Summer 2022 Chat

[*Stormforce~beka*]

2 hours ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:

I think the majority were wishing away the heat, not the sunshine. It doesn't have to be hot for it to be sunny.

20-25 Celsius would be lovely on a sunny day. 

On the other hand, many areas could do with some meaningful rain.

I'll take those temps. Can actually go out for the day without roasting then!

[Methuselah]

Well then, now the rainless 'breakdown' is over with, it's a dry and sunny 26C over here just now!

[Snowyowl9]

Havn t seen the trees act like this before green leaves blown off the other day..

How does this compare with 1976 I havn t seen quite so many trees change colour this early before either except the horse chestnut in mid august  many years ago.

.UK drought: Why do the trees think it's autumn already?

"false autumn"

People you ask of an older age than 55 just can t seen to remember 1976 very well in detail..

Then they talk about 1947 instead,I don t want to hear that again wrong season..

UK drought: Why do the trees think it's autumn already?

WWW.BBC.COM

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Experts say the unusual weather has triggered a 'false autumn' as trees struggle to cope with drought.

 

[SunSean]

Cor, Met office wrong again today regarding cloud amounts but luckily on this occasion, it turned out surprisingly a nice day with good sunny spells! They had it down as being overcast all day from 11am and it actually clouded over just before 10am but been largely good since the afternoon. When will these guys get their cloud forecasts right, I remember them being really accurate in the past.

[richie3846]

8 minutes ago, SunSean said:

Cor, Met office wrong again today regarding cloud amounts but luckily on this occasion, it turned out surprisingly a nice day with good sunny spells! They had it down as being overcast all day from 11am and it actually clouded over just before 10am but been largely good since the afternoon. When will these guys get their cloud forecasts right, I remember them being really accurate in the past.

Yep they don't even update the location forecasts for a nowcast. Swindon is currently cloudy according to the met.

 

 

[damianslaw]

6 hours ago, SunSean said:

Yes definitely. I enjoy heat but its not massively important to me. I'd actually rather have a clear day of 16 degrees instead of 36 degrees and 80% cloud cover. 

September the month for you then, average max here is 16 degrees in September, expect a bit warmer in the south, so you could add at least first half of October as well for yourself.

[SunSean]

19 minutes ago, damianslaw said:

September the month for you then, average max here is 16 degrees in September, expect a bit warmer in the south, so you could add at least first half of October as well for yourself.

I meant i value sunshine over heat so i would always take a sunny day over a cloudier one regardless of what the temperature is. I love 36 degrees and sunny as well as i love 16 degrees and sunny, just love sunshine in general haha. Funnily enough, September is one of my fave months anyway because it seems to reliably be more settled and sunny plus my birthday is also in this month lol.

[I remember Atlantic 252]

2 hours ago, SunSean said:

Cor, Met office wrong again today regarding cloud amounts but luckily on this occasion, it turned out surprisingly a nice day with good sunny spells! They had it down as being overcast all day from 11am and it actually clouded over just before 10am but been largely good since the afternoon. When will these guys get their cloud forecasts right, I remember them being really accurate in the past.

Worst is on a north sea mist setup, they underestimate it badly

[damianslaw]

50 minutes ago, SunSean said:

I meant i value sunshine over heat so i would always take a sunny day over a cloudier one regardless of what the temperature is. I love 36 degrees and sunny as well as i love 16 degrees and sunny, just love sunshine in general haha. Funnily enough, September is one of my fave months anyway because it seems to reliably be more settled and sunny plus my birthday is also in this month lol.

May is the month for you then, sunshine nearly at its annual peak combined with warmth - its my favourite month.

[Stewart M]

Oh please not another heatwave this summer!  Rumours are flying around that a hot spell could happen during the BH weekend, which if it does happen is the last thing many of us need.  Pray for rain is all I can say!

Edited August 21, 2022 by Stewart M

[Weather Enthusiast91]

18 minutes ago, Stewart M said:

Oh please not another heatwave this summer!  Rumours are flying around that a hot spell could happen during the BH weekend, which if it does happen is the last thing many of us need.  Pray for rain is all I can say!

I agree. It's been a good summer this year in terms of heat and am happy that we have had a decent August for once, but I don't want any more heatwaves now until next summer. Rain would be lovely and something we all need, but otherwise I'd be happy with pleasant sunny days in the low 20s for the next couple of weeks before the season of mellow fruitfulness begins to take hold.

