Model Banter, Moans and Ramps

[Captain Shortwave]

But at least it will be cold!

The issue is and this the the crutch of the argument

10C is not classified as cold. Never has and never will be.

All this spell will bring is cool weather with some chilly nights with a patchy ground frost in favoured spots where the skies are clear, which will be at the moment north west England and Western Scotland.

[phil nw.]

Yes seasonal weather for me.

Too early to wish cold for the sake of it as nothing exciting would come of it yet.

November onwards yes,cold,crisp and frosty with bright days or snow i don.t mind.

In the meantime this lovely warm sunshine with the Autumn colours is quite acceptable. 

[Mr Frost]

Guess it depends on preferences/activities each person has/does. I snowboard and always look forward to mid October onwards as it usually brings the first hope of frequent snow showers over the higher hill/mountains in the highlands. I get excited when the first mention of wintry over the Scottish mountains arrives in the metoffice forecast.

So for me October is not pointless for cold weather but I can definitely understand why others find that it is.

[Captain Shortwave]

Guess it depends on preferences/activities each person has/does. I snowboard and always look forward to mid October onwards as it usually brings the first hope of frequent snow showers over the higher hill/mountains in the highlands. I get excited when the first mention of wintry over the Scottish mountains arrives in the metoffice forecast.So for me October is not pointless for cold weather but I can definitely understand why others find that it is.

That's fair enough to be honest.

I can understand SI feelings due to being in one of the parts of the UK which was first buried in low cloud from the remains of ex-tropical storm Humberto and then stuck on the battle zone between the high to the East and the Atlantic low. Worth bearing in mind that whilst western areas saw very little sun. Some further east saw Sunny conditions prevail most days over the last 2 weeks.

In the end if conditions down here were cool and bright with a few showers I wouldn't be too bothered. It's just the fact that it could rain constantly for several days which is doing my head in as frankly not one person on this site I bet would be happy with that.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Captain shortwave

[simshady]

To be honest I love the cold weather and I don't mind the rain either...we should be thankful that we live in such a climate with lots of rain...we'd be in trouble without it....it is our lifeblood after all.

[Richard2901]

Today was forecast to be fine and sunny with temps up to 18C so I thought it'll be the final chance to enjoy some warm weather this year. Wrong as it's just more of the same depressing rank grey filth that we have had to endure on all but one of the past 9 days. A useless, write-off day with zero sunshine 

 

Looking at the satellite it's just ridiculous. There is an area of stagnant cloud just stuck over us that just won't move or break up despite there being plenty of clear skies all around.  I am beyond sick of this garbage. 1 sunny day in 10 and 2 sunny days out of 13 is absolutely dire even by this country's standards. A pattern change can't come soon enough as literally anything would be better than this cloudy mild nothingness which, as well as being extremely uninteresting, is disastrous for the tree foliage as demonstrated perfectly by the autumns of 2006 and 2011.

 

October used to be one of the more interesting months as a wide variety of conditions would be possible: the last warmth of summer, the first frost of winter, gales and storms. Now none of these are likely. Just endless cloudy mild nights, maxes of 11-14C, low diurnal ranges and the odd bit of drizzle. 

 

Real warm Octobers of the past like 1921, 1959 and 1969 saw 21C reached whereas pathetic trash like 2005, 2006, 2011 and now 2013 can't even reach 18C

[Gaz1985]

To be honest I love the cold weather and I don't mind the rain either...we should be thankful that we live in such a climate with lots of rain...we'd be in trouble without it....it is our lifeblood after all.

 

Not really, we have an ocean surrounding us, ever heard of desalination? places like Spain and the Middle East use desalinated water for everything.

[simshady]

Not really, we have an ocean surrounding us, ever heard of desalination? places like Spain and the Middle East use desalinated water for everything.

 

Duh?   why have desalination plants when it rains so much...lol...no need for it when we get soooo much lovely rain.., oh and the cold too, that's nice, cold and rain is even better, can't wait..

Edited October 6, 2013 by simshady

[Gaz1985]

Duh?   why have desalination plants when it rains so much...lol.....

 

You said we'd be in trouble without it duh, how can we be when we're surrounded by ocean which can be turned into drinking water if we end up as dry as Spain  Considering the Atlantic seems to be giving us less rain these days who knows in the future we may have to use desalination more widely in the country.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Gaz1985

[stainesbloke]

Not really, we have an ocean surrounding us, ever heard of desalination? places like Spain and the Middle East use desalinated water for everything.

Unfortunately desalination is very expensive, if you can afford the huge hikes in water bills great, if not then its a different story.

[Gaz1985]

Unfortunately desalination is very expensive, if you can afford the huge hikes in water bills great, if not then its a different story.

