Moans, ramps and banter

[CryoraptorA303]

1 hour ago, B87 said:

You know exactly what would happen if it was 8c above average at the end of April, so a day of 25c. Certain people would complain that such temperatures belong in summer, not April, while stating that average winter temperatures (9c) do belong in April!

Both belong in April and have happened an innumerable number of times.

9°C is above average in winter aside from early December and late February. The last ~20 winters have been abnormally warm bar a few exceptions in a historical context. Winter is mildening extremely quickly.

Edited April 27 by CryoraptorA303

[Wade]

 In Absence of True Seasons Cool but dry, a combination we haven't really seen since summer 2001, remember cool/cold doesn't feel cool/cold when it is summer  (if it's dry), just means that there is no sleepless nights and uncomfortable humidity.

Edited April 27 by Wade

[CryoraptorA303]

 Wade Ah yes but many people in this country want the summer of southern France or northern Italy and think anything cooler or less consistent is poor

In all seriousness, the last ~12 months have overall been very dull and wet, so I'm not going to complain much at a sunny and warm summer, however I'm not going to pretend I want to see excessively high temps for any prolonged periods of time.

Edited April 27 by CryoraptorA303

[Wade]

 CryoraptorA303 I agree, people have got to accept that the weather isn't gonna be hot and tropical all year around as this is the UK not Hawaii. People also forget we're on the east coast of the Atlantic which is as we all know very wild.

[danm]

A bit of a discrepancy between the BBC and the Met Office for Monday. The Met has a lot more rain over western and northern areas than the BBC does. A reasonable day in the S/SE, 16c with sunny spells. 
 

Edited April 27 by danm

[I remember Atlantic 252]

tomorrow too, FAX looks way out compared to bbc, GFS and UK met, expecting it to be wrong and heavy rain all day, looks like a decent day on fax

[danm]

 I remember Atlantic 252 the Met and BBC show the rain clearing away north and east by the afternoon. 

[Addicks Fan 1981]

 danm I am siding with BBC on this to be honest.  In actual fact since BBC got rid of the met office as provider the forecasts in my books have been better.    

[I remember Atlantic 252]

FAX for Monday bit of a downgrade? could be wet day, no trough on yesterdays

[SunnyG]

 Addicks Fan 1981 I agree. They are always less dramatic too.

In other news, it's raining now. What a shock.

 I remember Atlantic 252 If it's a downgrade, it's probably gonna happen...

[SunnyG]

 Wade No one's asking for it to be like Spain, but this is disgusting weather for springtime.

[In Absence of True Seasons]

 CryoraptorA303 @Wade Not at all. Southern France has weeks and weeks on end of 25-35c dry weather in summer, which is obviously unrealistic for the UK. 

A dislike for cool weather from April to Sept =/= wanting boiling hot med conditions.  

I just don't want a "cooler than average" summer because our average *is* cool for summer, especially as a benchmark globally. If it was cool, sunny and dry that wouldn't be as bad but it'd likely be cool, overcast and wet because of our geographic proximity. I can't really recall a properly cool, dry and sunny summer month in recent history tbh. 

[Wade]

 SunnyG It can't be perfect every year can it, no point in moaning because the weather is uncontrollable (thankfully). Eventually we'll get a spring 2020, a summer 2018 etc. Hang in there. 

[Wade]

 In Absence of True Seasons "I can't recall a properly dry, cool and sunny summer" About time we got one eh lol but as I said to Sunny, weather isn't controllable so nature will be nature whether we like it or not.

[CryoraptorA303]

It hasn't happened recently but there are quite a few examples of sunny, dry but cool summers. There's a few in the 60s, 70s and 80s and 1913 is a notorious one.

[TwisterGirl81]

 Wade you’ve just had 2 springs which have felt a lot cooler than average due to lack of sun, please let us enjoy some sun and heat before we all go stir crazy.

I can’t wait to feel sunny warm 22c+ touching my skin…I’ve been in a jacket and scarf more times than I’d like this spring 

[Wade]

 TwisterGirl81 And you've had two springs or more that have been decent in terms of sun and felt warm. I love the sun myself but I'm just stating the weather can't be pitch perfect 24/7. We had a long run of drier and sunny springs before this spring and last year so we were bound to get a few poor springs on the trot, if the weather was the same constantly, we wouldn't be here would we

[TwisterGirl81]

 Wade I wish we did have consistent springs and summers, the jet has been so far south last spring and this spring that we have effectively been having springs I imagine northern Scotland and the Faroe Islands get…it just sucks as I wouldn’t have minded had it been like that in winter then maybe we’d have had snow but these patterns always emerge at the wrong time to actually benefit from with seasonal weather….hopefully the jet sods off back north not to be seen again until late autumn

[Wade]

 TwisterGirl81 I know, it is irritating but that's life, one year we'll get a snowy winter and a spring like spring. Fingers crossed 

[Snowy L]

8C and overcast. May as well be December. How has this happened 2 springs in a row. Tragic.

[marky810]

So tomorrow could be the last day of this cold weather. The last 13 days have been 5-9c below average so please can the next 13 be 5-9c above!

[Wade]

 Snowy L Hardly tragic mate is it, tragic would be your family getting killed in a road accident. We've had numerous decent springs on the trot so I think a number of crap springs on the trot was bound to occur.

[markyo]

 marky810 Thankfully thats not going to happen!

 Snowy L Tragic?....not really the right word i suspect

[Snowy L]

 Wade I get your point for the wider world, but tragic is obviously being used in the context of weather as this is a weather forum. And strictly speaking of weather the perfect one word description of this weather in late April is tragic.

[danm]

Well one positive is this wretched cold is going to disappear on Monday. Mid to high teens, possibly low 20’s in some favoured eastern spots coming up this week. The downside is that there will still be rain around, but in any sunshine it will feel much warmer.