Moans, ramps and banter

[CryoraptorA303]

 B87 Yes, again the dullness is the notable part about this April, not the temps.

[danm]

7 minutes ago, B87 said:

The forecast has plenty of days below 15c, which will help to drop that average though.

Maybe, but you did say that it's only been warm because of the mean so far this month, but we've actually run a little above average for max temps over the first 23 days of the month. Yes, that will likely drop a little as we get to the end of the month, so maybe finishing marginally below average. 

[midlandsun]

Yet another dull drizzly cloudy day here, and that wind....fooking bugger off!!! This country is a complete miserable hellhole.

[raz.org.rain]

Something funny going on with global SSTs. I'm not expecting a drastic crash to La Niña personally, some have gone as far as to suggest that there'll be no overall cooling post El Niño, which would be the first time that has happened.
 

 

[richie3846]

 Bristawl Si  Bristawl Si Looking good! I've been following your work for a few days now, and how you've been working around the weather!

[TwisterGirl81]

 CryoraptorA303 the dullness has been notable every month since I don’t know when  

Edited April 24 by TwisterGirl81

[*Stormforce~beka*]

 midlandsun We.need a hot long summer to get over the last 13 months and recharge for next Autumn, Autumn and Autumn before the next Summer!

[MP-R]

 TwisterGirl81 Since last June!

[*Stormforce~beka*]

 TwisterGirl81 March 2023 ...

 MP-R March 2023

[baddie]

 MP-R March 2022. That Easterly spell brought sunny days (More hazy then deep blue), and stunning sunsets between the 22nd and 26th. Maybe the air quality and sunset depends on how warm it is (March 19th 2022 didnt even bring a slight wisp of cirrus, but the sunset was somewhat boring)

 

I just noticed that sunny Easterly (SE, E and NE) days look a lot different compared to sunny Westerlies

Edited April 24 by baddie

[MP-R]

 *Stormforce~beka* A very dull month, but more a dress rehearsal for July onwards… both May and June had over 250 hours here.

[*Stormforce~beka*]

 MP-R It started then here! I didn't see sun again except for 1 week or so in June and then nothing til September!

[Daniel*]

35 minutes ago, raz.org.rain said:

have gone as far as to suggest that there'll be no overall cooling post El Niño, which would be the first time that has happened.

These people should be ignored.

[Alderc 2.0]

 danm  looking at output I think mean maxes in the south will be dragged down quite a bit. GFS doesn’t have temps getting much 10-12C for the next and only 12-15C Monday and Tuesday. Then apart from the 1st nothing above 15C until the 9th which would be incredibly poor. 

[midlandsun]

 *Stormforce~beka* really struggling to see that happening. We're nearly into May and we're barely scraping double figures in temps.

[raz.org.rain]

 midlandsun similar situation to 2018 and 2022 really 

[danm]

20 minutes ago, Alderc 2.0 said:

looking at output I think mean maxes in the south will be dragged down quite a bit. GFS doesn’t have temps getting much 10-12C for the next and only 12-15C Monday and Tuesday. Then apart from the 1st nothing above 15C until the 9th which would be incredibly poor. 

Yep that' possible. I was more referring to the month so far, which to date has run a little above average. 

[Bristawl Si]

 richie3846 yep. Which is highly unusual for me. I abs hate DIY, with a passion.

Despite retiring (early) over 7 years ago i've done v little, myself, in terms of jobs inside and outside our gaff. But i got it in my head back end of Winter that during Spring i'm going to do a few things. 2 jobs left outside, regrouting patio and painting the fence. 

Off to Fuerteventura in 2 weeks time,  for 10 days, so whether i finish planned jobs before then ....hmm, we'll see

[Azazel]

With the outlook looking as awful as it does, is there at least any sign of any convective activity in the models? 

