damianslaw

October 20th 2010 delivered 20 degrees in Calgary, I was there.. 2010.. mentioned again!

November often produces very small diurnal ranges, 6 to 11 degree mark, most limited of all months I'd say. Generally the most uninspiring of months, but December can be truly depressing when dull and mild. Oh joy we have that to look forward to!

Big temp contrasts north to south.

I take all long range forecasts with pinch of salt, indeed don't look at them.

Quite unusual synoptics for mid October, low pressure anchored and split off to our SW, atmosphere perhaps not behaving as expected... the amount of cut off low pressure to our SW this year has been notable.

Must renember these are averaged out mean temps and don't necessarily equate to no cold occuring. You could have a 10 day cold spell cancelled out by a 20 day very mild spell..

Any first frosts last night? Please keep this thread alive.

A very non descript day, quite fine overall, calm and dry. Tomorrow set wet.

2011 saw an upsurge in sunspot activity then a dip in 2012-13 may have been reason for the rather cold April 2012 to March 2013 period.

2020-21 keeps cropping up. 99/2000 and 13/14 were very different to the other 3 winters. A very mixed bag of winters.

Could be a few first ground and air frosts central southern England overnight.

Chilly 5 degrees this morning, misty in the valleys, feels Octoberish!

Always thought snowfall over Scandi is a barometer as well..

A very wet evening, expecting October to be our first notably wet month since February. Rarely is it a dry month in the Lake District.

Not much to say about today's weather, other than about to go downhill here, with rain knocking on our door.

Models continue with the theme they've shown for quite sometime now, a change from a mild flow between south and west to a coldee flow from north to west as we see amplification of the jet, end result, azores high kicked west, and a colder northerly sourced airflow next weekend, which is just within the reliable. All looking chilly and cyclonic, blow away cobwebs weather.

Quite a pronounced ridge of heights to the west, looks cold and cyclonic for the UK, with the wrap around heights to the north, interesting set up against the usual zonal grain we see in October.

Is that against the running mean? Yes I think the north is running much close to average than much of CET zone.

Type of accommodation you reside in makes big difference to indoor temp. Older properties especially large detached ones really do lose heat very quick, compared to a modern top floor flat.. Ive given in this evening, its an old big house, its west north facing big bay window and very open to the west in aspect.

NW BBC weather report currently reporting from Haslingden, saying very cold and acting like its freezing! Over the top!

May October do a September.. another very mild start to the month, shoukd see a gradual downturn days ahead. Like Sept, October is a rapidly cooling month even more so and a chilly last 10 days can make a big dint in the CET.

If it ran further it would see the high kicked NW and a cold northerly. The trigger that runner low to the north of Iceland, trajectory SW into the main trough. All conjecture.

Chilly evening, has that deeper Autumn vibe to it, next 2 weeks sees that transition to deep Autumn.

Not wanting to sound political, but I woukdn't be surprised if part of reason government stepped in with cap on energy prices partly influenved by tip off of early forecasts for the winter, after all they see more information than we do. These early warnings of cold winter at least intially feed into current narratives about reducing energy use. Listening to some reporting there appears to be a view that we can cope with a cold start, but not a cold winter Jan onwards.. Couple of weeks time and the Lake District will pull on its full autumnal cloak, resplendent in brown, gold, yellow, orange, ochre, crimson and red.

BBC NW forecast just now misleading showing 15 degree here at 5pm, yet it is below 13 degrees now and only set to drop.