Midlands Cold Spell Discussion

[we_want_snow]

Genelle showed the snow skipping Shrewsbury totally and re-appearing further south. I'm totally confused as to precipitation, where, when, how much

[Costa Del Fal]

Genelle showed the snow skipping Shrewsbury totally and re-appearing further south. I'm totally confused as to precipitation, where, when, how much

You will get it but for some reason the BBC moves precipitation in 'pulses'.

[azores92]

nobody is as bad as Shef! lol, she didnt even mention sunday though, just went to 6am

actually i was lucky enough to be able to rewind back on virgin media, a lot of attention paid on gritters, and looked a bit marginal on saturday night?

[Nick L]

You will get it but for some reason the BBC moves precipitation in 'pulses'.

That is the thing that most annoys me about the BBC forecasts. Why can't the ppn move smoothly instead of jolting and apparently skipping certain areas?

[we_want_snow]

Looking on the BBC website, it looks to have a slight gap towards the west.mid/welsh border, I dont see how it could be the rain they are forecasting. Is it???

[azores92]

That is the thing that most annoys me about the BBC forecasts. Why can't the ppn move smoothly instead of jolting and apparently skipping certain areas?

that really grinds my gears, does look a bit marginal on saturday night has to be said, perhaps a bit sleety. not getting my hopes up, and the beeb graphics for sunday dont really look like they herald a weather warning anywhere in the country.

[NorthantsSnow]

It's a weather front that is literally going to sink right the way across the UK and clear the SE. It will certainly cross your locality at some point, whatever the graphics on the BBC show. Only bit that's up in the air is intensity. I'm expecting the front to loose a lot of its oomph by the time it reaches the Midlands, but intensity will vary a lot along it. Hit and miss then for the heavier stuff.

[Supercell]

Surprisingly had a cm or so of snow today. A max temperature of 0.2c. I'm happy.

Looking forward to: a possible ice day tomorrow; some more significant snow potential saturday night in to Sunday and hoping we can get a Cheshire gap feature funneling further wintryness our way.

[we_want_snow]

The thing is, we know a band of cloud and potential precipitation is sinking south but it wont sleet/snow all the way across the band will it??? Some area's will miss, probably mine.

It's been so up/down/up/down tonight, just wait for tomorrow

[andy_leics22]

It amazes me how some people are saying that they are saying it's likely to be sleety in nature in the West Midlands.

Have the BBC not seen the charts? It's going to be around -1 when the PPN hits and the upper air is below -5 and the dam line is across the region too so how in the heck can it be sleet.

[I remember Atlantic 252]

It's a weather front that is literally going to sink right the way across the UK and clear the SE. It will certainly cross your locality at some point, whatever the graphics on the BBC show. Only bit that's up in the air is intensity. I'm expecting the front to lose a lot of its oomph by the time it reaches the Midlands, but intensity will vary a lot along it. Hit and miss then for the heavier stuff.

snow for 2 hours I think, it seems a skinny band, more of a shower really, still feel im too far south for Cheshire gap showers sunday

[Nick L]

It amazes me how some people are saying that they are saying it's likely to be sleety in nature in the West Midlands.

Have the BBC not seen the charts? It's going to be around -1 when the PPN hits and the upper air is below -5 and the dam line is across the region too so how in the heck can it be sleet.

Bizarrely the Met Office are going for heavy RAIN in the west of the west Midlands! Click on the last timeslot for Saturday on the map.

http://www.metoffice...st_weather.html

Edited December 18, 2009 by nick2702

[NorthantsSnow]

Surprisingly had a cm or so of snow today. A max temperature of 0.2c. I'm happy.

Looking forward to: a possible ice day tomorrow; some more significant snow potential saturday night in to Sunday and hoping we can get a Cheshire gap feature funneling further wintryness our way.

Literally just managed an ice day here with a top temp of 0 °C.

[Nick L]

Literally just managed an ice day here with a top temp of 0 °C.

Only just missed out on one here, maximum of 0.3c. Hopefully will get one tomorrow as we have already beaten last night's minimum.

[we_want_snow]

I really hope the metoffice aren't right in regards to rain.

Howveer, think logically. For mw in Shrewsbury, it says heavy rain as opposed to drizzle in Birmingham. Does that mean it could snow heavy in Shrewsbury and just light in Birmingham???

[cyclonic happiness]

The met office are scared to death to mention snow, it would fall out of line with their "mild bias"

[andy_leics22]

Bizarrely the Met Office are going for heavy RAIN in the west of the west Midlands! Click on the last timeslot for Saturday on the map.

http://www.metoffice...st_weather.html

I'm sorry but they have lost the plot, pure and simple.

[NorthantsSnow]

I really hope the metoffice aren't right in regards to rain.

Howveer, think logically. For mw in Shrewsbury, it says heavy rain as opposed to drizzle in Birmingham. Does that mean it could snow heavy in Shrewsbury and just light in Birmingham???

I imagine wherever the heavier precip ends up, the greater the chance of it falling as snow anyway, thinking logically.

[chapmanraven]

Well if its all going to be rain and drizzle, then I think its only fair that it misses hinckley, just as the snow did. If however its going to be snow then its more than welcome.

[Costa Del Fal]

Gritters are in action here tonight.

[A.J]

Seriously, why does anyone on here watch the BBC National & Local forecasts??.....They are designed to be watched by the masses who generally only want a rough idea of what the weather might be like the next day....They're vague at best but thats what they're designed to be!....It always gives me a chuckle seeing people taking these forecasts as gospel and getting all upset if they're not under a snow graphic!

Edited December 18, 2009 by ajpoolshark

[we_want_snow]

But have they lost the plot? What is telling them it's rain not snow. Something must and I'm scared to jinx it before Sunday morning. Surely they are great experienced forecasters. I know theyve had long range forecastissue but surely not this bad? I'm totally confused

[Supercell]

I believe the issue with intensity and longevity rather than rain. If you look at the situation we have, the surface cold is established. It's not one of those fleeting frequent instances where it's an out-of-the-blue set up in an otherwise mild period. We have the cold, it's just a case of nowcasting, and real-time radar watching to see how the ppn band develops.

[Nick L]

But have they lost the plot? What is telling them it's rain not snow. Something must and I'm scared to jinx it before Sunday morning. Surely they are great experienced forecasters. I know theyve had long range forecastissue but surely not this bad? I'm totally confused

If they genuinely thought it was going to be rain then they wouldn't have a warning out. The Met Office contradicts itself so much and so often it's frankly laughable.

[we_want_snow]

Nothing is being forecast for here from theweatheroutlook. Absolutely nothing for Salop.

Patience is the key, and luck and fortune