is. I woke up to lying snow too everytime uve had lying snow so have I, I just don't go off on some stupid wwwwwwwooooo its a blizzard everytime a flake falls.

[andymusic]

any more snow for my area carms/pembs

METO have updated their warnings again Wales is more in the warning area now for tomorrow and another fresh warning has appeared for tuesday now also

http://www.metoffice...t_warnings.html

possiblly another half a foot of snow between monday and tuesday in places

Wales: Blaenau Gwent Caerphilly Merthyr Tydfil Monmouthshire Newport Rhondda Cynon Taff Torfaen

Heavy Snow Mon 22 Feb

There is a moderate risk of severe weather affecting parts of England and Wales. Rain spreading north may turn to snow and has the potential to give accumulations of 2 to 5 cm in places, with in excess of 7cm on high ground.

Issued at: 1103 Sun 21 Feb

Wales: Blaenau Gwent Caerphilly Carmarthenshire Ceredigion Conwy Denbighshire Flintshire Gwynedd Merthyr Tydfil Monmouthshire Powys Rhondda Cynon Taff Torfaen Wrexham

Heavy Snow Tue 23 Feb

There is a moderate risk of severe weather affecting parts of England and Wales. Rain moving northwards is likely to turn to snow giving further falls of 2 to 5 cm, with perhaps as much as 10cm in places, especially on high ground.

Issued at: 1128 Sun 21 Feb

The time difference was literally 20 mins from when i started reporting sleet, well to me wet snow is sleet I'm a realist I report it how it is. I woke up to lying snow too everytime uve had lying snow so have I, I just don't go off on some stupid wwwwwwwooooo its a blizzard everytime a flake falls.

you had to be here to see it Adam and I am a realist - I tell the truth - and there was noooooooooo sleet/wet snow/rain/hail/any other precip except snow from the first flake - I have a witness to back it up too - my other half Liza - and she has no real interest in the weather - but she'll confirm snow from the first flake and the fact that the snow was amazingly heavy with gigantic sized flakes - in fact the flakes were so big they were making mega shadows on the snow which looked like large insects - kind of like the film the mummy with the beatles - again - something my other half Liza commented on

Edited February 21, 2010 by andymusic

[nomad098]

Hi all anyone got any timings on the next event from the mteo warnings it seems they are sticking closer to the early NAE run than the lataest on with thing being further west

[andymusic]

Hi all anyone got any timings on the next event from the mteo warnings it seems they are sticking closer to the early NAE run than the lataest on with thing being further west

nobody really knows - originally it was about 4 - 5am tomorrow but the last GFS run showed the front missing wales altogether - can't help you on this one I'm afraid - nowcasting/radar/lampost/head out the window if you fancy a late night or early morning

How's this for a bit more confusion about tomorrow's snow - the meto have an advisory out in text form for some parts of wales for the morning - so it should follow they should have parts of Wales shaded in yellow - well - just to confuse us -

they aren't shaded in yellow - so is the advisory on or off??????????????????????????????

update - it's changed to yellow now mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Edited February 21, 2010 by andymusic

[nomad098]

Well looking at the sat24 and the radar seems to be a lot of percipitation moving up from the south

temps going down nicely here how ever dewpoints rising looks like Cardiff could be in for a wet start to monday

but if the proffesionals a struggling it doesn't hold out much hope for the rest of us to

predict the outcome

[andymusic]

Well looking at the sat24 and the radar seems to be a lot of percipitation moving up from the south

temps going down nicely here how ever dewpoints rising looks like Cardiff could be in for a wet start to monday

but if the proffesionals a struggling it doesn't hold out much hope for the rest of us to

predict the outcome

I'm not even gonna go there - radar will suffice - only tool to rely on

[alijoe]

I'm not even gonna go there - radar will suffice - only tool to rely on

Well just looked at Ian Fergusons blog from this morning. He looked extremely confident of no snow for south west and gloucester etc and just midlands. I think it looks a real no no, but with all the praying im doing to get it for my sons birthday tomorrow, I am hoping someone can pull it out of the bag for us. lol

Edited February 21, 2010 by alijoe

[DeepSnow]

Well looks like we could get rain for some of south wales tomorrow then going by meto not having a warning out for costal areas in the south! temp 3C and dont think it will drop much more if atall. Could of done with an extra day off school lol. Not looking foward to it being cold and wet!

Edited February 21, 2010 by Deepsnow

[marclt]

Latest metoffice warnings:

Risk of disruption Warning Valid

Wales:

Blaenau Gwent

Caerphilly

Merthyr Tydfil

Monmouthshire

Newport

Rhondda Cynon Taff

Torfaen

Heavy Snow Mon 22 Feb

There is a moderate risk of severe weather affecting parts of England and Wales. Rain spreading north may turn to snow and has the potential to give accumulations of 2 to 5 cm in places, with a risk of 7cm on high ground. The snow should clear away eastwards later in the day.

Issued at: 1612 Sun 21 Feb

Wales:

Blaenau Gwent

Caerphilly

Carmarthenshire

Ceredigion

Conwy

Denbighshire

Flintshire

Gwynedd

Merthyr Tydfil

Monmouthshire

Powys

Rhondda Cynon Taff

Torfaen

Wrexham

Heavy Snow Tue 23 Feb

There is a moderate risk of severe weather affecting parts of England and Wales. Rain moving northwards is likely to turn to snow giving further falls of 2 to 5 cm, with perhaps as much as 10cm in places, especially on high ground.

