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Aaron Community Regular

Aaron

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
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You'll get your snow sooner or later

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Alex95 Contributor

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  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms and heat, North Sea snow
  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Only for cold to return tomorrow, move away Thursday afternoon, and return Thursday night. :lol:

I'm not denying that I'm fairly happy with the current set up, its much better than mild zonal, and I enjoy the crisp mornings at the chance for a bit of radar watching!

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Backtrack

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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
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Yup, doesn't seem to be doing so bad up until now either well for the beginning of December anyway which is all that really counts. :winky:

I pretty much nailed November. Was VERY surprised at that!

I'm not denying that I'm fairly happy with the current set up, its much better than mild zonal, and I enjoy the crisp mornings at the chance for a bit of radar watching!

It's fantastic that we're getting this when just a few weeks ago we had a Euro High and everyone was writing winter off. :)

i want some snow will it be like last year ??

December won't, no.

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  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms and heat, North Sea snow
  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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The front has almost fizzled out, and the temperature has risen to 3°C here :smilz38:

It's fantastic that we're getting this when just a few weeks ago we had a Euro High and everyone was writing winter off. :)

They still are down south!

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itsnowjoke Veteran

itsnowjoke

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  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
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I pretty much nailed November. Was VERY surprised at that!

It's fantastic that we're getting this when just a few weeks ago we had a Euro High and everyone was writing winter off. :)

December won't, no.

what about after that?? i was kinda hopin for a white chrimbo
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jpwild Newbie

jpwild

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  • Location: Near Buxton
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny, warm & partly cloudy.
  • Location: Near Buxton
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Hope we get snow on Thursday. All I had was hail/graupal stuff. Did have snow fluries, but nothing substantial and that's at 700ft. Over the hills near me about a 20 minute walk it's much more thicker from what I am aware of.

Get tomorrow at college out of the way with then bring on Thursday!

Also, any ideas on how Windermere may do?

I want to go to Orrest Head sometime when everywhere's white.

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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
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The front has almost fizzled out, and the temperature has risen to 3°C here :smilz38:

They still are down south!

Who cares, we're North. Oh great North. :D

what about after that?? i was kinda hopin for a white chrimbo

No one knows. Mid January to February will be when Winter is most likely to strike.

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Weather-history

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam
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Slightly but I wouldn't think it'd make a huge amount of difference. A decent wind storm would help somewhat as it will help to mix the water levels and cool the warmer surface.

I think it more depends on how much colder this airmass is. If it more colder than it will be less marginal.

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itsnowjoke

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  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
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Who cares, we're North. Oh great North. :D

No one knows. Mid January to February will be when Winter is most likely to strike.

seems ages off
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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
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seems ages off

Well with the stratosphere as cold as it is, brief topplers are the best we can get in December.

We can't tap into any really cold air and sustain it for long at all unfortunately. The PV simply won't allow it.

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SnowObsessor90 Apprentice

SnowObsessor90

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  • Location: Cheshire
  • Location: Cheshire
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I pretty much nailed November. Was VERY surprised at that!

For the south you did and that indeed is where it was the warmest but pretty much the whole of UK going all the way up to Scotland frequently experienced above average temperatures with the final CET for the month being 9.6 whilst you went for 7.7.

Still that isn't really a part of winter and nobody really saw that coming so I'll let you off on that one. :winky:

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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
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For the south you did and that indeed is where it was the warmest but pretty much the whole of UK going all the way up to Scotland frequently experienced above average temperatures with the final CET for the month being 9.6 whilst you went for 7.7.

Still that isn't really a part of winter and nobody really saw that coming so I'll let you off on that one. :winky:

I got the CET wrong, but the temperature range and weather bang on. I'm very happy with that. :D

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Stratocumulus perlucidus Community Regular

Stratocumulus perlucidus

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  • Location: St helens, warrington, widnes border
  • Weather Preferences: Hot summers, Clod snowy Winters
  • Location: St helens, warrington, widnes border
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Bt what you reckon about the cold uppers due in a few hours, and on thursday onwards and the potentials?

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Lancashire Lass

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  • Location: Preston, Lancashire
  • Weather Preferences: Cold & snowy in winter. Hot and stormy in summer.
  • Location: Preston, Lancashire
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Not sure if i t has already been posted but:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/nw/nw_forecast_warnings.html

And it's my birthday on Thursday too. :yahoo:

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Liam J Experienced

Liam J

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
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Actually a massive upgrade on the 12z for the N parts of N England, the GFS shows the the -9c T850 line making into Cumbria along with the 515 dam line on Friday, so any ppn will be of snow up here and nothing marginal!! :)

Add in gale force winds = blizzards :good:

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Snowstorm1 Apprentice

Snowstorm1

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  • Location: Thornaby-on-Tees
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Showers, Snowy Periods , Blizzards, Cold Weather
  • Location: Thornaby-on-Tees
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Actually a massive upgrade on the 12z for the N parts of N England, the GFS shows the the -9c T850 line making into Cumbria along with the 515 dam line on Friday, so any ppn will be of snow up here and nothing marginal!! :)

Add in gale force winds = blizzards :good:

Yeah NW England Laughing - Ne England Crying!

We desperately need a trough to show up big time or something....

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Liam J Experienced

Liam J

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
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Yeah NW England Laughing - Ne England Crying!

We desperately need a trough to show up big time or something....

The showers will be blown well over land given the strength of the winds currently forecast, are you sheltered by the Pennines?

Troughs in the flow will crop up at short notice, the instability is there.

Will we get a 'Cold and Windy' thread like the Scottish one? :)

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cheshire snow

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  • Location: Northwich south cheshire 35m or 114ft above sea le
  • Weather Preferences: snowy winters,warm summers and Storms
  • Location: Northwich south cheshire 35m or 114ft above sea le
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Cheshire Gap watch for me Thurs night/Friday

C.S

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Snowstorm1 Apprentice

Snowstorm1

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  • Location: Thornaby-on-Tees
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Showers, Snowy Periods , Blizzards, Cold Weather
  • Location: Thornaby-on-Tees
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The showers will be blown well over land given the strength of the winds currently forecast, are you sheltered by the Pennines?

Troughs in the flow will crop up at short notice, the instability is there.

Will we get a 'Cold and Windy' thread like the Scottish one? :)

Well there is a kind of gap in the Pennines which at times can get them showers over here. and we need troughs I reckon for us in the east :)

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Liam J Experienced

Liam J

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
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Gusts of 70-75mph forecast on the Meto site for West Cumbria later tonight and Wednesday morning, and no mention or warnings? :blink:

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wimblettben

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  • Location: Brongest,Wales
  • Weather Preferences: Stormy autumn, hot and sunny summer and thunderstorms all year round.
  • Location: Brongest,Wales
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Gusts of 70-75mph forecast on the Meto site for West Cumbria later tonight and Wednesday morning, and no mention or warnings? :blink:

Seems a bit odd doesn't it?

I would have thought winds up to 70mph would at least warrant a yellow warning.

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Liam J Experienced

Liam J

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
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Seems a bit odd doesn't it?

I would have thought winds up to 70mph would at least warrant a yellow warning.

Very strange, last time they didn't issue warnings trees were uprooted and the roof of a nursery blew right off!! I recorded gusts of 70-75mph that day (17th October)

Westerly winds 40-45mph with gusts 70-75mph actually on the Meto site, and in the written forecast text they say 'windy' :rofl:

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Aaron Community Regular

Aaron

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
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I tend to think, when it will be very severe, the Met will tend to underplay it..

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