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  • Location: Dorset
  • Weather Preferences: warehamwx.co.uk
  • Location: Dorset
2 minutes ago, Alderc said:

The accumulated radar totals from Cornwall are already concerning. Spot totals over 100mm already in places. Unfortunately I'm expecting to see isolated severe flash floods, could be some concerning images in the next hour or two.

I was just having a gander at that myself..

3 hour accumulations:

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  • Location: Bedworth , Warwickshire , 52.475°N 1.477°W
  • Weather Preferences: Dull And Uninteresting Weather
  • Location: Bedworth , Warwickshire , 52.475°N 1.477°W
8 hours ago, BrickFielder said:

I see a few discussions about supercells in the last day and thought a simple explanation might help. If winds change direction as you go up in the atmosphere then clouds will have a tendency to twist as air rises. If winds at a low level are light and winds increase with height then louds will tilt along with the higher winds aloft. Tilting will separate updraft and downdraft regions  and the twisting will rotate the cloud giving a supercell. If winds at the surface are very light and higher at the cloud base level  then winds will tend to have a rolling barrel effect below the cloud. This rolling or horizontal vorticity can be picked up by a twisting updraft region to form a tornado. This is very rare in the UK but not so rare in Europe hence why Estofex alerts tend to happen more in Europe.

As for today then the models would suggest storms for the west , east and north but not central areas.

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Upper level cooling is not really there like yesterday  for Northern parts so maybe not as high a risk of severe storms although I notice some model anomalies.

 

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Looking at Satellite images then I see a frontal system moving eastward across parts of the west with embedded storms. That front seems to be moving faster than forecast so I am not totally convinced by modelling of where and when storms will occur. 

 

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Tomorrow is a different scenario with a frontal system turning  thundery across Wales and central areas through the afternoon. Upper level cooling is better but the atmosphere profile has a tendency to be moist all the way up to the troposphere so there is a risk of very messy convection.

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Think radar watching might be a better option at this point.

 

like reading your posts always informative and as for tomorrow are we looking like more larger areas of thundery rain in the afternoon rather than shall i say more discrete showers\storms because of front or is that a simplistic way of looking at it

oh and anybody feel free to answer

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  • Location: Benfleet, South Essex
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and breezy with a bit of cloud, about 20C
  • Location: Benfleet, South Essex

Thunder very loud now, got some light rain too but I think the heaviest is falling pointlessly into the Thames

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4 minutes ago, Justin1705 said:

really does not stop it being muggy tho. its 33c down here whilst your 25c

Yes, the definition of muggy is 'unpleasantly warm and humid, relative humidities in the 20-30% in high twenties temperatures is not muggy. Doesn't mean its not warm though.

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  • Location: Exeter, Devon, UK. alt 10m asl
  • Location: Exeter, Devon, UK. alt 10m asl

Some very impressive wind shear on the the storm over Exeter, clouds going in every direction possible at some rate of knots with what looks like rotation to my untrained eye.  Rolling thunder (cloud-cloud, no flashes) for the past 40 mins.

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  • Location: Taunton Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, warm sunny days , gales in Autumn , frost in Winter .
  • Location: Taunton Somerset

Stuck on the A30 near Exeter with torrential rain .

Lighting all around  should be clearer going up M5 if the radar is right.

 

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  • Location: Barry, South Wales (40M/131ft asl)
  • Weather Preferences: Cold snowy Winters, warm stormy spring & sumemr, cool frosty Autumn!
  • Location: Barry, South Wales (40M/131ft asl)

Shame the storm over the SW is dying out before getting to South Wales, knowing my luck we will get a storm here when I'm working 12 miles away and I'll miss it 😅

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  • Location: Blackwood SE Wales
  • Location: Blackwood SE Wales
3 minutes ago, DeepSnow said:

Shame the storm over the SW is dying out before getting to South Wales, knowing my luck we will get a storm here when I'm working 12 miles away and I'll miss it 😅

just hoping it does that thing where it reignites as it hits the coast!

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  • Location: Taunton Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, warm sunny days , gales in Autumn , frost in Winter .
  • Location: Taunton Somerset

The sun is shining and adding heat so I think that the storms might just keep going throughout the south west .

The rain was dancing if you know what I mean off of the road and the windscreen wipers had their work cut out. 

Still v v muggy mind you . 

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29 minutes ago, Justin1705 said:

really does not stop it being muggy tho. its 33c down here whilst your 25c

And at a sticky 60% humidity 😅

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  • Location: Blackwood SE Wales
  • Location: Blackwood SE Wales

I believe the South Wales valleys have lit up with its first bit of lightning! heard a rumble to my West! - nothing on blitz

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  • Location: Godalming
  • Weather Preferences: Plumes and streamers
  • Location: Godalming
42 minutes ago, swebby said:

Some very impressive wind shear on the the storm over Exeter, clouds going in every direction possible at some rate of knots with what looks like rotation to my untrained eye.  Rolling thunder (cloud-cloud, no flashes) for the past 40 mins.

Probably very elevated - had a storm like that about 2 years ago in Hants after a very hot spell. Saw almost no lightning but there was long rumbling from the cloud nearby for over an hour

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  • Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, 110m
  • Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, 110m

Anyone in Lincolnshire? Wondering if I've missed out on something special by deciding not to chase today

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  • Location: Taunton, Somerset.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, high teens to low 20's,sunny and convective
  • Location: Taunton, Somerset.

Just got home just b4 five and just in time as got storm and just constant thunder

 

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  • Location: martock,somerset where some tractors are
  • Location: martock,somerset where some tractors are
7 minutes ago, AnvilCrawlers said:

Just got home just b4 five and just in time as got storm and just constant thunder

 

All quiet here that might change 

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  • Location: Taunton Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, warm sunny days , gales in Autumn , frost in Winter .
  • Location: Taunton Somerset
5 minutes ago, AnvilCrawlers said:

Just got home just b4 five and just in time as got storm and just constant thunder

 

I'm arriving back in Taunton now. 

Is it still going on thunder wise ? 

Can't hear anything because I'm in the car lol .

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