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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
3 minutes ago, Mucka said:

It already is :)

Indeed, prolongs the cold to 144 and we'll find out in the next few mins whether 168 is a real stunner....

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  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.
  • Weather Preferences: Four true seasons. Hot summers and cold winters.
  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.

ECM vs UKMO vs GFS at 144h. Quite similiar. But ECM has initial cold air from Euro trough closest to UK. Euros look set to push north more strongly, the GFS remains too far south for the UK but still allows surface cold. Suspect ecm will be nice.

 

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne
1 minute ago, CreweCold said:

Indeed, prolongs the cold to 144 and we'll find out in the next few mins whether 168 is a real stunner....

The ecm has a little wave running south to be over Cornwall 06 Monday. :shok:

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
Just now, knocker said:

The ecm has a little wave running south to be over Cornwall 06 Monday. :shok:

Are you going to be snowed in Knocker :p

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and warm in the Summer, cold and snowy in the winter, simples!
  • Location: Manchester

ECH1-168.GIF?10-12

It is a thing of beauty but could of been even better if those two Atlantic lows had phased already. That would slow the pattern and prevent energy running over the top, could even reamplify and undercut in a perfect world but I will settle for this I suppose. :whistling:

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.

Very nice ECM 168 this morning, With a slack Easterly off the continent. 192 even better..

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

I wonder what the eps will say, its unusual for the op not to have overall majority backing as we are talking short lead times for the setup now.

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  • Location: Bournemouth
  • Weather Preferences: Dry mild or snow winter. Hot and humid summer.
  • Location: Bournemouth

Your a greedy fella mucka!!ECM has been very consistent. Let's hope it's right!! 

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.

-11 uppers to the S/E with most of the UK cold not just the South as per last run..

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and warm in the Summer, cold and snowy in the winter, simples!
  • Location: Manchester
5 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

192-

Snow possibly pushing slowly W across England...bitterly cold

ECH1-192.GIF?10-12

ECH0-192.GIF?10-12

Fantastic but imagine that low to our NW being where the low to the SW is. If they phased that low isn't there and instead we have a nicely shaped Atlantic trough ready to renew WAA NE.

Something to watch for if the other models get on board out to 144 but I think peeps will be rightly more wrapped up in the cold we have got for now. Plenty to look forward to.

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.

A wonderful chart indeed, Very cold surface temps.

 

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
1 minute ago, Polar Maritime said:

A wonderful chart indeed, Very cold surface temps.

 

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Cold uppers, light winds, continental drift, snow on the ground?....-15 easily possible in places

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  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.
  • Weather Preferences: Four true seasons. Hot summers and cold winters.
  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.

Cold run if you're planning a ski trip to the Alps next week.

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and warm in the Summer, cold and snowy in the winter, simples!
  • Location: Manchester
7 minutes ago, That ECM said:

Your a greedy fella mucka!!ECM has been very consistent. Let's hope it's right!! 

Definitely. It has been such a long wait for cold we may as well go the whole hog. :D

It is actually reasonable analysis though because if the ECM is right then we could be on the brink of being locked into a cold pattern of a couple of weeks if we get a favourable upstream pattern from 144..

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  • Location: Lytchett Matravers - 301 ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy Winters, Torrential Storm Summers
  • Location: Lytchett Matravers - 301 ft ASL

Amazing stuff! What a brilliant overnight set of models. Oh and @Mucka that's what I meant by could be :spiteful:

so today bucks the trend of previous mornings outputs being downgrades to the previous days 12z. 

Can't wait to see the ENS later on.

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  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.
  • Weather Preferences: Four true seasons. Hot summers and cold winters.
  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.

ECM massage has happy ending. Cold Cold Cold.

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