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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

The ECM puts us into the fire at just 6 days out.

ECM1-144.GIF?25-0

ECM0-144.GIF?25-0

Pretty much all of the UK under the 16C isotherm with 850s of 22C in the south.

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  • Location: Catchgate, Durham,705ft asl
  • Location: Catchgate, Durham,705ft asl

ECM 12z has +22c 850's into the south on Wednesday. 8)

 

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850's anomalies for same time. :shok:

 

 

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

The ECM puts us into the fire at just 6 days out.

ECM1-144.GIF?25-0

ECM0-144.GIF?25-0

Pretty much all of the UK under the 16C isotherm with 850s of 22C in the south.

 

Surface temperatures into the low 30s.

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  • Location: Maltby, Rotherham - 150m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold! Winter :)
  • Location: Maltby, Rotherham - 150m ASL

Yes, and you dont usualy bet against the ECM at T144 and below do you. Things starting to come into semi-reliable timeframe now so lets hope we can firm up over the next 48-72 hours of these charts coming off!

 

ECU0-144.GIF?25-0

 

Notice the nice little pocket of +20c uppers just for me in Sheffield hehe :p

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

Looks like the ECM develops a line of thunderstorms for Thursday across the spine of the UK, the east retaining the heat.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Looks like the ECM develops a line of thunderstorms for Thursday across the spine of the UK, the east retaining the heat.

 

Yep could be some torrential thunderstorms breaking out too

 

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More comfortable temperatures and more settled for the Friday

 

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

The day 8 ECM chart is very deceptive, temperatures would be widely into the twenties with the south east remain very warm or even hot with the 12C isotherm hanging on with high heights and a southerly wind. The final charts could look fun with the heat potentially pushing back north again.

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .

Looking just upto T144hrs the ECM remains the hottest followed by the GFS and the UKMO which is the most progressive.

 

The ECM brings 20+ 850's in at T144hrs with the far se clinging onto this at T168hrs. After this it looks like a dogs dinner with a very complex set up.

 

Theres still a chance that a renewed surge of heat could occur later depending on the orientation of any troughing in the Atlantic.

 

Hard to say which model is right as the margins on a global scale are small however the further west the pattern is initially the higher chance of that heat getting in within the T144hrs timeframe.

 

Early phasing of that small and deeper low with the main one to the west of the UK is important to help pull the hot air north, at the moment the initial really hot weather looks like lasting max 2 days, it looks to still remain very warm afterwards, the changeover could see some severe thunderstorms.

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

Looking at this evenings GEFS anomalies the most noticeable detail is the phasing out of the trough to the west. So it looks good to go until the end of the ext period with HP in control perhaps becoming more Azores orientated. This still leaves the detail of a somewhat complex scenario for next week to resolved as the METO stressed:

 

 

It’s worth saying that there is some uncertainty about how much of the hot weather from the continent will reach us, and it may only last a couple of days before temperatures drop a little. As is traditional with hot weather in the UK in the summer it may end with thunderstorms.

 

 

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

The GFS is the run of choice for heat lovers, the ECM for storm fans. 

 

Even though I hate hot weather this is thoroughly interesting.

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  • Location: Evesham/ Tewkesbury
  • Weather Preferences: Enjoy the weather, you can't take it with you 😎
  • Location: Evesham/ Tewkesbury

Evening Weather fans, , The Plume next week is out of the reliable timeframe, but the thing what excites me is the potential for some really big thunderstorms on what is shown on tonights  models.  We will have to see if this trend continues, because we all know that plumes across the Uk can be extremely difficult to model.....as experience as told me this far out , come Summer or Winter... :oops:  :nonono:  :D

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

A pretty good set of ensembles from the ECM for next week

EDM1-144.GIF?25-0

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Even the mean has the 18C isotherm getting close to the south of the UK. It remains very warm to hot through the rest of that week, especially so in south east.

Still questions on the strength of the plume and how robust any heights are to our east. We still have a lot of answers to get though there is a high chance of 30C being reached next week.

 

BTW the GEM control run is fun to look at just for laughs.

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The Ecm 12z ensemble mean this evening indicates an increasingly very warm / hot spell next week, hottest across the south and east with humidity levels rising considerably. I expect plenty of sunshine across the board and high uv levels, the sunshine is likely to turn more hazy over time as the air quality deteriorates and I think the heat will spark isolated intense storms, I think storms could possibly become a bigger feature of our weather through the second half of next week, especially during the breakdown phase towards the end of next week although I'm actually hoping the hot spell will stick around for some time since I think we have seen enough cool north westerly dross so far this spring / summer..bring on the heatwave :)

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

Very interesting Vorticity. Thanks. By coincidence I was just reading this in Jeff Master's blog which I have posted in the N. American weather thread.

