North West Regional Discussion March 2022 onwards

[Joe Snow]

Ground is parched here in the south of the region it’s been a dry June. Haven’t seen the ground as dry this early in the summer since the hot summer of 2018. 

[SnowThunder]

Certainly feels a lot cooler than 18c today combined with it being fairly windy

[iand61]

It’s stayed fine all day but just about to head to the local for a swift few beers and it’s raining.

Suns still out though and nowt much showing on the radar so hopefully it will soon stop.

[severe snowstorm]

A brighter end to the afternoon here with some evening sunshine now. The temperature still managed to get to 21.2C today, despite the predominantly cloudy conditions, and so the air had a warm/thick feel to it, despite the wind. Metoffice mentioning the chance of overnight rain turning thundery so perhaps an outside chance of a rumble or two.

[damianslaw]

Very poor summer's day here, feels more akin to the end of summer. Incessant bursts of rain throughout temps hovering around 14 degrees for much of the day, no sunshine or bright spells, chilly wind as well. Miserable.

[Weather-history]

Don't make storms like this anymore

150 years ago last week

Edited June 27, 2022 by Weather-history

[Cheshire Freeze]

13 hours ago, Joe Snow said:

Ground is parched here in the south of the region it’s been a dry June. Haven’t seen the ground as dry this early in the summer since the hot summer of 2018. 

Agree.

To me it's now quite concerning how these dry spells seem to be becoming more and more frequent. Even in set ups that look at face value to produce copious rainfall, we see very little. 

I'm looking at the mid range charts this morning and we see the same old thing...the Azores HP right on our doorstep. I call it the 'weather killer' because the weather is just pure bland nothingness when it arrives. The trouble is that it seems to be taking semi-permanent residence across the UK in recent times (perhaps due to Hadley cell expansion). It's doing us over in winter too. Its mean position is very obviously moving N, and at a fair old rate too.

Edited June 27, 2022 by CreweCold

[Weather-history]

8 hours ago, CreweCold said:

Agree.

To me it's now quite concerning how these dry spells seem to be becoming more and more frequent. Even in set ups that look at face value to produce copious rainfall, we see very little. 

I'm looking at the mid range charts this morning and we see the same old thing...the Azores HP right on our doorstep. I call it the 'weather killer' because the weather is just pure bland nothingness when it arrives. The trouble is that it seems to be taking semi-permanent residence across the UK in recent times (perhaps due to Hadley cell expansion). It's doing us over in winter too. Its mean position is very obviously moving N, and at a fair old rate too.

Are they becoming more frequent or is it cyclical?

 Or is the issue the rapid changes from very dry to very wet? For instance, last February was actually the 6th wettest February on record for the region. May 2021 was the 2nd wettest on record for the region whilst May 2020 was the driest May for the region. 2020  actually ended up being  the 6th wettest year on record. 

Wet has dominated recently overall which may surprise some. 2019, 2020 and 2021 were above average annual rainfall wise. 

When was the last time, the region had a June with about average rainfall wise? Believe it or not, that was June 2011. Junes since then have been at least 35% above or below the regional average.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 27, 2022 by Weather-history

[iand61]

Not been a bad day really.

18c max it got to but in the strong sunshine, it feels plenty warm enough.

just need any rain to pass through overnight so we can have more days like these.

[Rush2019]

Heard the rain about 4am, got wet walking to work at 6.30.  Had some hefty showers on and off all morning.  Brightened up lovely this afternoon with some fantastic cloud scales.

Scapes not scales.

[Frost HoIIow]

1 hour ago, iand61 said:

Not been a bad day really.

18c max it got to but in the strong sunshine, it feels plenty warm enough.

just need any rain to pass through overnight so we can have more days like these.

Yes not a bad day after some rain earlier, the sun certainly has a kick to it, more than enough to warm up the home naturally. I say from late May to late July it's genuinely strong and the opposite from late November to late January.

[severe snowstorm]

We had showery rain on and off this morning, but things dried up by lunchtime with the sun bursting through by mid afternoon. A high of 19.4C. 

