Scotland - Weather Chat

[edo]

Any good links for discussion on the American storm? I have some good webcams someone on here gave links to before but it would be interesting to see what they are saying on American netweather....I also have a stream for the weather channel which will be worth watching when it kicks off

Edited January 26, 2015 by edodfc

[edo]

http://www.weather.com/tv/the-weather-channel-live/video/watch-the-weather-channel-live

[GraemeB]

Think there's more potential next Monday for some snow as well...

[November13]

It's good it's moved back to 9am Wednesday. At least there is agreement the cold will dig in from the wee small hours of Wed. Just the boring non day tomorrow to get through. I think we might all get something out of this. We have had some snow but not what I would term real snow.

 

I reckon 4   inches and above is proper snow!

[edo]

I will add N13 to Rab on the ramp list

Not on board yet giving it another 24 hours

[grifter]

The Weds/Thurs Met Office yellow warning has recently updated its snow figure to 5-10 cm at low level across Scotland/N Ireland.

 

Lets all email the met and tell them to stop tempting fate ! I'll believe it when I see it! I think what one forecaster said was we need to concentrate on getting the cold set up first before even thinking about snow. Like getting flour, sugar, eggs and a beater before even thinking about licking the bowl!

 

And heres's my attempt at sounding semi-pro lol - is there agreement from all the models?

Edited January 26, 2015 by grifter

[Gogoslo]

Bright and sunny here with a biting wind.     Wind chill later in the week will be interesting..     

 

3 year old daughter is desperate to build a snowman..  ( No guessing her favourite film  ).       Fingers crossed we may see some white stuff this week....

[Kayemill]

A repeat of last week will do me fine.

 

I think we would need to be incredibly lucky to hit the jackpot again with the showers this week though.

 

This morning we only had a small snow patch on the front garden. I don't see it lasting to wed though.

 

I'll keep my fingers crossed for midweek.

[lorenzo]

http://www.weather.com/tv/the-weather-channel-live/video/watch-the-weather-channel-live

 

That coverage is making me wish I was in Boston !

[jellybaby1969]

A repeat of last week will do me fine.

 

I think we would need to be incredibly lucky to hit the jackpot again with the showers this week though.

 

This morning we only had a small snow patch on the front garden. I don't see it lasting to wed though.

 

I'll keep my fingers crossed for midweek.

I think The western Highlands and down to the dumfreishire coast will do well.. prob showers will push well inland. I am expecting a real good dump in Ayrshire

Edited January 26, 2015 by jellybaby1969

[snowy owl]

Gogoslo we were having a conversation with my daughter she is called Elsa. Yes really !!! And she was singing last night, then asking when are we going to get enough snow to build a snowman?!

I think I'll suggest a move to Boston lol!!

Lorenzo I keep watching the weather channel updates!! Showed last years similar snow amounts using their snow blowers. Fancy one of those snow blowers they look fab!

Edited January 26, 2015 by snowy owl

[Hawesy]

I'd be happy with 1cm that stayed long enough to go out for a walk on. Still snowstarved in the SE (as are many parts of the east). I'm up at my parents' until tomorrow night, and they've still got a big patch of snow in the corner of the front grass so it's feeling quite cool and wintery even if the weather isn't cold today.

 

We'll see what happens on Weds & Thurs, by the sounds of it some places are going to get a good dump of snow but I can understand us easties being somewhat underwhelmed when we've been warned before and then gone with next to nothing.

Absolutely Catch, I would be very happy (probably more like amazed) by 1cm on the ground. No expectations though. I think many of the same areas who saw the week before last will do well again - should be an interesting couple of days.

 

Lovely here today in NE Fife, 7c under sunny skies.

[November13]

Does anyone think the yellow will change to Orange later tomorrow?

[lorenzo]

Here is the thread on netwx for the New England Storm if you want to track the snowporn.

 

https://forum.netweather.tv/topic/32704-north-american-weather-usa-canada/page-178#entry3140132

[Ravelin]

Does anyone think the yellow will change to Orange later tomorrow?

 

Entirely possible, for at least some of the area, I'd say, obviously depending on that the models are showing. As for my location, well we're now under the modified Yellow along with everyone else north of the border. Having looked at various forecasts through to Thursday (Met, BBC Weather, Yr.no etc) I'm not sure why we're covered as they seem to be suggesting cold but largely dry.

