Summer 2022 Chat

[Summer8906]

Been out of the country all month so trying to get a picture of it, aside from the two day silly heatwave.

Does very dry, but slightly on the cloudy side, sum it up for the south of England - and very cloudy in the north? Very westerly but with high pressure, perhaps not unlike July 2016?

Also there seem to have been very few really cool days (below 20C) in the south, is that about right?

Edited July 28, 2022 by Summer8906

[danm]

16 minutes ago, Summer8906 said:

Been out of the country all month so trying to get a picture of it, aside from the two day silly heatwave.

Does very dry, but slightly on the cloudy side, sum it up for the south of England - and very cloudy in the north? Very westerly but with high pressure, perhaps not unlike July 2016?

Also there seem to have been very few really cool days (below 20C) in the south, is that about right?

We’ve had a lot of sunny weather in the south and south east, but it does look like it’s been cloudier this week. I’m abroad currently. 

[mb018538]

1 hour ago, Summer8906 said:

Been out of the country all month so trying to get a picture of it, aside from the two day silly heatwave.

Does very dry, but slightly on the cloudy side, sum it up for the south of England - and very cloudy in the north? Very westerly but with high pressure, perhaps not unlike July 2016?

Also there seem to have been very few really cool days (below 20C) in the south, is that about right?

It's been very sunny in the south.....apart from this week, where we have reverted back to the cloudfest!

CET is currently running 2.2c above average....so another very warm month in a crazy warm year. The fact that the coldest 2 CET months of this year (January and June) were both +0.8c above average says it all!

[legion_quest]

Quite enjoying the cloud to be honest. Gives a respite from the intense heat the sun is kicking out. 

It isnt warm, it's genuinely hotter feeling this year to me this year. Maybe it's psychosomatic, but the sun feels warmer than it ever used to. 

[Summer8906]

6 hours ago, mb018538 said:

It's been very sunny in the south.....apart from this week, where we have reverted back to the cloudfest!

CET is currently running 2.2c above average....so another very warm month in a crazy warm year. The fact that the coldest 2 CET months of this year (January and June) were both +0.8c above average says it all!

Ah ok, so presumably another exception to the cloudy Julys that have prevailed since 2007 (with 2013, 2014 and 2018 the only previous exceptions in this time period, I believe).

Out of the country (Greece) at the moment and while it's nice to see some summer weather, I'd actually welcome a few cloudier, cooler days! Day temps are not extreme but the nights have turned very warm this past week, despite clear skies. It's also decidedly humid this week, when the second half of June and first of July often had very dry air. Often 28C at around 2200 which would presumably translate to low-twenties minima... and this is a rural town at around 300-400m altitude. The minimum for Thessaloniki Airport, at sea level is just 19c, so I'd guess the normal minimum here for July is around 17C, so nights do seem to be well above average at the moment.

On the other hand I have experienced one day of continuous moderate rain most of the day this month (on Sat 9th), believe it or not, which, looking at the rainfall figures, the far south of England has probably missed this month thus far! Ironically, and incredibly, I think that was the wettest Saturday I have experienced anywhere since the start of April - we were very lucky indeed back home to have a long sequence of fine Saturdays in April and May.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Summer8906

[dryfie]

Scottish extreme temperature temperature of 35.1 deg at Floors Castle has been deemed 'non-compliant', but confirmed as 34.8 deg at Charterhall.  TV pictures at the time seemed to show a large amount of white man-made material (horticultural fleece?) in the vicinity.  

 

Scotland's record temperature of 34.8C at Charterhall confirmed

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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A provisional high of 35.1C was not verified as the site did not comply with Met Office standards.

 

[richie3846]

8 minutes ago, dryfie said:

Scottish extreme temperature temperature of 35.1 deg at Floors Castle has been deemed 'non-compliant', but confirmed as 34.8 deg at Charterhall.  TV pictures at the time seemed to show a large amount of white man-made material (horticultural fleece?) in the vicinity.  

 

Scotland's record temperature of 34.8C at Charterhall confirmed

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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A provisional high of 35.1C was not verified as the site did not comply with Met Office standards.

 

That's the second Scottish high to be thrown out. A few years back a record was discounted because of a rogue ice cream van nearby, or so the story goes. Could be Chinese whispers that one!

[dryfie]

1 hour ago, richie3846 said:

That's the second Scottish high to be thrown out. A few years back a record was discounted because of a rogue ice cream van nearby, or so the story goes. Could be Chinese whispers that one!

Yes.  Full credit to Scotland for their diligence in both this and previous extremes checking.  It does make you wonder if England and Scotland have different rules when it comes to interference from engine exhaust and from man-made materials.  I wonder how many of the English records last week would have been considered non-compliant if in Scotland.

[B87]

9 hours ago, Summer8906 said:

Been out of the country all month so trying to get a picture of it, aside from the two day silly heatwave.

Does very dry, but slightly on the cloudy side, sum it up for the south of England - and very cloudy in the north? Very westerly but with high pressure, perhaps not unlike July 2016?

Also there seem to have been very few really cool days (below 20C) in the south, is that about right?

Every month so far this year has been sunnier than average here, with the exception of May which was very cloudy.

June here was around 240 hours, with July 230ish so far. If August is sunnier than average (haha), then it'll be the first time since 2003 that all 3 summer months will have seen sunnier than normal conditions.

Edited July 28, 2022 by B87

[SummerShower]

9 hours ago, Summer8906 said:

Been out of the country all month so trying to get a picture of it, aside from the two day silly heatwave.