Issued at: 1128 Sun 21 Feb

Wales:

Ceredigion

Conwy

Denbighshire

Flintshire

Gwynedd

Powys

Wrexham

Heavy Snow Wed 24 Feb

There is a moderate risk of severe weather affecting parts of England, Wales, Southern Scotland and Northern Ireland. Outbreaks of snow may give further falls of 2 to 5 cm, with in excess of 10cm possible in places, especially on high ground. Strong northeasterly winds may cause some drifting.

Issued at: 1140 Sun 21 Feb

[andymusic]

Well just looked at Ian Fergusons blog from this morning. He looked extremely confident of no snow for south west and gloucester etc and just midlands. I think it looks a real no no, but with all the praying im doing to get it for my sons birthday tomorrow, I am hoping someone can pull it out of the bag for us. lol

praying and radar now is the only things that might work - and a snow dance

[nomad098]

Can anyone explain why the temps are dropping like a stone but the due points rising just as fast:unknw:

[lukemc]

Can anyone explain why the temps are dropping like a stone but the due points rising just as fast:unknw:

Surely that would mean fog is likely, not snow!

Luke

[andymusic]

Can anyone explain why the temps are dropping like a stone but the due points rising just as fast:unknw:

weird

just went outside - freezing cold now - even though there are clouds in the sky - the beginings of this "front" for early in the morning perhaps

Surely that would mean fog is likely, not snow!

Luke

or you've got faulty measuring gear (although i do know it's possible)

Edited February 21, 2010 by andymusic

[nomad098]

The readings are coming from Cardiff barrage funny thing is something similar

happened last night as well just not quite so marked in the temp dropping and the dewpoint rising

[andymusic]

Well just looked at Ian Fergusons blog from this morning. He looked extremely confident of no snow for south west and gloucester etc and just midlands. I think it looks a real no no, but with all the praying im doing to get it for my sons birthday tomorrow, I am hoping someone can pull it out of the bag for us. lol

have a look on raintoday or meto radar babe - about 5 miles or so away from you right now there's some lovely precip to the south of you - not the main front - but maybe a good sign

Edited February 21, 2010 by andymusic

[andy_leics22]

Earlier today Metcheck was giving mega snow even for Cardiff tomorrow, now it's not. Now the met office are giving weather warnings for snow.

So who's right? Who's believing who.

All will be revealed ....................................... tomorrow

Hubby's just gone and parked his car at the end of the street. He's not taken it all the way down to the main road, so we're going for a "maybe it will, maybe it won't, but just in case" tactic.

signed

Confused of Caerphilly

I highly doubt it will snow in Caerphilly tonight or tomorrow. Depends what elevation you are. Anywhere under 250m and I would say forget about it.

[andymusic]

I highly doubt it will snow in Caerphilly tonight or tomorrow. Depends what elevation you are. Anywhere under 250m and I would say forget about it.

really - if it gets here, big if, it'll be here (the main part of thr front) in the early hours - best time at even lower altitudes than that to produce some snow. Joo had a fair bit of snow last night

it's getting closer ali

Edited February 21, 2010 by andymusic

[alijoe]

have a look on raintoday or meto radar babe - about 5 miles or so away from you right now there's some lovely precip to the south of you - not the main front - but maybe a good sign

Well fingers crossed. Funny though, the snow gritters are all out tonight, just drove past my front door, then saw 2 on the main road when I nipped to the shops..... do they know something we don't? I blumming well hope so

[andymusic]

Well fingers crossed. Funny though, the snow gritters are all out tonight, just drove past my front door, then saw 2 on the main road when I nipped to the shops..... do they know something we don't? I blumming well hope so

probably three things - gonna be frosty - meto have warnings out - 1st day of working week tomorrow - they don't want to get criticised

[alijoe]

really - if it gets here, big if, it'll be here (the main part of thr front) in the early hours - best time at even lower altitudes than that to produce some snow. Joo had a fair bit of snow last night

it's getting closer ali

oh you tease lol..... I am going to lift my blind up now to see the lamp post just outside my house. lol will let you know if anything happens.

[andymusic]

oh you tease lol..... I am going to lift my blind up now to see the lamp post just outside my house. lol will let you know if anything happens.

it's running from south west to north east just underneath you in the channel now - and it's moving slowly northwards too - you should see some light "precip" I think in the next hour or so

be aware though it may not be snow now as it may be too light and the heavier main band may contain the goods if it gets this far north - I'll let you know when it's over you

Edited February 21, 2010 by andymusic

[mickeyflyn]

it's running from south west to north east just underneath you in the channel now - and it's moving slowly northwards too - you should see some light "precip" I think in the next hour or so

be aware though it may not be snow now as it may be too light and the heavier main band may contain the goods if it gets this far north - I'll let you know when it's over you

its to warm out there for snow, i have not long left redwick and it was 5 deg c .

[alijoe]

it's running from south west to north east just underneath you in the channel now - and it's moving slowly northwards too - you should see some light "precip" I think in the next hour or so

be aware though it may not be snow now as it may be too light and the heavier main band may contain the goods if it gets this far north - I'll let you know when it's over you

cheers Andy. I'm not expecting anything really so if anything did happen, it would be a brucie bonus.

[andymusic]

its to warm out there for snow, i have not long left redwick and it was 5 deg c .

freezing up here