[November13]

Yeh it might be a nowcast Ravelin. i.e A couple of inches fall on Wednesday, and they crank it up during the day to amber.

[Guest]

Yeh it might be a nowcast Ravelin. i.e A couple of inches fall on Wednesday, and they crank it up during the day to amber.

 

Defo need to move to tartan weather warnings. One colour which is defined by the actual weather which is going to happen, and a different colour for the scale of disruption based on population density and how acclimatised the population is to the weather coming their way. The current system which sees overinflated weather warnings, dependent on the population density/acclimatisation to weather types rather than the actual weather, doesn't cut it for me and I think a number of other people feel the same.

[Stormeh]

So I was standing in the queue at the post office and a couple of woman started talking about the weather and one said "did you read the news? we are going to get blizzards and temperatures of -15c this week. It is coming from the USA, it's going to be the worst winter in decades."

I said to them the media talk rubbish, yes it will turn colder with some snow etc but we are not heading into the worst winter in decades.

WTF are the newspapers all about? I bloody hate them!

[November13]

I know I heard folk saying it was coming from the USA! I didn't realise the US owned the polar maritime?

[Mandy Langlands]

My dad ( who worked winter maintenance in Dundee for 28 yrs) argues with me all the time about us getting Usa's snow.  He said it again this morning " see we are to get the bad snow over here from America on Thursday"  i did not reply!!     

[NorthernRab]

Read a response on the Express article the other day which had numerous 'thumbs up' from other readers saying something along the lines of: 'I survived the winter of 62/63 and this was long before any of this polar vortex or artic oscillation existed and it were much worse then!'

I physically cringed while reading it!

[mistyqueen]

Bet the white stuff misses Skye altogether! Well, nothing new there then!

[snowy owl]

Amanda - my dad says the same!!!! You know that we get the weather from America- eeeeeeeek!!! Drives me crazy

Edited January 26, 2015 by snowy owl

[LomondSnowstorm]

If we're going to be pedantic about it (but still not exactly very sound meteorologically) Wednesday night's snow is actually coming from the snow hitting Newfoundland:

 

The New York blizzard low doesn't make an appearance until Saturday, when it phases with our low:

 

Looking pretty good though all in all, some of the lowest heights I've seen over Scotland with resultant trough activity and low surface temperatures relative to the uppers:

With westerly winds, slack low heights (far lower than last time) and deep surface cold I'd expect a number of us to see some decent accumulations Wednesday into Thursday. Hard to pin down where but west is probably best for precipitation, although it could snow almost anywhere with these features cropping up.

The main problem day we have is Friday, when the GFS wants to bring a trough down the country but at the same time brings a warm sector associated with the core of the low down as well:

You'd get away with maybe -3C, but not -1C uppers:

 

Fortunately, the UKMO still has the core of the low a bit further east, with a cleaner Arctic source meaning that the warm sector is pretty much closed out (although potentially still a risk for western areas):

 Similar to last night's FAX chart, and you can see the occlusions heading down the country:

 

If we can avoid the warm sector, and a potential subsequent one on Saturday, then we could easily be looking at a superb extended spell of snow, with closed circulation secondary lows and then troughs embedded in an Arctic northerly bringing more opportunities through into next week:

   

 

 

Thereafter, hard to say but increasingly it looks like we might end up with at least a UK high setup, with very cold surface temperatures possible where snow cover remains (which optimistically I'd say could be all of us but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet):

This high has been gradually getting further and further north in the FI outlook, from a 'Bartlett' a few days ago to its current position, so a bit further and we could end up with full Greenland retrogression and properly entrenched deep cold, or at least a slack, very cold 'toppler' easterly.

It's been a slow burner this winter but finally we might just be nearing something approaching 'proper' cold and snow. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read a response on the Express article the other day which had numerous 'thumbs up' from other readers saying something along the lines of: 'I survived the winter of 62/63 and this was long before any of this polar vortex or artic oscillation existed and it were much worse then!'

I physically cringed while reading it!

 

Superb, better not show them this chart of the Arctic Oscillation tanking and the vortex heading into Russia or they'd flip out:

Edited January 26, 2015 by LomondSnowstorm

[Ross Andrew Hemphill]

Midweek is looking really good for me. Will it beat the 17cm I had last week??