 

 

The atmosphere over North America will slide back into a familiar pattern this weekend, as a powerful upper ridge and record heat take hold of the Pacific Northwest and western Canada while an unusually strong upper low for late June brings wet, cool conditions from the Ohio Valley through the mid-Atlantic into New England. It’s yet another variation on the warm-west/cool-east pattern that predominated through much of 2014 and early 2015.

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl

After a couple of months dominated in the main by a typical atlantic albeit cool airflow, the models are now suggesting something very different for next week, with as explained above a meridional amplified flow, and this time we are on the right side of the trough in terms of something heatwise. Too early to call how warm things will become and how long lasting any very warm/hot spell will be. Low pressure will be lurking to the west and southwest ready to cast aside the plume quickly, in this respect its a fragile synoptical set up for anything sustained in terms of warmth, but a shortlived very warm/hot spell will most likely be welcomed by many at a time when we can maximise hours of daylight.

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Looks like the 18z is going to be more progressive than the 12z GFS run, hotter earlier but over potentially over quicker with weaker (almost none existent) heights to the north east of the UK offering no resistance to the Atlantic.

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  • Location: King’s Lynn, Norfolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and Thundery, Cold and Snowy
  • Location: King’s Lynn, Norfolk.

Looks like the 18z is going to be more progressive than the 12z GFS run, hotter earlier but over potentially over quicker with weaker (almost none existent) heights to the north east of the UK offering no resistance to the Atlantic.

Still remains warm or very warm particularly in the East into FI stages on the 18z.

By my standards and for the UK, the 18z is still an exceptionally good run.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

Looks like a good run to me: never cool, mostly very warm or hot, and two or three chances of storms...

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

So far so good this morning with the GFS 00z an improvement on the last couple of runs.

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The UKMO this morning also showing a much better solution compared to previous runs which have been progressive to say the least.

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Day 6 charts

GFS

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UKMO

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Both models turn hot by midweek, potentially very hot in the south. Mid thirties again on the GFS by Thursday as 850s approach 24C in southern areas with the 20C isotherm covering most of England.

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  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth

After some suggestions yesterday that everything will be moved slightly east, this mornings runs pull the pattern back west. As CS has mentioned, direct hits from the plume next week from both GFS and UKMO. The GFS then brings the 20C 850s line back to the south coast another two times later in the run - so the idea of a repeating pattern still very much alive.

Another remarkable milestone in the GEFS ensembles - the mean 850s now exceeds 20C by T144.

Pressure never particularly high so storm potential exists at several stages.

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While still decent I'm not liking the trends in the last few runs, it's clear again on the this morning GFS 00z run heights won't build over the continent anywhere near enough to prevent the Atlantic spilling in. looks more like a messy breakdown into late next week assuming things don't get punted east which in reality still seems the most logical solution. Still a couple of days do seem likely to potentially produce the highest temos since July 2006. I think to achieve that we have the 1st August 2013 to beat??

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

Latest EC32 update (although I doubt there will be much interest for obvious reasons) starting on the 5th.

 

Quite strong ridging NW Europe and eastern Pacific with trough Russia and a weak trough west of the UK. Surface analysis HP NW Europe and western Atlantic with a broad area of LP to the NW of the UK. Resulting in a WSW flow over the UK and very warm particularly in the SE.

 

This scenario develops into a broad area of HP in the Pacific and Atlantic by the 12th with a weakening Atlantic trough. On the surface the Azores HP is in control with the HP slackening over NW Europe so a W/NW flow with temps returning to average,

 

For the next week until the 19th there is little change from this with temps around average or somewhat above.

 

From here to the 27th again little change with HP in control in the Pacific and Atlantic with a suggestion of a weak trough around Iceland so the W/NW flow persists with temps still around average.

 

Summary

 

After next week all one can say is things settle down under the watchful eye of the Azores HP and it looks like being a very pleasant month with temps average or even a little above.

 

Purely as a matter of interest it has the very hot weather touching the SW 00z Tuesday moving north and east until orientated SW/NE across northern France and Germany by Sunday. Obviously events on the mesoscale level are eagerly awaited.

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