[TwisterGirl81]

I’m actually going to work out the monthly percentage of sun we’ve received In Exeter monthly since the start of last year because I feel like I’m going nuts and imagining just how bad it’s been or have unrealistic expectations of weather here, brb! I’d be interested if others did it for their locations too so we can at least take some comfort that the prolonged dullness is not just in our imaginations and hope for the day when the tide changes to at least something average/fairer because I feel like we have well and truly been dealt the sh*tty end of the stick since last year.

Edited April 24 by TwisterGirl81

[Daniel*]

On course to be dullest April in 26 years (1998) in London. The east has definitely faired much worse than west. Miserable, nondescript month really. 

[SunSean]

Imagine being someone who is overjoyed by grey & wet! Would it be something like this?

Dean Gray, the drizzle lover-

"This has been the BEST 14 months I have ever lived through on this planet!!!! This stunning spell that started in March 2023 with those utterly stunning grey slate skies & that tantalising rain hammering against my skin for days on end has left me in somewhat of a euphoric daze. We had a disgusting blip late May & June 2023 with that absolutely vile sunshine & worryingly dry conditions that could have brought forward extinction of the human race but I decided to take matters into my own hands. I drew a pentagram, got some candles, 100 dead Spring rabbits & a photo of the sun with a knife stomped through it on a dead tree trunk. I performed this sacrifice to Beelzebub & in return I begged him for the UK weather to be like March 2023 forever!!!"

"My wish was granted. One of the greatest months in UK Summer history occurred with the utterly perfect July 2023 & August, despite a few annoying blips of filthy sun mid month, kept a mainly dull theme. The 1st half of September was absolutely unacceptable though & I thundered back over to Beelzebub in a hurricane of rage & demanded a return to the weather I WANT. ITS ALL ABOUT ME I screamed in his face. He told me I need to up my sacrifice & so Immediately I unclenched my fists & rushed off to gather the items for my next sacrifice. Upon digging up my expired grandparents & placing them onto the tree trunk surrounded once again by the pentagram & candles, topped with the sun photo, this time with FIVE knives through it, I anticipated my desire to come true."

"The weather changed almost immediately after mid month & then I spat out my caramel latte when a few days of 25c & sun appeared in early October....REALLY!!!!!! I charged back over to Beelzebub but he stopped me in panic & exclaimed that the man over there was upset at the poor weather & also started a sacrifice to him & of course I ahem...ended his journey on earth there & then. Ever since, I've had it all my way hahahahaha. Grey, wet, grey, wet, grey, wet, it's all because of me! 2023 was meant to be the start of a Mediterranean climate in the UK but I alone managed to change it to a slightly warmer version of the Faroe Islands!!!"

"Nowadays I just dance in the streets in my red lingerie in a blur of complete euphoric bliss just knowing, this is our climate forever now! If anyone even dares go to Beelzebub with a sacrifice to change things, there will be dire, DIRE consequences. You have been warned. I love my life!"

Yes I was bored & yes I am weird 

[raz.org.rain]

 SunSean worst part is that some are dead set on having this theme continue through summer too.

[sunny_vale]

Been in Cornwall since Monday and have to say while not particularly warm or walk to wall sunshine I have managed to get some colour on my skin. It’s felt pleasant enough and quite spring like so I definitely caught the right week to come. All down hill tomorrow though . . . 
As for the outlook - depressing. Utterly depressing. I’ve been broken. I thought that couple of warm days at the weekend might save me and it’s not been as dull as before but here we go again!!

[danm]

To highlight Spring sometimes resulting in better weather in the west compared to the east (often due to the increased likelihood of northern blocking at this time of year, and easterly winds that favour the west more than the east), I checked the average sunshine totals for April versus July. 

In April, many western areas average a very similar amount of sunshine to the south and east:

 

By mid Summer, the south and east averages significantly more sunshine than the north and west:

 

You can also see this for Spring as a whole compared to Summer as a whole:

 

This is largely down to high pressure being far more frequently centred to the north/NW or west of the UK during Spring than at any other time of year, which will always favours sheltered western and NW'ern areas. 

Add in a late season SSW that increases the chances of northern blocking even more, and this pattern probably becomes even more accentuated.

Edited April 24 by danm