[iand61]

When it comes to rain in our region, it’s not often that east is best but apart from a wet start, the last few days have certainly been ok here and tomorrow looks pretty good.

the M6 often marks the boundary between a dries west and wetter east but roles are reversed at the moment.

[SnowThunder]

Good running weather this evening, lovely warmth of the sun with a cool breeze

[damianslaw]

3 hours ago, iand61 said:

When it comes to rain in our region, it’s not often that east is best but apart from a wet start, the last few days have certainly been ok here and tomorrow looks pretty good.

the M6 often marks the boundary between a dries west and wetter east but roles are reversed at the moment.

Should that read wetter west and drier east..

Last night brought alot of rain here, can tell because my pots are full to the brim of water.. plants are having great conditions, largely because we are not seeing particularly dry warm weather combined.

Today despite bringing copious sunny spells brought maxima of 16 degrees, the airmass currently is cool for late June.

[Had Worse]

Something to make things exciting.

https://youtu.be/VEkrnOUQzVs

[Had Worse]

[WillinGlossop]

34 minutes ago, Had Worse said:

Good screen grab… quite active storms over Czech SW of Prague 

[iand61]

10 hours ago, iand61 said:

When it comes to rain in our region, it’s not often that east is best but apart from a wet start, the last few days have certainly been ok here and tomorrow looks pretty good.

the M6 often marks the boundary between a dries west and wetter east but roles are reversed at the moment.

No, the west, certainly the Fylde Coast are usually drier than the higher ground towards the east.

the set up may be different further south or north across the region but across Lancashire, the common tendency would be drier west, wetter east.

not at the moment though.

[WillinGlossop]

Apart from the thundery showers Saturday most showers missed here to east and west… weather systems modelled upto a few days out forecasting heavy rain usually fizzles before it gets here over the last 4-6 weeks… according to my rain gauge we’ve had 4.4mm in the last week and 22.4mm in the last month… 

suns out 14.8c breezy… off to Buxton in a bit… 

[WillinGlossop]

16c chilly strong breeze… overcast… rain to come overnight… 

whilst it’s 30c plus in northern Scandinavia and in the arctic north… 

Edited June 28, 2022 by WillinGlossop

[Cheshire Freeze]

37 minutes ago, WillinGlossop said:

16c chilly strong breeze… overcast… rain to come overnight… 

whilst it’s 30c plus in northern Scandinavia and in the arctic north… 

Yeah my mate in Tromsø is moaning that it’s too hot

[Frost HoIIow]

10 hours ago, iand61 said:

No, the west, certainly the Fylde Coast are usually drier than the higher ground towards the east.

the set up may be different further south or north across the region but across Lancashire, the common tendency would be drier west, wetter east.

not at the moment though.

Yeah southern parts of the region are definitely wetter in the east. We get a lot more rain than say Liverpool and Blackpool. For Cumbria it's the reverse, places like Windermere in the SW part of the county is far wetter than Penrith & Kirkby Stephen situated to the east of the Lake District fells. 

Edited June 28, 2022 by Frost HoIIow

[iand61]

50 minutes ago, Frost HoIIow said:

Yeah southern parts of the region are definitely wetter in the east. We get a lot more rain than say Liverpool and Blackpool. For Cumbria it's the reverse, places like Windermere in the SW part of the county is far wetter than Penrith & Kirkby Stephen situated to the east of the Lake District fells. 

It’s something I only really noticed during the few years that my in laws had a static caravan on a site near Blackpool.

they would spend much of the summer there and seldom said that days were ruined by rain and when we went at the weekend, we could be pretty sure of sitting out with a BBQ, even it was coolish.

anyway Blackpools rain has just reached here so that’s a night in the garden sacrificed for one sat in front of the telly

[severe snowstorm]

An overcast day here after early brightness with the rain setting in a couple of hours ago. Nothing that serious - light to moderate in intensity, but the weather now starting to make amends for all the dry weather we've had recently.