Edited August 21, 2022 by Weather Enthusiast91

[stainesbloke]

20 hours ago, SunSean said:

I meant i value sunshine over heat so i would always take a sunny day over a cloudier one regardless of what the temperature is. I love 36 degrees and sunny as well as i love 16 degrees and sunny, just love sunshine in general haha. Funnily enough, September is one of my fave months anyway because it seems to reliably be more settled and sunny plus my birthday is also in this month lol.

Me too, love a sunny day at any time of the year, something quite precious in the (usually grey and dreary) British climate.

After Friday evening's dramatic thunderstorms here it cooled down markedly. Yesterday was grey, cool (17°C) and very wet. This morning continued that theme, but the sun has reappeared and it’s turned into a very pleasant afternoon at 22°C currently. That’ll do me fine

[Green Future]

On 31/05/2022 at 21:59, Mapantz said:

A new thread for summer 2022..

Hello all, summer is nearly over!

[Green Future]

I have really enjoyed the UK summer this year. It makes me think Devon and Cornwall will become increasingly popular in the coming years! I recently moved to Devon, and it has been very time consuming to travel near any of  the major beaches! More hot weather / droughts incoming in future years..

[Green Future]

Interesting explanation as to why there were severe heatwaves in the UK this year!

 

Youtube link: 

 

[seb]

Just now, KTtom said:

I have also brought this point up a couple of pages back. Ive noticed this happens every year in summer, my location is the first to be hit by approaching fronts from the Atlantic, but so far, each one has delivered nothing. Appart from a drizzly day yesterday we have had no rain for weeks, yet the Mets forecast and the Fax charts constantly hinting that there is a washout around the corner only for it to fizzle out into nothing by the said day. For some reason, Met and Models are over estimating rainfall by as close as 24 hours out.

I don’t think it happens every summer. Last summer usually turned out as modelled. It’s been a problem since around October last year. No matter what’s modelled with rain coming in from the West, it ends up either disappearing completely or so weakened that predication amounts are close to zero. The further S & E you’re in the country, the worse it is.

[Mark Smithy]

39 minutes ago, mb018538 said:

Summer isn't done with certain areas just yet....

 

 

It would be quite extraordinary were summer 'done with' on August 22nd. September usually has many hot days, with 30C recorded on the majority of days in September at one time or other: 

The Tornado and Storm Research Organisation (TORRO)

WWW.TORRO.ORG.UK

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TORRO is a privately-supported research body specialising in severe convective weather in Britain and Ireland

 

We have even come within 0.1C of 30C on October 1st and with climate change I wouldn't bet against that happening at some point in the not too distant future.

[mb018538]

1 minute ago, Mark Smithy said:

 

It would be quite extraordinary were summer 'done with' on August 22nd. September usually has many hot days, with 30C recorded on the majority of days in September at one time or other: 

The Tornado and Storm Research Organisation (TORRO)

WWW.TORRO.ORG.UK

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TORRO is a privately-supported research body specialising in severe convective weather in Britain and Ireland

 

We have even come within 0.1C of 30C on October 1st and with climate change I wouldn't bet against that happening at some point in the not too distant future.

Well, meteorologically we only have 9 days of summer left! Anything after this would have to be classed as early autumn heat really. Certainly feels like we're on the way out now with sunsets at 8pm. The 7 months of waiting for me begin again! 

[Mark Smithy]

24 minutes ago, mb018538 said:

Well, meteorologically we only have 9 days of summer left! Anything after this would have to be classed as early autumn heat really. Certainly feels like we're on the way out now with sunsets at 8pm. The 7 months of waiting for me begin again! 

No I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree with this and always have (so it's not just you). I think you have let the personal cat out the bag when you write of earlier sunsets. I get that, but with respect that's a psychological, not a meteorological, observation.

September is a late summer month. It's one of the occasions when equinoxal assessment wins out (i.e. summer until Sept 21st). September is far warmer, for example, than May which is classed as meteorological summer and it's only just behind June! The highest maxima for September is 35.6C and 34.4C was reached as late as 13th September in 2016. 34C has been breached on several occasions in September. The highest May temperature by comparison is 32.8C  CET means:

May 11.1C

June 14.1C

July 16.0C

August 15.8C

September 13.6C

 

Objectively September is a much warmer month than May as borne out by the statistics.

