Moans, ramps and banter

[WYorksWeather]

 HurricaneSteve To be fair, I'm one of them sometimes!

It depends what you're doing - I find I don't feel much cold on my legs so if I'm only outside for short periods or very active (e.g. running), it's fine.

But going for a walk or sitting out in cold weather, no.

[East Lancs Rain]

On 18/02/2024 at 02:26, Don said:

Indeed, you would have thought 2023 was a cool year going by many comments.  In reality it was the joint warmest on record!

Maybe so, but it had a disappointing Spring, a rubbish July and a wet autumn and December. March, July and December were all exceptionally wet. Does anyone know what the rainfall stats were for 2023? I would’ve guessed one of if not the wettest years on record. Felt like it anyway…

 

It has been exceptionally wet and very dull since July with only brief breaks and now it looks like the dull and wet conditions will go on into March!

 

 

[WYorksWeather]

 East Lancs Rain Tonight's GFS 12z is a little more optimistic for early March, but I know much better than to put my trust in any one deterministic run. I do hope it's a trendsetter though.

Absolutely gorgeous chart for early spring, and we remain with high pressure in control for a solid few days. Maybe even signs if you take the T+384 chart literally that for once one of those Atlantic lows gets forced out of the way by the high and we get to stay dry beyond that.

It has virtually no ensemble support, but what an improvement it would be if it did come off. Some warmth, cool clear nights, light winds, probably a decent amount of sunshine...

We can dream. But I'm not expecting this to verify at the moment. Nice to look at though.

[baddie]

 East Lancs Rain My concerns are how much rainfall we will get. Areas will be in big trouble by late-February and a washout for a March is not only unwelcome but is torture for SAD sufferers and vegetation. I would even go as far as welcoming a March 2013 repeat at this stage, but Im thinking we will have a 2020-style March (But with no lockdowns)

Edited February 19 by baddie

[baddie]

 WYorksWeather The best way to start March is with Northerlies or Easterlies, then a lengthy period of fine, dry and warm weather from the equinox onwards

[East Lancs Rain]

3 hours ago, Alderc 2.0 said:

Proper awful from tomorrow with it turning wetter and colder, nothing worse than cold rain and showers! Roll on spring!

I agree with it turning colder, but wetter? It has already been very wet here… Mind you, you are in the far south closer to the high pressure.

13 hours ago, Summer8906 said:

Looking at how the mildness of this month has disrupted nature, what we arguably need is a a good cold and dry spell!

A March with mean min around freezing and mean max in the high single digits would be just right, along with 150% of the normal sunshine and 20% of the normal rainfall.

I wouldn’t mind that and it would be a nice change to the very mild, but also very wet and very dull weather we’ve been having since late September, however, Marches that are cold but also dry and sunny are very rare. April 2021 was like that but it was very rare. Usually cold Marches will also be wet and dull, and dry and sunny Marches will also be mild/warm.

[Metwatch]

This is not normal anymore

[raz.org.rain]

 baddie suggestions of something warmer going into March at least.

[baddie]

 raz.org.rain Hoping it would at least be dry
 

[lassie23]

i'm having the first BBQ of the summer on the first of March, it better be 30c and sunny. Come on global worming do your thing.

[raz.org.rain]

 baddie hope so too, we deserve a warm and dry March.

[WYorksWeather]

Accidentally posted my model post here - suffice it to say that 12z ECM is milder to end February and a record break is all but guaranteed if the mean verifies.

Edited February 19 by WYorksWeather
Wrong thread!

[East Lancs Rain]

This YouTube channel must be loving all this wet weather… All of their videos are of walks through London, usually in rainy weather… The way they describe it.. I’ve never heard anyone describe rainy weather quite like this before…

 

 

Anyone would think rainy weather was the best weather imaginable! Quite relaxing to watch but I’m sure @In Absence of True Seasonscan testify, walking through the streets of London in the pouring rain ain’t no fun… ️

 

Reading the comments was quite funny too!

 

 

One thing I’ve noticed is that loads of people carry umbrellas in London, whereas up here, it’s rare to see anyone carrying an umbrella, even in torrential rain. People wear raincoats, just not umbrellas. Must be a northern thing I guess.

Edited February 20 by East Lancs Rain

[East Lancs Rain]

So… We are going from warm rain on Tuesday and Wednesday to cold rain on Friday and after that. Brilliant.. Just brilliant…

[Summer18]

It’s been a complete stinker of a winter, very mild and wet, literally the worst of both worlds. This February has properly topped it off, awful from start to finish. 