Does very dry, but slightly on the cloudy side, sum it up for the south of England - and very cloudy in the north? Very westerly but with high pressure, perhaps not unlike July 2016?

Also there seem to have been very few really cool days (below 20C) in the south, is that about right?

In the Hampshire area.. easily the best July since 2018, and even dryer than that too.  Looks like being entirely free of measurable rain for the whole month here.  First 4 days were cool and cloudy but since then the south has been warm/hot and mostly sunny with only a couple of cooler cloudy days thrown in.  I think more northern areas had a better July last year though. 

Funnily enough this area didn't have the most extreme temperatures last week (although 35-36 is nothing to be sniffed at.. we dodged the 40 degree bullet, that was reserved for areas further N/E as there was a slight SW element to the flow.

[Weather26]

Seems There's been an adjustment to Scotland's highest temperature record during the most recent heatwave.

 

[damianslaw]

Despite some reports ranking this as the best summer so far... Well it simply isn't.. not anywhere near on a par with 2018... despite the record heat. 

[East Lancs Rain]

14 hours ago, Summer8906 said:

Been out of the country all month so trying to get a picture of it, aside from the two day silly heatwave.

Does very dry, but slightly on the cloudy side, sum it up for the south of England - and very cloudy in the north? Very westerly but with high pressure, perhaps not unlike July 2016?

Also there seem to have been very few really cool days (below 20C) in the south, is that about right?

Pretty much. Been a very cloudy July here, Especially in the last week we just had virtually zero sunshine. A lot of westerly winds which isn’t a great direction for here.

 

A fairly dry month, but what’s the point when it’s cloudy nearly every day?

 

It’s been a very dreary forgettable summer here apart from the crazy heat for a couple of days.

What happened to the sunshine and showers? Just seems to be cloudy with showers now.

 

Edited July 28, 2022 by East Lancs Rain

[Evening thunder]

13 hours ago, dryfie said:

Yes.  Full credit to Scotland for their diligence in both this and previous extremes checking.  It does make you wonder if England and Scotland have different rules when it comes to interference from engine exhaust and from man-made materials.  I wonder how many of the English records last week would have been considered non-compliant if in Scotland.

They're all Met Office sites and checked by the Met Office against the same standards after potential new records

[FetchCB]

Climate change: Will naming heatwaves save lives? - BBC News

 

Seems to be a sensible way forward, although by definition you would also want to do the same for cold weather

[Methuselah]

17 minutes ago, FetchCB said:

Climate change: Will naming heatwaves save lives? - BBC News

 

Seems to be a sensible way forward, although by definition you would also want to do the same for cold weather

Cue a load of 'hot air' over whether or not this or that hot spell should have been named. Do these folks think we each have an IQ similar to that of the average seven-year-old!

Edited July 29, 2022 by Ed Stone

[MP-R]

1 minute ago, Ed Stone said:

Cue a load of 'hot air' over whether or not this or that hot spell should have been named. Do these folks think we have an IQ similar to that of the average seven-year-old!

If everything over the last few years is anything to go by… yes!

[legion_quest]

12 hours ago, damianslaw said:

Despite some reports ranking this as the best summer so far... Well it simply isn't.. not anywhere near on a par with 2018... despite the record heat. 

"Best summer" is such an objective term. 

While the press still report on hot and sunny weather and prolonged periods of it as a super positive thing that involves beach days and fun, no one will ever take the changes to climate seriously. "It's just a few nice days, get over it" says Margaret, standing in the 7 extra inches of water that was once the front room of her sea side town house. 

[NevermoreIQuoth]

55 minutes ago, FetchCB said:

Climate change: Will naming heatwaves save lives? - BBC News

 

Seems to be a sensible way forward, although by definition you would also want to do the same for cold weather

For me personally I think it’s a bit silly and pointless but that might be because i follow upcoming heatwaves with interest. 
 

It might work better for older or vulnerable people who might take more notice but i still don’t think it would have the same impact with the general public as naming wind storms due to people enjoying hot weather more. 

[danm]

UK heatwave: Weather forecasters report unprecedented trolling

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Meteorologists from the BBC and elsewhere faced abuse as they reported on the UK's record heat.

 

[*Stormforce~beka*]

That's it! We're now under a hose pipe ban!

[davehsug]

What the hell's wrong with people?

UK heatwave: Weather forecasters report unprecedented trolling

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Meteorologists from the BBC and elsewhere faced abuse as they reported on the UK's record heat.

 

[Seasonal Trim]

2 minutes ago, davehsug said:

What the hell's wrong with people?

UK heatwave: Weather forecasters report unprecedented trolling

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Meteorologists from the BBC and elsewhere faced abuse as they reported on the UK's record heat.

 

Not surprising, even some on here were questioning the Met Offices motives.

[danm]

Hosepipe ban imposed on Hampshire and Isle of Wight after heatwave

NEWS.SKY.COM

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Southern water says there is no risk to water supply but the hosepipe ban is needed to protect the environment during "one of the driest years on record for over a century" and...

 

[stainesbloke]

29 minutes ago, davehsug said:

What the hell's wrong with people?

UK heatwave: Weather forecasters report unprecedented trolling

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Meteorologists from the BBC and elsewhere faced abuse as they reported on the UK's record heat.

 

It’s a sad indictment of modern Britain, apparently IQ levels are dropping and facts are treated with disdain. 
A lovely summer's day in west London, 25°C and sunny, though can see lots of drought stress around in trees and shrubs.