 

p.s. try working on a mind reset about this? Look for summer signs into October and again in those early glimpses in February and March. It can work wonders for the mental health.

Edited August 22, 2022 by Mark Smithy

[mb018538]

13 minutes ago, Mark Smithy said:

No I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree with this and always have (so it's not just you). I think you have let the personal cat out the bag when you write of earlier sunsets. I get that, but with respect that's a psychological, not a meteorological, observation.

September is a late summer month. It's one of the occasions when equinoxal assessment wins out (i.e. summer until Sept 21st). September is far warmer, for example, than May which is classed as meteorological summer and it's only just behind June! The highest maxima for September is 35.6C and 34.4C was reached as late as 13th September in 2016. 34C has been breached on several occasions in September. The highest May temperature by comparison is 32.8C  CET means:

May 11.1C

June 14.1C

July 16.0C

August 15.8C

September 13.6C

 

Objectively September is a much warmer month than May as borne out by the statistics.

 

p.s. try working on a mind reset about this? Look for summer signs into October and again in those early glimpses in February and March. It can work wonders for the mental health.

May certainly isn't classed as meteorological summer...it has always been 1st June-31st August (for statistical reasons). There are other definitions like Astronomical summer (21st June-21st September) that are slightly different interpretations though.

Edited August 22, 2022 by mb018538

[Mark Smithy]

29 minutes ago, Paul said:

No it's not. Meteorological summer is June, July and August.

Ooops.

That's quite the error on my part  And no amount of digging is going to get me out of it.

However, I still think that September is a late summer month, or a month which has many summer features about it and on that level the equinox of September 21st feels about right. The more the warming continues, the more we may have to consider altering these kinds of traditional seasons.

 

 

[MP-R]

1 hour ago, Mark Smithy said:

No I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree with this and always have (so it's not just you). I think you have let the personal cat out the bag when you write of earlier sunsets. I get that, but with respect that's a psychological, not a meteorological, observation.

September is a late summer month. It's one of the occasions when equinoxal assessment wins out (i.e. summer until Sept 21st). September is far warmer, for example, than May which is classed as meteorological summer and it's only just behind June! The highest maxima for September is 35.6C and 34.4C was reached as late as 13th September in 2016. 34C has been breached on several occasions in September. The highest May temperature by comparison is 32.8C  CET means:

May 11.1C

June 14.1C

July 16.0C

August 15.8C

September 13.6C

 

Objectively September is a much warmer month than May as borne out by the statistics.

 

p.s. try working on a mind reset about this? Look for summer signs into October and again in those early glimpses in February and March. It can work wonders for the mental health.

There’s nothing personal about earlier sunsets… they just occur. September is an autumn month. Hope this clears things up for you

[Snowy L]

1 hour ago, Mark Smithy said:

Ooops.

That's quite the error on my part  And no amount of digging is going to get me out of it.

However, I still think that September is a late summer month, or a month which has many summer features about it and on that level the equinox of September 21st feels about right. The more the warming continues, the more we may have to consider altering these kinds of traditional seasons.

 

 

I'd estimate the 3 month period between June 21st - September 21st is warmer on average than June 1st - September 1st.

[Premiere Neige]

3 hours ago, Mark Smithy said:

No I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree with this and always have (so it's not just you). I think you have let the personal cat out the bag when you write of earlier sunsets. I get that, but with respect that's a psychological, not a meteorological, observation.

September is a late summer month. It's one of the occasions when equinoxal assessment wins out (i.e. summer until Sept 21st). September is far warmer, for example, than May which is classed as meteorological summer and it's only just behind June! The highest maxima for September is 35.6C and 34.4C was reached as late as 13th September in 2016. 34C has been breached on several occasions in September. The highest May temperature by comparison is 32.8C  CET means:

May 11.1C

June 14.1C

July 16.0C

August 15.8C

September 13.6C

 

Objectively September is a much warmer month than May as borne out by the statistics.

 

p.s. try working on a mind reset about this? Look for summer signs into October and again in those early glimpses in February and March. It can work wonders for the mental health.

Meteorological autumn begins on 1st September. I've seen forecasters on TV say this many times. 

[danm]

The rain moving east down south is totally breaking up and fizzling out. Not expecting anything more than a light shower or a few spots of rain now. May end up getting nothing.