I’d say roll on spring but no doubt the perfect winter charts will crop up in April and May. 

[JoeShmoe]

Really not sure why some are still hankering for watered down cold this time of year, let’s get some spring sunshine and warmth and get in the beer garden !

[SussexSnowman]

One of the biggest raspberries of a winter I can remember. Aside from the 2 week dry spell in January, it's just been dismal. Missing out on that snow event where it tracked further south across the channel and into Belgium was a gut puncher. This winter has been backloaded alright. Backloaded with a ton of crap mild and wet weather. Don't think I'll be getting excited anytime soon in an El Nino winter. Just feels like it's be one long rotten autumn.  A blue sky wouldn't be too much to ask for. 

I know it's not linked, but when the announcement came out about the UK going into a recession after our noble PM only a day earlier stated that the economy is on the road to recovery almost makes me draw parallels with something nice on the horizon weather wise not to materialise a day or 2 later. 

It wouldn't be an understatement to say it sucks being in Britain right now. 

[baddie]

 Summer18 I have quite mixed feelings on this month. I enjoyed the spring-like feel though it has been a very dull month (A bit like Feb 2017). I would give it a 3/10 

[TwisterGirl81]

 East Lancs Rain here are the 2023 met office stats stats for the uk 

[SunnyG]

 East Lancs Rain We've gone from loads of rain to a lot less rain...

[In Absence of True Seasons]

 TwisterGirl81 The main reason why most of the UK had average or around average for sunshine hours is because of huge amounts of sun condensed to specific parts of the year (Feb, June Sept and early Oct). Those specific spells bumped the stats up massively, because the rest of the year was incredibly dull (and whenever it wasn't sunny it was usually raining lol), so it definitely wasn't an "average" sunshine year from a consistency or experiential perspective. It's a bit like if we had an "average" rainfall year but it only rained at several times throughout the year in specific, condensed, heavy bursts, and was dry outside of that. It'd feel like a very dry year despite average rainfall mm.

[In Absence of True Seasons]

 Summer18 it's so strange how even as recently as when I was at university (about 10/11 years ago), Jan and Feb were so different. I can remember wearing multiple layers in my student flat in winter 2012/13. Very low single digits and 0c minimums were standard, and this was in South England still! I remember Jan and Feb at university being snowy too, because I had a flatmate from Colombia who had never seen snow and she was going mental about it.

Edited February 20 by In Absence of True Seasons

[In Absence of True Seasons]

 East Lancs Rain Loool, I think I've sent that channel. 

If you're just visiting London for a day trip and mincing around the West End like this guy, sure, the rain can be 'romantic'. Not so romantic when it's every single morning at 7/8am on your commute and you inevitably get wet regardless of clothing, you're squeezed up against other wet people on the tube, every floor is slippery, then you have to sit at work or in a meeting with wet suit trousers etc. 

Alot of the people who watch and comment on these videos aren't from the UK either. They'll be from, say, warm and dry American states such as Texas or Arizona, or South America, where they're sick and tired of the sun and imagine grey, dark and rainy weather to be "cosy" and "cute". I'm no fan of year-round warmth like AZ / TX gets, but try living a year in England and then come back to me about how whimsical and romantic it is to be rained on near-daily lol. I can guarantee that the novelty would wear of very quickly in fact. 

Definitely a bit of a "fashion" thing re umbrellas. Most work commuters wear formal or semi-formal clothing and rainmacs just don't tend to fit those outfits. The wind is also a big factor, as it renders umbrellas useless. I imagine Cumbria can get very windy when it's raining. London is varied in that regard - the video shows West End and Soho etc where the streets block the wind, but where I work in the city (zone 1), the skyscrapers create proper wind tunnels and you get absolutely blasted. So I've given up using umbrellas and started wearing my Rab waterproof hiking jacket instead, especially because 2023 so often saw wind accompanying the rain, and I had 3 umbrellas break due it.  

[Polaris]

You know this winter is bad when Stav on Latest beeb forecast refers to 10c in London and 8c in Edinburgh as 'COLD'. Other countries must laugh at us

[Froze were the Days]

 Polaris Snowflake presenters? BBC forecasters should bow their heads in embarrassment at the their lack of knowing what max temperatures should be for the time of year country wide as an approximate, a week or so back they were saying that 9c was the average at the time...hhmmmm no.

As for the continued bore-fest of Winter 2023/24 is anybody else just wishing Spring (real Spring not faux) would get a giddy-up?

Edited February 20 by Froze were the Days