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Model discussion: Hunt for cold - The start of 2022


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  • Location: North East Cotswolds, 232m, 761feet ASL
  • Location: North East Cotswolds, 232m, 761feet ASL

Day 10 not bad, v close to being great. Let’s see what the ENS do

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FI also shows something interesting. 

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  • Location: Coventry
  • Location: Coventry
Just now, Kasim Awan said:

These charts are the most interesting I've seen all winter. A clean retrogression on gfs with the vortex moving over to Siberia is what it needed in this stubborn +NAO setup imo.

GFS op is good at sniffing out a pattern change, let's see if the signal is picked up in the extended EPS/clusters

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  • Location: North East Cotswolds, 232m, 761feet ASL
  • Location: North East Cotswolds, 232m, 761feet ASL

It could be the best northerly I’ve ever seen modelled albeit in deep Fi 

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Its about a 5000 mile northerly

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  • Location: Port Talbot
  • Location: Port Talbot
3 minutes ago, Ali1977 said:

WOW, what a chart - big FI warning granted, but lovely to see. 

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There’s room for that vortex to move westwards over American, look how slack the pressure is. No high to push it back. Could we possibly seeing a possibility of a split?

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  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, snow, warm sunny days.
  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl
2 minutes ago, Battleground Snow said:

GFS op is good at sniffing out a pattern change, let's see if the signal is picked up in the extended EPS/clusters

I think the GFS has got it's runs mixed up with the pub run.

This is absolutely insane

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

Lovely clean evolution this run, not littered with spoiler shortwaves, these are how the genuine cold spells do arrive, not saying it will verify and spoilers wont pop up, just that if this was in the semi-reliable and well supported, i would be more confident than a lot of those failed ones.

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  • Location: Bedfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: Seasonal
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Cor blimey. If only...

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Over reaction to the AAM signal, that others have mentioned, perhaps?

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  • Location: Biddulph, Staffordshire Moorlands 750f ABSL
  • Location: Biddulph, Staffordshire Moorlands 750f ABSL
58 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

All aboard the Anticyclonic Gloom Train?

 

I would suggest watching this after all the 'boom' posts in the last 30 minutes and look how the Met Office use 'decider' to predict weather patterns at a longer range

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  • Location: redcar,cleveland
  • Weather Preferences: Winter cold,snow and frost. Summer hot and thundery
  • Location: redcar,cleveland

At 360hrs only got another 312hrs before it’s in the reliable

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  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, snow, warm sunny days.
  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl

I would love this run to come true just to prove a few members wrong that are so confident the winter is done for. 

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  • Location: st albans
  • Location: st albans
1 minute ago, D.V.R said:

I would love this run to come true just to prove a few members wrong that are so confident the winter is done for. 

That’s the reason you’d love that run to verify ???

 

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  • Location: Solihull, WestMidlands, 121m asl -20 :-)
  • Weather Preferences: Cold and Snow -20 would be nice :)
  • Location: Solihull, WestMidlands, 121m asl -20 :-)

The PV is axed 

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  • Location: Bournemouth
  • Weather Preferences: Dry mild or snow winter. Hot and humid summer.
  • Location: Bournemouth

Just got in had a look at the output. Don’t suppose anyone has mentioned this. said a couple of days ago that fi would throw some great looking charts out. But it remains fi although stunning to look at and dream. Going to read through 5 pages of posts to see if anyone has noticed this.

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  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, snow, warm sunny days.
  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl
3 minutes ago, bluearmy said:

That’s the reason you’d love that run to verify ???

 

And lots of snow.

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  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
6 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

Crikey...its like January 1940 all over again....

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What are the 850's associated with that chart WH? 

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

BTW - although i don't think it will verify for one minute, that video from the Met Office doesn't cover the  timescale of the GFS Northerly plunge, it occurs after day 10.

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