 

Yep I agree it is expensive and if push comes to shove and if our climate gets drier we will have no other option but to use desalination, might as well use the trillions of litres of water that is right next to us eh? and it all gets recycled back into the sea too.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Gaz1985

[No Balls Like Snow Balls]

Yes, sunshine, warmth, people out and about enjoying themselves with smiles on their faces.....terrible isn't it.....

 

The world doesn't stop when it is not warm. People still smile and enjoy themselves whatever the weather.

Wouldn't be much of a life if we base our moods and the daily life on the weather.

[stainesbloke]

Yep I agree it is expensive and if push comes to shove and if our climate gets drier we will have no other option but to use desalination, might as well use the trillions of litres of water that is right next to us eh? and it all gets recycled back into the sea too.

Sounds perfect, just hope the technology to do it gets lots better, which it should do eventually to be fair. My concern is that it would give greedy utility companies another excuse to charge the Earth again. It's been a belter of a day here in W London, absolutely stunning Still need lots of rain as I've said before. Hope it stays warm-ish though Oct til November though.

[Gaz1985]

Sounds perfect, just hope the technology to do it gets lots better, which it should do eventually to be fair. My concern is that it would give greedy utility companies another excuse to charge the Earth again.

It's been a belter of a day here in W London, absolutely stunning Still need lots of rain as I've said before. Hope it stays warm-ish though Oct til November though.

 

I agree mate.

[Milhouse]

We have colder weather on the way which i guess its what you expect in October. However, apart from 1 day of possible clear northerlies its looking like a north sea muckfest. I am hoping low pressure doesnt park itself in the North Sea as it can bring very dreary conditions to eastern coasts.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Milhouse

[No Balls Like Snow Balls]

Oh no the warm weather brigade are posting charts at T240 that's when i know its turning colder.

Off to the lake district at the end off this week. Hopefully it will stay cool and there will be some nice crisp mornings in the mountains.

Edited October 6, 2013 by No Balls Like Snow Balls

[Jax]

It's been a belter of a day here in W London, absolutely stunning Still need lots of rain as I've said before. Hope it stays warm-ish though Oct til November though.

Was just to the north of you today and agree it was a belter of a day, and I hope it continues too for a few weeks more.

I agree mate.

me three

[cheese]

Today was very nice; a cool, dewy start followed by a warm afternoon. If the upcoming period of cooler weather delivers sunshine and nighttime frosts, then I am all for it! Temps around 14C by day and 1-3C by night with sunshine is the best combination for brilliant autumnal colours. Nothing beats crisp fresh sunshine IMO.

 

If we end up getting lots of cloud, then I'll be annoyed, but it's been dull recently anyway, so the only change will be a decrease in temps.

Edited October 6, 2013 by cheese

[cobbett]

Yes, sunshine, warmth, people out and  about enjoying themselves with smiles on their faces.....terrible isn't it.....

 

 

The world doesn't stop when it is not warm. People still smile and enjoy themselves whatever the weather.

Wouldn't be much of a life if we base our moods and the daily life on the weather.

Lol I think the point was being out and about  - not sure many will have a smile on their faces, I'll take refuge in the pub

[BlueSkies_do_I_see]

Could October be coming in like a lamb and and out like a lion? I am not sure I am ready for winter just yet, we missed out on half a spring. Don't want to do the same in autumn!

[Average Joe]

The world doesn't stop when it is not warm. 

Did I say that it did? 

[BlueSkies_do_I_see]

To look on the positive side, as much as I love mild weather outside of winter, the northerly is due to deliver more sunshine on Thurs and Friday than the southerly/westerly will in the first part of the week.

[Jax]

Could October be coming in like a lamb and and out like a lion? I am not sure I am ready for winter just yet, we missed out on half a spring. Don't want to do the same in autumn!

Yes, lets "have" the seasons in the right order and a decent amount of them, the last long winter and apparent lack of spring was not fun.

 

To look on the positive side, as much as I love mild weather outside of winter, the northerly is due to deliver more sunshine on Thurs and Friday than the southerly/westerly will in the first part of the week.

I am hanging on to that change to more sunshine too.

[Captain Shortwave]

sigh, for the people on here it's rather baffling to see people celebrating charts which would provide the same surface conditions except it will be 5C cooler.

Neither warm or cold, just cool, breezy and mostly cloudy with outbreaks of rain at times, some heavy in the south east for a time.

So after much ranting and raving about cloudy and damp conditions over the past couple of weeks, you are celebrating charts which deliver the same thing.

I'm sorry but I cannot at all get excited over this, boring, depressing easterly muck.

[cobbett]

Thankfully the metoffice update at least for the south is for near or above avg temps for the south for end of oct. reading the mod thread makes it appear winter is fast approaching but just like the elusive hunt for the white stuff its more in hope than anything else !