Storm Ciarán

[ANYWEATHER]

2 minutes ago, richie3846 said:

Yes of course, but without warnings, people will not be aware there is a danger, and then the death toll would be much higher. The red warnings with Eunice undoubtedly saved many lives. Many trees came down, that's the fact. The more people under those trees there are, the more will die. Those warnings give people a chance to assess the risks, some may do a better job than others of course, but overall, the warnings for the more severe events, will inevitably save lives, with the only costs being a small amount of disruption, normally for a single day of missed school or work. 

How did the human race survive up to now without warnings? 

[Had Worse]

1 minute ago, ANYWEATHER said:

How did the human race survive up to now without warnings? 

From learning post the event and telling those who survived about what they had seen.

[Met4Cast]

Just now, Had Worse said:

From learning post the event and telling those who survived about what they had seen.

And then using that learning to put measures in place to mitigate impacts/deaths in the future.. some people seem to be so afraid of knowledge, it's worrying.

[cobbett]

12 minutes ago, richie3846 said:

I'll just remind you that 17 people were killed by Eunice, and that was with a lot of people not going out. There's a statistical chance that if we all went out in big storms, more people would die for no reason other than trying to be brave or strong, trying to Impress, instead of authentic and smart. 

17 was for the whole of Europe in case anyone assumed it was for UK only 

[richie3846]

3 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:

How did the human race survive up to now without warnings? 

We survived the bubonic plague, modern outbreaks are much less lethal with modern medicines etc, and also allows us the joy of not having most of our friends and family killed by disease. These disease controls are probably similar to weather warnings in a way. A more pleasant way to enjoy life, with all those we love still with us, living and breathing, instead of squashed. 

[lawrenk]

13 minutes ago, Man With Beard said:

I think the Met Office have done very well for all parts, actually. They highlighted the high risk early on, but never completely committed to the storm, as was represented by the warning matrix they put out. It was on such a knife edge, they would have been foolish not to put out an amber warning, but they were clearly also right to retract warnings and not move to the red warning. A few years back, I felt the Met Office were all over the place with their warnings, but they nail them for my area of the UK 9 times out of 10 these days.

Spot on.

Shame some people don’t read properly the matrix for the MO warnings. It appears that there was never enough certainty to go full on to a red, with all that would have entailed for local authorities etc. but just enough doubt to be responsible and make people aware of the possibilities. Think they handled it very well, personally.

I think some people have an unrealistic view as to the ability of the MO to micro detail when and where risk may occur.

[Lakigigar]

9 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:

How did the human race survive up to now without warnings? 

How did the human race survive up to now without basic healthcare?

[Alexis]

10 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:

How did the human race survive up to now without warnings? 

Well 0.1% of the population probably perished ever year. 

[beckyonsea]

Any kind souls know if it's likely to avoid Burnham On Sea? I have a hospital appointment in Bridgwater at 3 and will be using public transport. Much obliged. 

[MattStoke]

6 minutes ago, Lakigigar said:

How did the human race survive up to now without basic healthcare?

I say we do away with seat belts. Damn nanny state. 

[Paul]

24 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:

People will die with warnings or not

That genuinely makes no sense, and I think deep down you must know it. If during severe weather less people are out and about, clearly less will get hurt or killed. It's not a new or unusual concept, and frankly is just common sense, which I see you've been preaching elsewhere in the thread, so....

[Gonzolio Martinez]

Still very calm here, gently raining.

Pressure is 955mb and still falling.

[SizzlingHeat]

The sun beginning to break through the cloud in Poole. Very little wind, might go and polish off the BBQ to cook some brekkie 

[sunnijim]

31 minutes ago, Man With Beard said:

I think the Met Office have done very well for all parts, actually. They highlighted the high risk early on, but never completely committed to the storm, as was represented by the warning matrix they put out. It was on such a knife edge, they would have been foolish not to put out an amber warning, but they were clearly also right to retract warnings and not move to the red warning. A few years back, I felt the Met Office were all over the place with their warnings, but they nail them for my area of the UK 9 times out of 10 these days.

Agree,the margins were fine in the models until the 11th hour,and although it appeared obvious that the South of England would be spared the worst there was always "potential' for some of the 80mph + winds to sneak into the SW and SE of England coastlines.

Three would have been hell to pay had those sort of winds struck under yellow warnings or no warnings.

Anyone can see how close parts of England came to the worst storm since 1987.

Just an aside on this,Feb 22 saw a notable storm that folk proclaimed was the worst in 50 to 100 years.

I said at the time it was likely to repeat either in the following Winter or sooner, this every 50 years,10 yrs or whatever that might be trotted out is nonsense.

We could well see a scenario like this repeated again this winter.

Edited November 2, 2023 by sunnijim

[danm]

Calm, still morning with rain. No real wind to speak of. 

Edited November 2, 2023 by danm

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Crikey

 

[GSP]

The sun came out here about 5 mins ago and it feels like we are in the eye of the storm as the pic suggests.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by GSP

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[Ian Ballinger]

9 hours ago, Thunders said:

Yeah basically 27c

And you think our sea temperature is going to rise by 7 degrees in your lifetime?

[alexisj9]

Highest gust 78 between 8-9 in Langdon bay.

Things are sundenly quiet now, so probably all done, they shortened the weather warning till 12 so just wondering what to expect after the centre has gone through, assuming that's why things are quiet.

[Bazza118]

The low pressure is definately filling, the pressure is slowly rising, up to 958.4 now. Still calm winds and no rain at the moment.

[chapmanslade]

35 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:

How did the human race survive up to now without warnings? 

Stupid comment. Many people died in severe weather events that don't now because of warnings. Never mind those injured that didn't die.

Your contrary views are tiresome

[WinterWilf]

Some of the pictures of damage and that tornado report.

I saw a video of it and it looks like something you would see on one of those storm chasers programs from tornado alley really scary stuff.

 

[tomp456]

Pressure on the up....as is the wind speed.

The eye must have passed veery close by earlier.