North East England Cold Spell Dicussion

[Rollo]

Just had our first shower of the day , it did not last long but I am sure it is the first of many,the temperature immediately rose from -2c to 0.5c.

[tynevalleywinter]

Missed Look North weather, what was the crack?

Mark

Look north said heavy and prolonged snow showers starting around 1500 today and right through to 1600 Wednesday stretching right down the coast and about 30 miles inland.

[izi]

Some excellent lapse rates and decent CAPE for the North East especially Northumberland, if that band of cloud (stalling weather front) stretching from the Humber over through Wales was a little further southwest then the chances of thundersnow south of the tyne would be better as i think the upper sheet of cloud is chopping away at those beasts coming in off the sea.

Sorry for noob question, but what are lapse rates?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10?area=NE1

look north forecast over to the right click play. Hasn't been updated since this morning but still shows snow.

[Tucco]

Look north said heavy and prolonged snow showers starting around 1500 today and right through to 1600 Wednesday stretching right down the coast and about 30 miles inland.

Thanks, nice condtions here just lacks snowfall. Sorry to bother you, but did the shrs make it over to Cumbria?

Mark

[NL]

Sorry for noob question, but what are lapse rates?

Temperature gradiant from 850hpa to 500 hpa the greater the temp difference the better for cumulus to grow into cumulonimbus (thunderclouds)

Edited January 5, 2010 by NL

[Osbourne One-Nil]

I've had to escape from the NW thread as I don't really have a lot of interest in what happens in Runcorn.

Down to -3.0º here right now and the Met Office precipitation predictions suggest some snowfall reaching over the Pennines this evening and through the night, but we shall see.

Interestingly, it has stayed below zero here since 8.30pm on Saturday.

[tynevalleywinter]

Thanks, nice condtions here just lacks snowfall. Sorry to bother you, but did the shrs make it over to Cumbria?

Mark

Possibly 1 or 2 but nothing very heavy to reach cumbria she said

my guess it will be on a knifes edge anywhere more than 10 miles from the east coast

Edited January 5, 2010 by tynevalleywinter

[izi]

Possibly 1 or 2 but nothing very heavy to reach cumbria she said

my guess it will be on a knifes edge anywhere more than 10 miles from the east coast

that means only reaching Newcastle? I'd have though they will penetrate at least 30 miles?

[Tucco]

I've had to escape from the NW thread as I don't really have a lot of interest in what happens in Runcorn.

Down to -3.0º here right now and the Met Office precipitation predictions suggest some snowfall reaching over the Pennines this evening and through the night, but we shall see.

Interestingly, it has stayed below zero here since 8.30pm on Saturday.

Hope so OON. Your warmer than here. -2.9ºC but there's a fresh NE wind gusting 25mph plus.

Mark

[topsweep1506]

Big anvil about to come onto the coast between Whitley bay/Tynemouth now

[izi]

There seems to be a bit more organised snow out to sea.

edit: topsweep1506 is this your anvil shaped stuf ha

Edited January 5, 2010 by izi

[NL]

Massive i mean massive graupel unbelievable..never seen anything as large as those, was just about to leave for college, best wait, those beggers will hurt..!!

[tynevalleywinter]

that means only reaching Newcastle? I'd have though they will penetrate at least 30 miles?

I hope so. 25 miles from coast here and it would be good if we could all share a big dumping to get the south off the headlines!

[topsweep1506]

Heavy snow here in Crammy now hope it stops ive got to pick the kids up from school in 15 mins

[Tucco]

I hope so. 25 miles from coast here and it would be good if we could all share a big dumping to get the south off the headlines!

That's not going to happen. Even if there was a repeat of the Jan 1941 NE snowstorm which dumped 122cm on Consett, the South would still lead.

Mark

Edited January 5, 2010 by Tucco

[Cloud 10]

Interestingly, it has stayed below zero here since 8.30pm on Saturday.

Ice days hardly raise an eyebrow at the moment.

An ice week,now that would be something.

[tynevalleywinter]

That's not going to happen. Even if there was a repeat of the Jan 1941 NE snowstorm which dumped 122cm on Consett, the South would still lead.

Mark

I was in Basingstoke that night before xmas when the "Snowstorm of the decade" hit. It was terrible. So much snow! 3 inches you should of seen it!

4 inches of snow in the south= 4 foot of snow in the north !

[NL]

I've had to escape from the NW thread as I don't really have a lot of interest in what happens in Runcorn.

Down to -3.0º here right now and the Met Office precipitation predictions suggest some snowfall reaching over the Pennines this evening and through the night, but we shall see.

Interestingly, it has stayed below zero here since 8.30pm on Saturday.

[/quote

Us Northeasterners far better than the scous'as, eh? Oon.. haha.. Me mam thought so, shes cumbrian from Whitehaven and married me dad born and bred Geordie, so that makes me a ?????.. anyway got to go, trudge through the bleak tundra.....

[Tucco]

Ice days hardly raise an eyebrow at the moment.

An ice week,now that would be something.

Been below freezing since last Thursday here, just missed out on a ice week last year by a few hours.

Mark

[0000]

Moderate snow falling here,big flakes...hmmm re snow making the headlines,I've seen 6' snow lying here and the BBC headlines being London at a standstill...and footage of an ins of slush...makes us look a laughing stock around the world.

Edited January 5, 2010 by hannegan

[tynevalleywinter]

Does anyone know how much snow would 1 hours of 1mm rainfall produce?

[peterf]

Mderate snow falling here,big flakes...hmmm re snow making the headlines,I've seen 6' snow lying here and the BBC headlines being London at a standstill...and footage of an ins of slush...makes us look a laughing stock around the world.

aye its a bloody joke lol,wev'e had snow cover for 3 weeks come thursday.

Does anyone know how much snow would 1 hours of 1mm rainfall produce?

roughly times it by 10,so 1cm would be the outcome.

Edited January 5, 2010 by peterf

[Tucco]

I was in Basingstoke that night before xmas when the "Snowstorm of the decade" hit. It was terrible. So much snow! 3 inches you should of seen it!

4 inches of snow in the south= 4 foot of snow in the north !

To be fair to those in the South this does look an interesting event. Up to 40cm is very impressive.

The NE of England holds two winter records for the longest period of time below freezing in a inhabited area in Feb 1986 at Widdbank Fell.

Deepest lying snow in a inabited location 211cm March 1947 Forest in Teesdale.

Mark

Edited January 5, 2010 by Tucco

[tynevalleywinter]

heavy snow here now with flakes the size of cornflakes!

[Cloud 10]

Been below freezing since last Thursday here, just missed out on a ice week last year by a few hours.

Mark

You should manage the ice week come thursday then.

The next stage,an ice fortnight!